Leo, do you think psychedelics should be legal/decriminalsied?

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, eggopm3 said:

I like the idea of a licensing system.

Every single provider needs to also take the psychedelic in question, multiple times.

[Basman]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

Every single provider needs to also take the psychedelic in question, multiple times.

Do pharmacists need to take the medicine they sell in order to sufficiently inform their clients?

[Yimpa]

38 minutes ago, Basman said:

Do pharmacists need to take the medicine they sell in order to sufficiently inform their clients?

That’s what I found fascinating about the ketamine clinic I went to. Many who work there have had experience with it. 

Then they started branching out and becoming more mainstream and hiring newbies with no psychedelic experiences, and, well, I feel that that’s good for profits but the integrity starts to water down. 

[Leo Gura]

@Scholar I don't like you attitude. You always find some jerk thing to say to me.

[Elliott]

Heavy drug users flocked to and concentrated in those cities, it didn't create new users, it concentrated them from the entire country into a small area. Really, if there was a federal program to help them, the experiment would have been a godsend. But heroine and hard drugs should not be legalized.

Edited Sunday at 02:59 AM by Elliott

[Thought Art]

@Scholar Do you drink and smoke weed?

[Thought Art]

I’m starting to think that drug addicts problem is deeper than drugs. 

[EdgeGod900]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Scholar I don't like you attitude. You always find some jerk thing to say to me.

I think he's negging. I only do this shit to girls, but if he likes men, thats no problemo.

Edited Sunday at 08:01 AM by EdgeGod900

[Basman]

8 hours ago, Yimpa said:

That’s what I found fascinating about the ketamine clinic I went to. Many who work there have had experience with it. 

Then they started branching out and becoming more mainstream and hiring newbies with no psychedelic experiences, and, well, I feel that that’s good for profits but the integrity starts to water down. 

Sure you don't mean customer experience? Integrity would relate more to health procedures and not trying rip off customers.

[Starlight321]

@Leo Gura I think one of the differences between Portugual and Portland is that Portugual is a very small country with a its own language and therefore it is not as easy for the homeless across europe to come there as it is in the US. Those people could also get deported back to their countries of origine if they break the law.

There is also a cultural problem. The people in the US are often  more like "everybody is on his own" and as scholar has said there are no structures in place to deal with the sickness and trauma of the drug addicts as in most European countries. For people from Europe that is obvious.

In Portugual if addicts get caught they lose their drugs and have to visit a rehab strict program and get supported by a wide net. This net is also very well interwoven across society.

Take for example health insurance, which covers basic services. The people can go to a doctor or rehab clinic or call an ambulance and it is paid by their insurance which prevents in many cases that people fall that low. Also in most European countries the people expact that the goverment protects and help those people, even though over the last years we got so much libertarian shit (a lot from the US) via social media. 

On the other hand I have to say that the bigger the country the harder it is to scale it up and accumulate the resources. We should also consider that those rehab programs do not always work, and most often not, if one is already really really deep down the heroin hole.

Like Portland in countries are also cities which serve as hubs where it is easier to access certain drug leading to people to flock to.  The city where I live in has huge air port and is known for as one of the biggest transshipment points for cocain (crack) in europe making it relative cheaper so that addicts across a big chunk of the country come to and live on the streets, overwhelming the system. But here are also other factors at play like the city has one of the biggest legal red light districts in europe which attracts scatchy and broken people and unlawful behaviour.

What's remarkable is that we have two sites here where consuming is tolerated and drug addicts can get clean syringes and needles and have the possibility to consume their drugs there safely and spent some time leading to a reduction of the risk of overdoses and death reducing the number of drug deaths from 150 to 35. 

In my opinion we shouldn't legalize hard drugs and lsd because people are too foolish to handle them properly. I think we here and some of my friends live in a bubble of relative responsibility and maturity (sometimes not even that) but most people aren't like that and subtracting from their health by using them improperly. I also know plenty people using weed avoiding adressing their problems so that they slowly fester.

 

[vibv]

1 hour ago, EdgeGod900 said:

I think he's negging. I only do this shit to girls, but if he likes men, thats no problemo.

Negging is such a toxic concept lol (yeah I did it too)

[Yimpa]

9 hours ago, Basman said:

Sure you don't mean customer experience? Integrity would relate more to health procedures and not trying rip off customers.

No, I Mean the GOD experience!

[Schizophonia]

It could be legalized but sold discreetly.