Oppositionless

Holy Shit, I'm Terrified of Death

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On 4/13/2025 at 9:04 PM, Oppositionless said:

I've been doing Survival, not Spitituality. My entire journey up until this point has been to live forever. That's all I've ever wanted , to be eternally. Now I need to deconstruct that by dying. I must die. I absolutely must die . Pure nothingness . My entire life up until this point has been pure ego, pure selfishness, and pure delusion. I absolutely must die asap.

 

this is my dilemma 

a lifetime of misery 

Or

this me dies and I actually start living in a way that isn't deluded .

I need to find a way out of this cycle .

Or everything is exactly the way it should be and only the conditioned character believes it to be otherwise 🤷 

❤️ 


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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The book I'm reading ATM is good on death (materialism is baloney)...its essential stance is that the brain moderates, modulates and manages the flow of consciousness, it doesn't generate or create it.

Consciousness flows through the brain and manifests as different perceptions kind of like how light passes through a prism and manifests as different colours. 

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The light is not created by the prism, nor is consciousness created by the brain.

The book describes how, in neuroscience, a powerful experience isn't always correlated proportionally with an increase in neural network activation, but a decrease in neural activity. 

This observation suggests that the brain is more like a radio tuning out certain frequencies so that it can tune into and focus on one radio channel and receive the audio. Turning off the radio doesn't result in the death of the radio waves. In the same way, killing the brain doesn't result in the death of consciousness (which is of course what you actually are). 

The brain seems to localise the flow of consciousness (that is so powerful that it doesn't need a source or generator). 

According to some of these findings, the brain seems to tune out and mutes a significant portion of consciousness which flows from nowhere to itself. Like the brain is a valve that is designed to tighten and restrict the flow of water. If the valve were to break off it wouldn't result in a decrease of water flow, it would result in a completely unrestricted powerful release of the entire water pressure in a massive expansion of water flow. Similarly when the brain dies, it is theorised that consciousness expands exponentially and becomes unlimited as It was only being limited by the brain to localise a coherent perceptual experience and world.

Saying you die when the brain ceases to exist, I think, could also be compared to saying that a knot dies when it is unraveled. Really, a knot is only a particular state of the true underlying substance: rope. 

You cannot die by being unraveled because you are the rope itself. There is nothing to fear and death is an illusion. In other words, chill homes, your immortal.

 

 

(Side note: the above insights are dualistic and I don't think they are the actual ultimate structure of reality as the brains physicality also eventually comes into question.)

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This is just hilarious, you should be scared of a immortal life if anything. 

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How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being?

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23 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

If you do 5meo until a breakthrough is something normal for you, the structure of your mind, the energetic fields that make your mind be as it is, is going to change. 

Good. 

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3 hours ago, integral said:

This is just hilarious, you should be scared of a immortal life if anything. 

I'm also, recently, afraid Christianity is true. The resurrection of Jesus may have actually happened and that freaks me out. Don't wanna go to hell when I die.

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17 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

I'm also, recently, afraid Christianity is true. The resurrection of Jesus may have actually happened and that freaks me out. Don't wanna go to hell when I die.

Actually, now that you word it like that...yeah everything I say could be wrong, everything Leo says could be wrong, all of mysticism and spirituality might be wrong, consciousness work and enlightenment may be a load of dung. And you could go to Christian hell. 

Orrrrrrr you could trust the small sense inside you that tells you that people like Leo and hundreds of other teachers dedicate their entire lives to finding truth. 

So the question is, which one seems more realistic.  Believe on jesus and you will be saved, or move towards awakening and increase in consciousness. 

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4 hours ago, Aaron p said:

Actually, now that you word it like that...yeah everything I say could be wrong, everything Leo says could be wrong, all of mysticism and spirituality might be wrong, consciousness work and enlightenment may be a load of dung. And you could go to Christian hell. 

Orrrrrrr you could trust the small sense inside you that tells you that people like Leo and hundreds of other teachers dedicate their entire lives to finding truth. 

So the question is, which one seems more realistic.  Believe on jesus and you will be saved, or move towards awakening and increase in consciousness. 

Maybe it's just my upbringing, I didn't think about Hell much after I left the church or even while I was in it, but it's been coming up seemingly out of nowhere lately.

Yes more realistic is what I can see and interact with, consciousness. 

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On 4/15/2025 at 0:19 PM, Aaron p said:

The book I'm reading ATM is good on death (materialism is baloney)...its essential stance is that the brain moderates, modulates and manages the flow of consciousness, it doesn't generate or create it.

Consciousness flows through the brain and manifests as different perceptions kind of like how light passes through a prism and manifests as different colours. 

Screenshot_2025-04-15-17-59-05-34_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

The light is not created by the prism, nor is consciousness created by the brain.

The book describes how, in neuroscience, a powerful experience isn't always correlated proportionally with an increase in neural network activation, but a decrease in neural activity. 

This observation suggests that the brain is more like a radio tuning out certain frequencies so that it can tune into and focus on one radio channel and receive the audio. Turning off the radio doesn't result in the death of the radio waves. In the same way, killing the brain doesn't result in the death of consciousness (which is of course what you actually are). 

The brain seems to localise the flow of consciousness (that is so powerful that it doesn't need a source or generator). 

According to some of these findings, the brain seems to tune out and mutes a significant portion of consciousness which flows from nowhere to itself. Like the brain is a valve that is designed to tighten and restrict the flow of water. If the valve were to break off it wouldn't result in a decrease of water flow, it would result in a completely unrestricted powerful release of the entire water pressure in a massive expansion of water flow. Similarly when the brain dies, it is theorised that consciousness expands exponentially and becomes unlimited as It was only being limited by the brain to localise a coherent perceptual experience and world.

Saying you die when the brain ceases to exist, I think, could also be compared to saying that a knot dies when it is unraveled. Really, a knot is only a particular state of the true underlying substance: rope. 

You cannot die by being unraveled because you are the rope itself. There is nothing to fear and death is an illusion. In other words, chill homes, your immortal.

 

 

(Side note: the above insights are dualistic and I don't think they are the actual ultimate structure of reality as the brains physicality also eventually comes into question.)

@Breakingthewall

Do you agree guys with Leo that Death is Infinite Love? Stay conscious forever? Be in bliss ?

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4 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

Do you agree guys with Leo that Death is Infinite Love? Stay conscious forever? Be in bliss ?

Only one possibility is possible: absolute being is, just as it is now

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6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Only one possibility is possible: absolute being is, just as it is now

My neo-advitan intrusive thoughts are attacking me!!


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(but also, Linktree @ joy_yimpa ;-)

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27 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

My neo-advitan intrusive thoughts are attacking me!!

Mines too, are telling me: conciousness is a mental construction 

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16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Mines too, are telling me: conciousness is a mental construction 

How could consciousness (mind) be a construction of mind?

so you think when you die that's it? Just the absolute without consciousness? How do you deal with that? Does it scare you? I got into spirituality because I'm afraid . 

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19 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

How could consciousness (mind) be a construction of mind?

 Consciousness means perception. Without perception, there is no consciousness. Perception implies a perceiving subject and a perceived object. If you dissolve this duality, all that remains is the fluid of reality. Consciousness has no meaning; it means nothing. Neither does mind. The mind creates images or dreams them up. But the fact that you believe there are images is a mental construct. If you eliminate any construct, all that remains is the fluid of reality. Nothing can be defined, because any definition implies its opposite. Absolute reality has no opposite.

29 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

you think when you die that's it? Just the absolute without consciousness?

when you die the movement will continue to happen; it's impossible for it to stop, because if it exists now, it means there's the potential for it to be so. Therefore, if it stops, it will start moving again, which means it will never have stopped. It's impossible. The form it will take is impossible to know, but its essence is possible to know. It's the very essence of current reality. There is no other. It's being, what you are, what reality is. This reality has no beginning or end. It doesn't really move. It seems to move, but it's not going anywhere. It flows on itself because it has no limits.

The ultimate nature of reality is the absence of limits. That's what we are. And its manifestation is, to a certain extent, irrelevant because, deep down, it's always the same: the absence of limits appearing to be something. It's inevitable.

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4 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

@Breakingthewall

Do you agree guys with Leo that Death is Infinite Love? Stay conscious forever? Be in bliss ?

I am nowhere near enlightened or god realised (even though this all seems to come very naturally to me and I have been studying theology from the age of like 12 lol). But yeah I think I won't know for a while but all reports I've heard (which aren't too many) suggest consciousness expands and blows up upon death. Although don't get me wrong I intuitively sense that death feels 100% real. The degree to which the ego feels real is the degree to which death will feel real...so if you feel like a real person right now, death will still feel real. 

It's almost like there is a second being that is still literally you but it's separate, you essentially give your entire life to this second, way bigger "you" and it continues to live. I *think* ask me again in 20 years I'll have a more accurate answer lol.

When death does come just know that it isn't actually bad...and as soon as It happens, theres nobody there for it to be bad for...plus you'll get the best sleep your life. It'll be good.

 

Ps: also keep in mind that we are playing with metaphysical Lego right now. What Leo has done is built a metaphysical skyscraper. It kinda feels like we have no idea what we're actually talking about. At all. But it's ok, cuz we need to progress at our own rate. This stuff is all very theoretical, really we can't know without doing some stuff what Leo did like doing lots of trips and mega contemplation and stuff...

Leo:

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Us:

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On 4/14/2025 at 7:24 AM, Princess Arabia said:

This is like saying "holy shit, I'm terrified of sleep". No one knows they're asleep, just as no one will know they're dead. The delusion is you thinking there's a you to die.

Totally.

It's an interesting perceptual illusion, in that, there's no memory of death (or you'd already be dead), and there's no future experience of death (no one experiences the future), which just leaves you "here", which is always deathless by virtue of existing. The deathless can't know death, or it would be limited by it.

Memory only appears to project itself into the future, but it all really just happens now. Like a thought might say "I slept before, therefore I will sleep in the future", but it actually happens in the present which is all there actually is, lol. Memory infers and then projects into the future, and that's really where all your knowledge "comes from".


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1 hour ago, Osaid said:

Totally.

It's an interesting perceptual illusion, in that, there's no memory of death (or you'd already be dead), and there's no future experience of death (no one experiences the future), which just leaves you "here", which is always deathless by virtue of existing. The deathless can't know death, or it would be limited by it.

Memory only appears to project itself into the future, but it all really just happens now. Like a thought might say "I slept before, therefore I will sleep in the future", but it actually happens in the present which is all there actually is, lol. Memory infers and then projects into the future, and that's really where all your knowledge "comes from".

But she's also pointing out that even the individual respectively experiencing the so-called "now", is also delusion.......big difference  😳 

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“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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22 hours ago, Osaid said:

Totally.

It's an interesting perceptual illusion, in that, there's no memory of death (or you'd already be dead), and there's no future experience of death (no one experiences the future), which just leaves you "here", which is always deathless by virtue of existing. The deathless can't know death, or it would be limited by it.

Memory only appears to project itself into the future, but it all really just happens now. Like a thought might say "I slept before, therefore I will sleep in the future", but it actually happens in the present which is all there actually is, lol. Memory infers and then projects into the future, and that's really where all your knowledge "comes from".

I'm more afraid of being memory wiped than anything else . That just doesn't sound fun. When I'm dead I don't care no more.

I think fear of death is really just a sign that something is wrong with the way I'm living.

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1 hour ago, Oppositionless said:

I'm more afraid of being memory wiped than anything else . That just doesn't sound fun. When I'm dead I don't care no more.

I think fear of death is really just a sign that something is wrong with the way I'm living.

You're afraid of disappearing, and those who say otherwise are lying. You're attached to your human identity like everyone else. The only way to let go of that is to open yourself to your true essence, and that's not easy; it's a mystery, and no one can do it for you. 99 percent of those who say they've done it have traded one mental construct for another, and that belief keeps them stable

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