Insights on insanity.

[Ishanga]

Insanity is this Thread and the comments below, which is how most Threads are on this forum end, its little wars, ego wars, arguing via a concrete POV or Identity, and as well thinking any of this means anything, it doesn't really, it will be forgotten in a day, so this here is an example of insanity.  People making up their own definitions of words, even to the point of arguing over who's logic is more logical lol...

This is why I posted a Thread on why this place is not so High on the Consciousness scale, meant mostly for newbies to be fore warned, there really is no truth here to find, Truth is not found in words, more so in silence, in peace, in knowing within Yourself what is Truth and not Truth without it having to be explained or shared with words!

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[Someone here]

 

15 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Your point about logic being limited is valid. Yet as a critism for my previous comments on God it has no impact. 

no it has .look what you said :

7 hours ago, Salvijus said:

Truth of reality/God = normal 

Deviation from reality/God = abnormal. 

God is abnormal . Look around you .is any of this stuff normal ? Its only normal because you are used to it .but if you actually want to understand it you can not . Just like reading 10000 astronomy books explaining what the sun is won't move you an inch in actually understanding it . You think you know what the sun is ? Lol.

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[Salvijus]

10 minutes ago, Someone here said:

God is abnormal . Look around you .is any of this stuff normal ? Its only normal because you are used to it .but if you actually want to understand it you can not . Just like reading 10000 astronomy books explaining what the sun is won't move you an inch in actually understanding it . You think you know what the sun is ? Lol.

God cannot be understood. That's the new normal. Whatever God is. It becomes the new normal. Reality cannot be anything else but normal because that's just what is. If reality is completely upside down, then upside down becomes the way things are. And the way things are, is the standard for what we consider normal. Deviation from the natural way things are is what we consider abnormal. 

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[Salvijus]

7 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Insanity is this Thread and the comments below, which is how most Threads are on this forum end, its little wars, ego wars, arguing via a concrete POV or Identity, and as well thinking any of this means anything, it doesn't really, it will be forgotten in a day, so this here is an example of insanity.  People making up their own definitions of words, even to the point of arguing over who's logic is more logical lol...

Now you're one of us. Ggwp. 

[Breakingthewall]

20 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Insanity is this Thread and the comments below, which is how most Threads are on this forum end, its little wars, ego wars, arguing via a concrete POV or Identity, and as well thinking any of this means anything, it doesn't really, it will be forgotten in a day, so this here is an example of insanity.  People making up their own definitions of words, even to the point of arguing over who's logic is more logical lol...

This is why I posted a Thread on why this place is not so High on the Consciousness scale, meant mostly for newbies to be fore warned, there really is no truth here to find, Truth is not found in words, more so in silence, in peace, in knowing within Yourself what is Truth and not Truth without it having to be explained or shared with words!

Sure, but your vibration is like sad, angry, tired, not creative, gaslighter, not fresh. Maybe this is enlightenment? Could be

[Breakingthewall]

45 minutes ago, Judy2 said:

@Breakingthewall I don't understand the example you give, but I like this definition:

I was just trying to point out the need to further define insanity and brainstormed some suggestions, so by no means am I saying that the definition I came up with is the right or absolute one.  What I said about insanity was based on a cultural/historical framework, but what you're saying seems logical and more universal than what I came up with yesterday.

I meant that many behaviours seems insanity, for example, going into a sword fight naked in ancient Gaul in winter seems like an adequate definition of insanity, but it was normal at the time. However, thinking that the CIA is spying on your every move and that your coworkers are undercover agents plotting to kill you when you're working at McDonald's is insanity. What exactly is the difference? It's not easy to define.

[Someone here]

26 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

God cannot be understood. That's the new normal. Whatever God is. It becomes the new normal. Reality cannot be anything else but normal because that's just what is. If reality is completely upside down, then upside down becomes the way things are. And the way things are, is the standard for what we consider normal. Deviation from the natural way things are is what we consider abnormal. 

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again who says so ? Logic ? You're using linear logic and I'm telling you for 2 hours straight that logic isn't absolute but contingent.   Otherwise why me and you disagree on it ? If it was as clear as day aka absolutely true we would have to agree on it .but since we don't agree on it then it's just one side of the coin .I acknowledge both sides of the coin .you think the coin has only one side. 

 

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

again who says so ? Logic ? You're using linear logic and I'm telling you for 2 hours straight that logic isn't absolute but contingent.   Otherwise why me and you disagree on it ? If it was as clear as day aka absolutely true we would have to agree on it .but since we don't agree on it then it's just one side of the coin .I acknowledge both sides of the coin .you think the coin has only one side. 

 

Yes, logic. If we are going to justify words somehow, then we are going to use logic and rational to do so. And the word "normal" for God is the only word that makes sense. Rationality is a tool with which we measure our alignment with the truth. There is no other logic out there. The logic I'm using is the only one that exists. For you to justify the phrase "god is insane" requires logic aswell. And you're using the same principles of logic I'm using. It's just that my position makes no sense. Simple. 

Edited April 14 by Salvijus

[Schizophonia]

The world is insane by nature, nothing makes sense. 

Insanity is a keyword for anxiety; When the ego plays at not wanting to be aware of certain things while tending to be.

[Someone here]

@Salvijus ur adorable. 

[Salvijus]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

@Salvijus ur adorable. 

🫶

[Someone here]

32 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

nothing makes sense

Welcome to godhood .

[Salvijus]

@Someone here

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Welcome to godhood .

There is no other definition of sense but God. 

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[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

@Someone here

There is no other definition of sense but God. 

F off . You have no clue what you're blabbering about . Go smoke some salvia or go fight in Gaza and come back blabbering about sanity .

This dream you are in is like a house of cards..yet all of us treat it like its not made of cards but made of concrete. The dream is flowing extremely gracefully right now. The fact that you can sanely sit here and read this message takes beyond infinite amount of grace. All of your billions of cells working perfectly together.. Your memories are perfectly in sync with each other and with form. All of this is extremely malleable. You're a nano second away from all of that grace just crashing and chaotically imploding on itself. Its a house of cards.. not concrete. And psychotic people have unfortunately experienced this the hard way. 

[Salvijus]

@Someone here if truth is insanity, then what is sanity according to you? Ignorance? Lol. Listen to your logic. 

[Someone here]

@Salvijus 

7 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

@Someone here if truth is insanity, then what is sanity according to you? Ignorance? Lol. Listen to your logic. 

Go talk to mentally ill peopld .so-called mental diseases are potentially there in how the human mind works. You can observe yourself hearing voices in your head.. Talking to yourself.. Having opposing views (multiple personalities) etc.  Yet it's just mild.  So imo.. The symptoms of mental illness are potentially there in every human.. It's just in their case(  crazy people) they reach a point where they are unable to control it anymore.. Whereas for the majority of people they are able to fake that they are a "person" with a linear personality. Sanity is a fake front a house of cards a mask you wear to cover your inner absolute madness. 

 

[Salvijus]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Salvijus 

Go talk to mentally ill peopld .so-called mental diseases are potentially there in how the human mind works. You can observe yourself hearing voices in your head.. Talking to yourself.. Having opposing views (multiple personalities) etc.  Yet it's just mild.  So imo.. The symptoms of mental illness are potentially there in every human.. It's just in their case(  crazy people) they reach a point where they are unable to control it anymore.. Whereas for the majority of people they are able to fake that they are a "person" with a linear personality. Sanity is a fake front a house of cards a mask you wear to cover your inner absolute madness. 

 

If God's will is insanity to you. Then what is sanity to you? Give me a clear answer. What's the opposite of God's will then that you consider sanity? 

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[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Salvijus said:

Then what is sanity to you? Give me a clear answer. 

@Salvijus sanity vs insanity is relative distinction. However..There is Absolute Insanity that encompasses both . Sanity is a temporary defence mechanism or a trick you're using to try to escape from Insanity. But there is no escape. hate to break it to you .

 

BTW thanks for the conversation I'm not gonna continue or I'm going to say things that will shatter your mind forever. 

[Salvijus]

49 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Salvijus sanity vs insanity is relative distinction. However..There is Absolute Insanity that encompasses both .

Sanity is a temporary defence mechanism or a trick you're using to try to escape from Insanity. But there is no escape. hate to break it to you .

BTW thanks for the conversation I'm not gonna continue or I'm going to say things that will shatter your mind forever. 

 

That thing you call absolute insanity is actually called normality. Because the way God created things is our standpoint for what we call normal. And deviation from truth is what we call abnormal. Besides from the Absolute point of view reality is all things at once, to the point where no label can be given on it anymore. So such thing as absolute insanity doesn't even exist. 

But good debate anyways. Ggwp. 

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[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, but your vibration is like sad, angry, tired, not creative, gaslighter, not fresh. Maybe this is enlightenment? Could be

Yes a bit of Sadness and Tiredness, I've had a taste of Enlightenment for sure, that has changed me forever but its not a permanent state Yet,  The Sadness and Tiredness comes from my Human side, its reactive, I live in a society where most are very unconscious and I see their unconscious actions taking place daily, so to secure Enlightenment for sure I would need to go to a more secure environment where this sort of shit is not happening on a daily basis.  Even Sadhguru said when it first happened to him, he had sadness or tears in his eyes when he could see the living potential in everyone very easily but no one was living it or realizing it, so that is sad...the tiredness comes from seeing nothing changing, even here which is supposed to be a higher conscious place but isn't!