Judy2

Which meditation technique would you recommend to a total beginner?

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13 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

If you are able to incrementally increase your sessions all the way up to 60-90 minutes without being in severe mental anguish during the practice, that alone means you're doing something right. But yes, as long as you try to do the practice, simply sitting there for the time you chose is the only criteria. Setting a timer removes the expectation to "perform" or to expect a certain outcome. You just sit there and do the thing and when you're done you're done. If you become better over time, sitting there will become more fun, and if you get just a little better, that means you can get a lot better if you keep going. Delete from your mind the notion that "you can be sitting in meditation but you're not really meditating". This is the pinnacle of mental self-sabotage.

 

13 hours ago, ExploringReality said:

@Judy2

Having a strong and motivating desire for meditation is required. What your motivation is, is different for everyone, but ask yourself why are you meditating? Don't rationalize to yourself that "there is no ego",  "there is no outcome" and such things that our minds fabricate of what enlightenment is, what meditation is and what it's for. 

Set the intention to meditate first, then ask yourself why in the biggest picture am I meditating? Feel yourself. Bring your attention solely in the present moment. When that timer kicks in, you feel all your body sensations and mental ongoings as it's happening, allow everything to remain as it is without trying to control wether your mediating right or if it's just a big waste of time. Your doing really good, don't give up, you'll find the answers you need within reflected outwards.

Okay i think i got it now:)

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Thanks everyone:)

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@Judy2 you gotta focus on things that work for you by trial and error

You’ll naturally like more and benefit more from some of these practises than others, no one is good at all of them

For example, I can’t focus on my breath because it causes issues, I have an easier time focussing on nothingness

It’s all personal preference


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There seems to be a contradiction between the idea of simply observing what arises in awareness and the suggestion to fully savor or feel everything within one's experience. Could someone clarify this distinction? Is one approach preferable over the other, or are both practices recommended?

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The do nothing technique is probably simplest. Only thing to keep in awareness while doing do nothing is not too resist anything, including resistance. One hard rule, keep the body still

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On 2025-04-13 at 2:25 AM, AJBrew said:

There seems to be a contradiction between the idea of simply observing what arises in awareness and the suggestion to fully savor or feel everything within one's experience. Could someone clarify this distinction? Is one approach preferable over the other, or are both practices recommended?

It's a combination of both. You first become aware of the content of the mind and the feelings behind it and then you fully allow yourself to experience that phenomena without any resistance to it. 

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Imagine for a moment, dear friends, that you are Conciousness, and that you have only this one awareness - that you are at peace, and that you are. 

 

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If you ever get lost and don't know what your trying to focus on in general in your path towards higher consciousness, just remind yourself that this is a complete lie and that you do know what to focus on, youve always known, it is always here, it is always obvious...even though the practises are required to bring it into actuality. But don't just drift into some not knowing void of epistemic greyness, god is real and incredibly fucking powerful.

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@AJBrew ^_ ^


Imagine for a moment, dear friends, that you are Conciousness, and that you have only this one awareness - that you are at peace, and that you are. 

 

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On 4/11/2025 at 0:36 PM, gettoefl said:

First mediation should see a change in one's whole lifestyle. Getting up before one's fellow man is key. And thus getting to bed suitably. Meditation is taking charge of one's whole existence. This is my world and I am going to stage manage it meticulously from minute one to minute back to sleep. I know that I create every single person and situation I see. If I do so mindlessly, my life is chaos and drowning. If I do so in full command of myself, I bring vision and passion and grace and power. Meditation is my day prep to get body mind in sync to bring about my highest unfolding. Beauty is I need do nothing. And the truth is, I can do nothing. All I need to is sit in willingness. And align with the higher me. I am powerless, it is unlimited. I know nothing, it controls every molecule. My job is to switch me off. When stuff arises, I let it come and let it pass. It is trying to lead me off track. I pay attention and I take heed to all that happens and I don't concern myself or involve myself. I am readying myself for the day at hand. This is my recharge time even more important than my sleep and my food. I am aligning myself with the real me, the one who sees through eyes of innocence and wisdom. I need have no plans or worries. Everything is stacked in my favor if I just trust every moment and every situation. People around me are good not bad. When I see their goodness, I automatically see my own. Meditation is the time spent preparing me to greet and welcome everything as the perfect unfolding of divine loveliness. All is wonderful today. 

OK, that left an impression on me. Nice post.

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Leo's mindfulness meditation video is great. I started out with focusing on the breath but just the concept of it seems so boring and unappealing. I stuck with mindfulness meditation with labeling for a long time because it is fairly simple and more interesting to me.  

edit: I just saw you asked for tips and tricks and what your goals/expectations should be. 

#1 When you are meditating you want to forget what your goals are whatever they are.  Get rid of any ideas of getting any benefit from meditation and just do it for no reason. This will give you better results because your mind will come up with many ideas on how to reach your goal which will distract your from actually meditating.

#2 You can expect to get a higher sensory/emotional clarity, notice more things, lower stress, see things from different points of view more easily.

#3 A good goal to have would be just to do 20 minutes every day at the same time for 30 days. See if you notice anything different. 

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Have any of you tried this, and if so, what was it like for you?

 

i don't do a full hour, only about 20-30 minutes. it feels like my body is falling asleep while my mind is still awake... is that what a meditative state should be like? my thoughts are still wandering and random images appear, but it's nothing profound in content, only in terms of the unfamiliar structure of this state. sometimes i forget where i am. it's a bit like lucid dreaming or astral projection.

there's some fearful energy and whenever i remember that i temporarily forgot where i am or travelled too far away in my mind, i am scared someone might appear in this weirdly non-localised, undefined space and startle me....even though i'm sat alone in my room. so i usuallly open my eyes every five minutes or so, until i close them again.

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10 minutes ago, Judy2 said:

 

Have any of you tried this, and if so, what was it like for you?

 

i don't do a full hour, only about 20-30 minutes. it feels like my body is falling asleep while my mind is still awake... is that what a meditative state should be like? my thoughts are still wandering and random images appear, but it's nothing profound in content, only in terms of the unfamiliar structure of this state. sometimes i forget where i am. it's a bit like lucid dreaming or astral projection.

there's some fearful energy and whenever i remember that i temporarily forgot where i am or travelled too far away in my mind, i am scared someone might appear in this weirdly non-localised, undefined space and startle me....even though i'm sat alone in my room. so i usuallly open my eyes every five minutes or so, until i close them again.

I have done this several times but it has been probably a year or more since I did it. It was a much different experience for me than doing mindfulness meditation for an hour. There are times where I would feel waves of emotions feeling like they wanted to throw me off my seat. I found some coping mechanisms that helped like counting my breaths when I needed some relief. Usually at the end I felt refreshed like I was cleaned out from the inside. Maybe I will try it again today and see how it goes.

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I tried strong determination sitting just now. I didn’t watch the video you shared past the first couple minutes but what I did is just make sure I move as little as I can. I set a timer instead of an alarm because I wanted to be able to sit longer without being distracted if I want to. I stopped after 1.5 hours. For me I felt heightened emotional sensations in my heart then in my belly fairly early on. I started dosing off after a while then being jolted back awake when I realized that was happening. During 2 daydreams that I had there would be a phrase one character says to another like “have you woken up yet” and he is holding someone that is asleep but moving trying to wake up. Then that recontextualized to remind me that I am asleep and need to wake up now. I received a burst of energy and became much more focused. I could feel clear sensations in my ribs connecting to the spot just above my belly button. I imagined god saying the same phrase “have you woken up yet?” In a tone like he would not be surprised if I had. I focused on the present moment and responded. “Not yet, but I am ready” I didn’t get much more present from then on, the state eventually started to wain and I stretched and stopped the meditation session.

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@Jordan Wow, that's a lot!

What I like about the video above is the sound. Its rhythm is very gentle, and it helps to draw my attention to the "emptiness" of (my) consciousness in which it appears.

But it sounds like you know just what to do even without that:)

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What are you looking to get out of meditation? Because the more radical the orientation, the more radical the results. Here is a quote that I liked so much I saved it on my computer 5 years ago: 

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Surrender to all pain. Surrender to all fear. Surrender to Love. Love. Give everything, to Love.

- Martin Ball

 

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Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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9 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

What are you looking to get out of meditation?

i find it difficult to articulate this, but something along the lines of consciousness grasping itself, or grounding myself in what's real. my default mode is a kind of dissociation where i pretend like "this is not it" or "i''m not actually here", but i guess i actually am here...so maybe it would be beneficial to ground myself more in that recognition....otherwise i'm grounded in falsehood and keep running into problems.

of course psychedelics would be a more potent tool to achieve that and i might get back to that in the future, but right now i don't have access to them and it's okay for me to meditate even if that grounds me only moderately. it's better than nothing.

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45 minutes ago, Judy2 said:

i find it difficult to articulate this, but something along the lines of consciousness grasping itself, or grounding myself in what's real. my default mode is a kind of dissociation where i pretend like "this is not it" or "i''m not actually here", but i guess i actually am here...so maybe it would be beneficial to ground myself more in that recognition....otherwise i'm grounded in falsehood and keep running into problems.

of course psychedelics would be a more potent tool to achieve that and i might get back to that in the future, but right now i don't have access to them and it's okay for me to meditate even if that grounds me only moderately. it's better than nothing.

If those are your motivations, never underestimate meditation. But of course, it depends on how obsessed you are.

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Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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