How to avoid Massage Therapists talking about philosophy

[OBEler]

In my country they think they know it all. They talk about all kind of philosophy stuff on low level but think they are wise. They think they explain you the word, assume that you are ignorant.

For me it's hard to hear but I don't want to fall into an discussion with them. They talk during a massage constantly about all kind of stuff, mostly never checked any facts. On the one hand they have low IQ and low cognitive development, on the other hand they have a lot of confidence so I just hear all kind of bias and ignorant statements. It's unbearable.

Do you have also such massage therapists and how do you handle such an situation?

Next time I try to tell him in a nice way  that I cannot handle this low level talking and just want a quiet massage. 

Edited Friday at 05:55 PM by OBEler

[Santiago Ram]

I deal with that but with my barbers.

Ask questions to make them contradict themselves like the Socratic Method.

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For example:

If youve never seen a three headed unicorn that dominates the élites, would you believe in It?

No.

So why do you keep talking about ghosts youve never seen? Just cut my hair thanks.

 

 

Edited Friday at 05:55 PM by Santiago Ram

[OBEler]

@Santiago Ram good idea.

In my situation I think I will tell straight into his face what's the problem. Because he also talks about all kind of things, not only philosophical.

Edited Friday at 06:08 PM by OBEler

[Someone here]

It's kinda like the taxi driver who keeps rambling with you while driving you to your destination.  It can be very annoying especially if you have social anxiety or don't like to talk to strangers. The solution is counterintuitive..Try to annoy them instead of them annoying you .keep talking about everything under the sun until they beg you to shut up .and in that way you've developed some socialization skills as a bonus .

[OBEler]

@Someone here I don't have social anxiety and I don't want to waste my energy to talk to someone about anything just that he stops.

But I will let that sink in. It's counterintuitive and could work. But still dishonest. I don't like to pretend.

Edited Friday at 06:32 PM by OBEler

[OBEler]

@Leo GuraHow do you handle such an situation if someone wants you to explain the word to you, indirectly showing you that you are ignorant? In a public place like a massage or hair cut?

[Davino]

Lmao, get a good massagist. Don't be cheap, I pay a decent amount.

[UnbornTao]

You can simply tell them you'd rather have some quiet time, or at least make it count: ask them good questions and the chatting could be more fruitful and enjoyable for both.

Edited Saturday at 12:28 AM by UnbornTao

[ExploringReality]

Just remain silent, don't respond, if they keep talking, ask them to respectfully be quiet. Or just share your thoughts using few words that you don't waste your time on spiritual nonsense and predictable Philosophical new age mumbo jumbo. 

[aurum]

@OBEler just tell them what you want. If they don't listen, find a new therapist. 

[Leo Gura]

Wear earbuds and tell them you're just going to listen to music.

Edited Friday at 10:19 PM by Leo Gura

[LastThursday]

This must be a German phenomenon, nothing like that in the UK. However, just wear headphones and play your own music, let them concentrate on the massage. Especially, if you're paying them.

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@Leo Gura snap!

Edited Friday at 10:19 PM by LastThursday

[OBEler]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Wear earbuds and tell them you're just going to listen to music.

Genius idea, this should work.

But as a german I can't be sneaky, I will tell him straight into his face what's the problem. That's good for both sides.

But for the future I will use then earbuds after this is spoken out.

Edited Friday at 11:12 PM by OBEler

[Jannes]

I find deeply deluted people fascinating. I always try to understanding how their mind bended that way. But I guess you somewhat connect to your massage therapist because of the touch which might take away some healthy distance.

[Aaron p]

20 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Genius idea, this should work.

But as a german I can't be sneaky, I will tell him straight into his face what's the problem. That's good for both sides.

But for the future I will use then earbuds after this is spoken out.

Also possibly a good opportunity to develop the skill of firmness but not harshness. Pressing without pushing. 

Diplomatic combination between authenticity and empathetic insight. Many dumbasses exist, hearing them attempting to teach their moronicisism then to you can be extra infuriating. I'm trying to become more patient with people these days, recognising that sometimes they say these things because they're actually trying to make people feel happier or better...and sure maybe they're completely inaccurate, but their effort is better than what some make (none).

I'm realising how little self control I have when my buttons are pushed in life lol. Trying to develop my own skill of tolerance...I think I don't accept others sometimes and their inaccuracies, because subconsciously and historically I struggle to accept myself and my own inaccuracies 

[Leo Gura]

@OBEler Tell them the truth: you'd rather listen to an Actualized.org lecture

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura  absolutely!!! Leo you are a modern sage. You are like a modern Heraclitis and sri nissargadahta and all the historical figures wrapped up into a ball of light.

[Yimpa]

Learn to touch yourself better than any massage therapist on the planet.

[Hojo]

Put leo on speaker the God realization video

[AION]

Just communicate it to him and if he doesn’t change, change your massage therapist. Headphones seems so cold hearted.