Russell Brand Charged With Rape In UK

[Consept]

1 hour ago, Sea said:

It's not even about looks and riches, it's the guy being perceived as being a womanizer. It was surprising to me when I learned that Wilt Chamberlain had a (posthumous) sexual assault allegation. Someone who led a playboy lifestyle and claimed to have slept with 20,000 women still resorted to forcing a woman into a sexual act. 

I guess it's hard to get ones head around and I understand what you mean, as in if this girl says no just move on to the next who'll probably say yes. But I think what happens is they build up an entitlement around women as if they expect every woman to give them full access, so when one says no I think there's a certain  outrage they may feel and they just take what they think is 'theirs' anyway. It's like if a kid in nursery thinks a communal toy belongs to them, when another kid plays with it they instantly grab it back even if they have to be aggressive. 

Also add in the fact that in Chamberlain's day very few men were getting charged with rape or sexual assault, so there's no consequences to dissuade him from doing it, not even social consequences. 

Now it's still fairly easy to not get charged but there are significant social consequences, which you can argue is good or bad. 

 

[Leo Gura]

Isn't it obvious that people driven by sex have low character?

The issue of rape isn't lack of sex. The issue is lack of character.

Edited April 20 by Leo Gura

[Majed]

@Leo Gura For me pick up isn't about the sex as much as it is about the growth, adventure and exploration of the seduction and romance field. 

[LordFall]

On 2025-04-06 at 6:29 AM, Leo Gura said:

The rape card can def be overplayed. But Russell's past is egregious.

If anything, his past is probably worse than we know.

I agree. When one gets drunk with power they usually keep pushing the boundaries until something major happens to teach them their own limits. 

[Leo Gura]

Imagine the stories we haven't heard because the women are too embarassed to tell them.

[Raze]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Imagine the stories we haven't heard because the women are too embarassed to tell them.

You’re assuming he’s guilty just because he has a hedonist reputation. How do you know these accusations aren’t just retroactive rationalizations or women jumping on a clout bandwagon? That’s equally possible. 

[Leo Gura]

39 minutes ago, Raze said:

You’re assuming he’s guilty just because he has a hedonist reputation.

It's not just guesswork, we have credible convergent stories of his unethical behavior. Stories from his co-workers and producers, not just female victims.

There is no doubt that he abused his power to get sex. The only question is how criminal did it get?

Clout bandwagon is not equally possible, it is highly implausible.

Edited April 20 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

Just look at the way he acts now... clearly not a man of integrity. He is a man child.

[gettoefl]

Most players are rapers. They court your no. A no is much respected and exciting than a yes. Your modesty is appreciated and the cue for him to up his game and his attention. Players never back off. Failure is unthinkable and in many cases has never happened. They seek challenge and disinterest. Yes is so boring.