Violent Energy on 5-MeO. What Is This?

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Clarence said:

Have you experimented with redosing using the plugging method? I imagine it would work fine, but be very inconvenient.

Of course you can redose however much you want.

You could redose 10 times and trip for 10 hrs straight. Is it a good idea? The more you do it the more unhinged you'll get, the more you'll hurt yourself.

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[Clarence]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course you can redose however much you want.

I wish it were less inconvenient. What's interesting, though, is that you ended up tripping 24/7 during your 30-day retreat (with only one dose a day, if I understood correctly).

Have you done something like this more than once?

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Clarence said:

I wish it were less inconvenient. What's interesting, though, is that you ended up tripping 24/7 during your 30-day retreat (with only one dose a day, if I understood correctly).

Have you done something like this more than once?

That 24/7 tripping happened in the last few days of the retreat. It wasn't for the whole 30 days. That would have been insanely too much.

I have tripped for over 60 days.

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[Clarence]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That 24/7 tripping happened in the last few days of the retreat. It wasn't for the whole 30 days. That would have been insanely too much.

Yes, I do remember, but it's crazy still that it even happened.

That episode was so profound that I deeply wish to experience it for myself.

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I have tripped for over 60 days.

Wow. Did you make a post or an episode about it? I don't remember you talking about those 60 days. Which psychedelic were you using? Was it radically different from the 30-day retreat?

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[Nemra]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

have tripped for over 60 days.

WTF?!

I couldn't even stomach my first one which was a huge dose (not 5-MeO).

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[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, Clarence said:

That episode was so profound that I deeply wish to experience it for myself.

Frankly it was too much.

I was to the point of losing my mind. I was tripping so much I couldn't even sleep, which drives you mad.

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Wow. Did you make a post or an episode about it?

Nope.

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Which psychedelic were you using?

5-MeOs

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[Clarence]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Nope.

I hope you will at some point, perhaps in the course.

I deeply wish I could know everything you went through, though I understand you couldn't share everything with us.

[Nemra]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I was tripping so much I couldn't even sleep, which drives you mad.

Because your eyes were seeing stuff even when they were shut?

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Because your eyes were seeing stuff even when they were shut?

Not eyes. Just one neverending trip.

Imagine a mushroom trip that lasts for 150 hours. That's what it was kinda like.

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[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Clarence said:

I hope you will at some point, perhaps in the course.

I deeply wish I could know everything you went through, though I understand you couldn't share everything with us.

Some day.

[Nemra]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Not eyes. Just one neverending trip.

Imagine a mushroom trip that lasts for 150 hours. That's what it was kinda like.

That's a thing that I'm afraid of.

I got shit scared of that on my first trip. I couldn't just have a break for a moment.

Whether my eyes were open or closed, it made no difference. I couldn't know if I was actually sleeping or not as I was tripping late at night.

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[Leo Gura]

I would get some sleep but I was tripping hard in my sleep.

[Clarence]

25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Some day.

I'm happy to hear that.

Whenever the time feels right.

[Davino]

What I noticed is that I couldn't reach higher consciousness because my vessel was becoming the bottleneck. That's why I decided to consolidate myself with more classical spiritual disciplines. Otherwise I felt that in one of my psychedelic consciousness peaks I would get fried like a chicken. My consciousness was getting diluted, obstructed and twisted by my body and mind. Now it's more crystalline, my consciousness can work more at ease and interconnect with itself in higher purity and holism.

[shree]

On 4/9/2025 at 0:52 PM, LambdaDelta said:

Doesn't have to be. There's boofing, which I don't like put people here do. Or better yet, IM. There's a study showing the many advantages of IM over vaporizing.

https://akjournals.com/view/journals/2054/4/2/article-p104.xml

The only trouble is the lack of salts on the market currently, but they'll be restocked very soon. 

Have you tried DPT or the 4-subs? If you want long lasting, go for lysergamides or psychedelic amphetamines. 

Boofing sadly never had any effect on me at all. No matter the technique or dose.

IM is also not an option. Don't like the idea of sticking needles in my veins.

 

Yeah, I tried LSD, 4-AcO-DMT and 5-MeO-MALT, and had great experiences with all of them.

 

On 4/9/2025 at 0:58 PM, Leo Gura said:

If you make a vape pen you can sip on 5-MeO to maintain a mild high for hours.

Good point. I will do this.

 

On 4/9/2025 at 2:16 PM, Thought Art said:

 

@shree I am curious what Martin Ball would say, you could consider booking a 30 minute session with him or something to explain your symptoms. Getting a good energetic balance, and being able to relax into the state could be the key to deeper trips.

 

Good point. Will do this also!

Edited April 11 by shree

[Salvijus]

It means you are becoming a super saiyan. Ggwp. 

Edited April 11 by Salvijus

[Schizophonia]

On 09/04/2025 at 5:19 PM, Leo Gura said:

I would get some sleep but I was tripping hard in my sleep.

Was it intentional?
You could have taken an antipsychotic or cyproheptadine.

[shree]

On 4/9/2025 at 7:48 PM, Davino said:

What I noticed is that I couldn't reach higher consciousness because my vessel was becoming the bottleneck. That's why I decided to consolidate myself with more classical spiritual disciplines. Otherwise I felt that in one of my psychedelic consciousness peaks I would get fried like a chicken. My consciousness was getting diluted, obstructed and twisted by my body and mind. Now it's more crystalline, my consciousness can work more at ease and interconnect with itself in higher purity and holism.

Yeah, that could be it.

I don't have these problem on other psychedelics.

I will try vaping lower doses with a vape pen and working through these blockages.

 

[shree]

1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

It means you are becoming a super saiyan. Ggwp. 

I prefer embodying Christ, but Goku works just as well for me.

[Davino]

6 hours ago, shree said:

I will try vaping lower doses with a vape pen and working through these blockages.

Kundalini yoga and vipassana helped me do it in sober everyday life.