A person's energy at death question please ...

[Yeah Yeah]

This is serious to me and I need clarity Thankyou and please I do t K ow who else to get the answer from but - say when I die either some accident, naturally or a person commits suicide out of despair ... Does the energy you die with then magnify by millions or billions into the the supposed otherside ... Or would I as the godhead dreaming awaken to the white light no matter what ... Like is the information in spiritual teachings which warn that if I die say negative vibrational frequency energy will that only magnify to the other side but if a person dies peaceful then that magnifies or is this idea a frightening one part of the godhead dreaming as like game guardrails to stop it from waking up and ending the dream so easily - please answer especially Leo if possible since I trust Leo's spiritual awakenings as some of the few I can rarely if chance to reach out for a direct answers please and thank you because if it is true I could essentially be a trapped lonely dreamer godhead who then magnifies something on the otherside 

[Yeah Yeah]

Hello 👋 I'm seeking answers or is this non response a mirror of my own solipsist reality 😐

[ExploringReality]

Breathe. 

Do not harm the body. When you get to the other side, you will be Here. The other side is not separate from where you are. But death can also be a window into your deathless true nature.

Our time will come when the body will fall, do not rush to pull back the curtains of Maya.

Don't easily buy into things which you heard a teacher say through fear. You don't know,and that's okay.

Nirvana is letting go. Blowing out the candle of desire. It is full completion. Surrender to thusness. 

Edited yesterday at 06:22 AM by ExploringReality

[Yeah Yeah]

@ExploringReality okay thank you for your response but dude I'm in existential suffering like I want to go back to the white light like I'm in pain and there is a strong piece of myself that can't stand being alive as this finite form like I could blow myself open god far out man god like there must be an escape hatch please I want to wake up fucks sake 

[Hojo]

From my experience and what I hear it can he bad or good. When you lose identity there is no arguing or theorizing yourself out of a state of mind. Like you are there just as much as you are there in a classroom but you can't question it only react. God just ssy you are dead how do you like it and you don't know whether or not you are going to like it or not till it happens and when it happens you are already in it and can't get out.

To me i had a nde it felt like someone tied my body so I couldn't move and I had no eyes to cry but wanted to no eyes to see but wanted too I wanted to scream but I have no mouth. And the energy just balled up inside of me cause I couldn't expel it. 

Edited yesterday at 02:22 PM by Hojo

[Rafael Thundercat]

12 hours ago, Yeah Yeah said:

or is this idea a frightening one part of the godhead dreaming as like game guardrails to stop it from waking up and ending the dream so easily

If is a guardrail feature i dont know but zI know is working, because even after many trips I still dont like the ideia of ending the dream by suicide. Maybe the Curiosity in me is bigger than the drive to end all. Yes, this dream can be a hell scape sometimes, but once you start enjoying the study of your own inteligence, and even the Trickster God is, then you fall in love for exploring this Game like was you would he playing the most advanced video game ever. Yes is hard sometimes. But no. When the reset button comes it comes. Keep playing till you unravel the whole thread of Infinity.

[Judy2]

12 hours ago, Yeah Yeah said:

This is serious to me and I need clarity Thankyou and please I do t K ow who else to get the answer from but - say when I die...

what do you want/need us to say in response? whatever we say, is it truly going to satisfy you?

if you're scared of death, how reassuring will it be to hear Leo say that you needn't fear death? 

i can only speak for myself, but when i'm scared....having people tell me i needn't be scared isn't just magically gonna make me say "oh, you're right! now i'm no longer scared". 

maybe instead of desperately looking for external reassurance, you can try to look inward....why is death scary? who's scared? what is your agenda in wanting to know that death will look a certain way? what is your agenda in wanting a certain theory about death to be true, and another theory about death to be false?

....not sure if this resonates at all, but this is what came to mind here:) it's not intended to be mean or anything, but i'm trying to point to the redundancy of the question, or, i guess, the impossibility of you receiving a satisfying answer in the form of a textual reply by some person on a forum.

and of course, if you feel like this topic is destabilising you too much, please drop it for now and ground yourself in something simple and tangible:)

[ExploringReality]

Just accept the suffering that is here, go on YouTube and listen to sadhguru, osho and Alan Watts. They can deliver a reassuring message on death. 

Try to surf the waves of suffering brother, you can think of your life as one piece of wave in an immense ocean. "You are not just a drop in the ocean you are the entire ocean in the drop" - Deepak Chopra.

[Yeah Yeah]

I appreciate you trying to help, but honestly, none of these answers touch what I’m actually facing.

I’m not just scared of “death.” I’m not just scared of “the unknown.”
I’m trapped inside a nightmare. I’m trapped inside unbearable, existential pain, sexual agony, loneliness, fading youth, aging, and the rotting of my dreams — and now I realize that even suicide might not be a clean escape because of the way energy could magnify and trap me further.

I’m not asking for reassurance.
I’m not asking for Alan Watts quotes or advice to "accept the suffering."
I’m telling you that I’m standing inside a living hell where even the exit doors are rigged.

Every fiber of me is screaming for release, but I also realize that if I die soaking in despair, hatred, and fear, I risk carrying that energy with me into whatever comes next.

That’s not something you fix by "surfing the waves" or "grounding yourself." That’s not something a YouTube talk can dissolve.

This isn’t fear of death.
It’s terror at being trapped alive in my own unhealed energy for eternity.

And no amount of poetic ideas about "being the ocean in a drop" touches that.

I don’t want to "cope" with this existence.
I want to wake the fuck up from it.

But right now, it feels like every direction — living, dying, staying, leaving — leads to the same nightmare just folding over itself endlessly.

If you don’t know how to answer that, that’s fine.
But at least hear me clearly.

I’m not looking for soft spiritual answers.
I’m looking for a way to survive knowing there might be no clean escape — and still not completely collapse into despair.

[integral]

I feel like it’s irresponsible for me to tell you the truth but I’m gonna do so anyway.

I’m only gonna tell you the truth so that it could ease your mind/Anxiety.

Death will be a perfectly calm experience and there will be nothing wrong with it whatsoever. Anything else is absurd.

Now I want you to go out, talk to a bunch of hot girls and get laid and have some fun and then go to a movie and have some fun and then sleep for 10 hours straight.

Do you know why because you’re gonna die anyway!

I set you free! Go have fun.

When you’re in these crazy anxiety states stuck in your head you need to get out and socialize and go do normal things and stop thinking about all of this existential stuff.  Go take a break and reset your system for a week or a month. 

Edited 11 hours ago by integral

[Yeah Yeah]

@integral okay that's great seriously thankyou for this response because my soul is having like existential anxiety about if I die do I return to god even in say despair or negative emotions or could I be doomed if you know it ended abruptly but this type of response yes it is relieving honestly like a giant sigh of relief it's miraculous if true and not like some hell realm torment quantum projection endless suffering cycles if you're right that is like a massive miracle because it easily could have been not love and godly goodness infinitely it could have been a schitzoohrenic endless loop of chaos without divine design ... Like does that make sense? It gives me the same weird sensation if I think long enough of me actually existing or the idea god never had a beginning nor an ending or how infinite the universe is like, it puts me at least sometimes in a mind blowing sensation - you know of those sensations??? I think I'm getting to the core idea here if you are correct so yeah thanks - from a finite born and die organism on a rotating planet that I'll be eliminated and maybe endless offering in the after life like that could have been it but it is maybe hopefully unconditional love even for those dying in lower vibrations or having done wrong in life like it almost so easily could not have been the divine blessings it is ... I think my words are close enough

Edited 10 hours ago by Yeah Yeah

[integral]

@Yeah Yeah Half of the world thinks hell is real and if any of those people actually seriously considered what their beliefs are they would be having panic attacks every day. So it takes intelligence to actually seriously consider all of these stories like you have.

But at the end of the day these are bunch of stories coming from people that aren’t even intelligent enough to really think about it.

You made a decision to live the life you’re living right now because you are God. infinite intelligence decided to have the life you’re living right now and when you die you’ll remember why. It will all “click”.

Metaphorically when you die you’ll just laugh, because it all makes sense.

[integral]

@Yeah Yeah I read a lot of Leo’s comments and some of them about death.

He will tell you that at death you’ll just merge with infinite love.

I want you to seriously contemplate with all your intelligence what that means and how beautiful that is. exactly like how right now you used all your intelligence to imagine the worst scenario, I want you to now take that same intelligence and imagine what it means to merge with infinite love.

Now after that realize how simple life is and live your life fully without fear.

Edited 10 hours ago by integral

[Yeah Yeah]

Please bare with me please ... You should know a thing or two as the moderator - I'm a wondered I to Leo temple and you are like an arch angel - this may be taboo but please okay - is this like any response I get just a part of the dream projections like even if Leo Gura said that if I eventually ended myself it is fine god will still accept - please - is that too a part of my godhead finite solipsist lonely dreamer material not actuality ... Please bare with me ...

 

Thanks again for trying to help.

I guess where I’m really at is:

I’m not stuck imagining worst-case scenarios because I want to scare myself. I’m stuck because when I look honestly at where my life could head — no love, no sex, no success, just aging alone — it’s horrifying.

I’m scared that if I try to end myself, it’ll just make things worse after death. And at the same time, I’m scared that if I don't end myself, I’ll just rot into old age, alone, bitter, forgotten, with no way out.

I’m not trying to be negative for the sake of it. I just can’t pretend life looks beautiful to me right now. And if I'm being completely real — I’m hoping that if things stay this bad, my higher self would have enough mercy to end me before it gets to the point where I totally crack.

I’m still alive because some part of me hasn’t given up. But it’s not because I’m convinced life will magically get better. It’s because I’m still trying to stand in reality without lying to myself.

Just wanted to explain that honestly.

[integral]

@Yeah Yeah there’s no way you’re gonna die before having sex. I Don’t allow it

there’s clearly plenty of things to look forward to, you just have to figure it out and motivate yourself into working every day to get it.

This is the self development journey that all of us in the community have done.

You’re not alone and you 100% can do this.

I don’t wanna shoot Leo in the foot here but the first time he had sex was in his late 20s. he was clueless with women. then he did the work and he Applied himself every day and solved it.

Leo has a three part series on youtube called how to get laid and it’s definitely worth a watch.

There are a lot of core videos Leo has made to help you with your goals.

also it would make sense to go to the self development section and post issues you’re having. so we could target one step at a time.

you’re gonna get laid, you’re gonna make money, Let’s go

Edited 8 hours ago by integral

[integral]

I’m not gonna tell you that this is gonna be easy, but as you start making progress you’re gonna start feeling a hell of a lot better than you do right now.

Seeing small progress and working towards a vision that you have in your mind every day completely changes one’s perspective on life.

Leo also has a life purpose course that likely will help in this situation to give you vision.

[ExploringReality]

You are where you are in life. Are you going to resist the inevitable? Or flow with it? Dude you are going to fucking die! Embrace this life as it is, and make the most of it as well paradoxically.

Your ideas about death are just ideas. What the moderator is saying isn't anything Alan or osho doesn't say. Maybe a moderator can't fix your issues either. Maybe only you can figure out your dilemma. How about learning what emotions are, why your feeling this existential dread and what the root solution is for you personally. Your going to die regardless, but set yourself free, don't shoot the messenger. 

[Yeah Yeah]

@integral

Thanks for the encouragement, I appreciate it.

Right now I’m just trying to work through some deeper existential fears and questions around life, death, and the soul.

I’m not in immediate danger or anything like that — I’m just trying to understand things fully and honestly from where I’m at.

I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

 

[UnbornTao]

Most likely nobody knows, and there's no use speculating, even though adopting some comforting notion may relieve us of this anxiety. 

Beyond that, you can contemplate what life is, but becoming conscious of that requires serious work and commitment. An answer is irrelevant. I might as well respond with "banana", and it would be equally useful to you than an elaborate and convincing answer. In any case, it would leave you with a rumor, an idea, at best a possibility, but believing in that wouldn't change one's condition. This isn't bad or wrong either; it is a shared condition. You can use it to more powerfully inquire into the nature of life.

Edited 5 minutes ago by UnbornTao