Russell Brand Charged With Rape In UK

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Jannes said:

I dont know. But there are 4 accusations. The odds seem low that he is innocent.

I'm not saying it's impossible. He just don't strike me as the type to force himself on a woman who said no.

His politics might be deluded, but he's still a sensitive/empathic guy.

Edited yesterday at 11:28 AM by Wilhelm44

[Something Funny]

@Wilhelm44 he starts the video using deflection and talking about "British Government", trying to turn it into some kind of global politics / culture war issue to hide behind vs actually addressing the rape allegations directly. I don't think an innocent person with integrity would use this kind of technique. 

Similarly to how he used to be this stage green spirituality hippie and then turned MAGA christian when the rape accusations came up. How convenient that he can now talk about the light of the lord and use christianity to fend of rape accusations and use all the right wingers support to avoid prosecution.

And finally I don't like his tone and expressions, and such.

"I pray that you can see that by looking in my eyes" - has the most dead eyes ever.

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

He just don't strike me as the type to force himself on a woman who said no.

Lol

He's exactly the type if you read about his past.

He matured a lot since then.

[Jannes]

4 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I'm not saying it's impossible. He just don't strike me as the type to force himself on a woman who said no.

His politics might be deluded, but he's still a sensitive/empathic guy.

It was 20 years ago when he was a drug addict, imagine how much he has spiritually grown coming of drungs, getting more mature, being a parent and so forth.

[Something Funny]

12 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I'm not saying it's impossible. He just don't strike me as the type to force himself on a woman who said no.

His politics might be deluded, but he's still a sensitive/empathic guy.

He was a drunk on fame drug addict and an imbecile (according to his own words). Do you think he would even have the "soberness" of mind and the mental capacity necessary to process a "NO" from a woman and back off during one of his drug fueled states?

Edited yesterday at 11:39 AM by Something Funny

[Wilhelm44]

Okay I hear you guys. I'm still going to say innocent until proven guilty. Brand can thank his lucky stars you guys wont be sitting in the jury. 

[Something Funny]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

Okay I hear you guys. I'm still going to say innocent until proven guilty. Brand can thank his lucky stars you guys wont be sitting in the jury. 

As if he cares about the jury or the trial (do courts in the UK even have the jury system?). He will be chilling in the US, hiding behind Trump administration and his MAGA buddies. It's highly unlikely that they are going to extradite him.

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Something Funny said:

As if he cares about the jury or the trial (do courts in the UK even have the jury system?). He will be chilling in the US, hiding behind Trump administration and his MAGA buddies. It's highly unlikely that they are going to extradite him.

I think you're right, they don't have jury over there. But I do have a feeling you guys are slightly biased. If he wasn't Maga, you'd be slightly more neutral in this case.

[Wilhelm44]

Truth is, none of us really know what happened. That means - innocent until proven guilty. 

[Something Funny]

@Wilhelm44 

 

7 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But I do have a feeling you guys are slightly biased. If he wasn't Maga, you'd be slightly more neutral in this case.

Stage green leaning people he used to align himself with in the past wouldn't spare him the rape accusations.

It is likely that he went MAGA exactly because he knew that they wouldn't care.

Edited yesterday at 11:51 AM by Something Funny

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

That means - innocent until proven guilty. 

You can read the reports of his behavior from that era from many bystandards. Innocent he was not. He was a notorious sexual harasser and exploiter. Like a drunk horny monkey on meth. That he abused his celebrity power is a given.

Edited yesterday at 11:55 AM by Leo Gura

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

You can read the reports of his behavior from that era from many bystandards. Innocent he was not. He was a notorious sexual harasser.

I agree that he was extreme, but actual rape still needs to be proved.

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

I agree that he was extreme, but actual rape still needs to be proved.

It's not gonna be proven. It's the girls words vs his.

[Wilhelm44]

5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Wilhelm44 

 

Stage green leaning people he used to align himself with in the past wouldn't spare him the rape accusations.

It is likely that he went MAGA exactly because he knew that they wouldn't care.

You saying he went Maga to prepare for a potential rape case ?  I think he just fell into it like loads of other delusional people.

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not gonna be proven. It's the girls words vs his.

Then what makes you so certain that it actually happened ?

[Something Funny]

@Wilhelm44

5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You saying he went Maga to prepare for a potential rape case ?  I think he just fell into it like loads of other delusional people.

Not to prepare. Those rape allegations were floating around for a few years now. And they coincided with him going more and more towards alt rigjt + plus becoming a christian.

They could certainly be part of the reason. With the other part being him simply being delusional.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Then what makes you so certain that it actually happened ?

His well-documented notorious past + 4 accusations.

I can't be sure, but there's a lot of smoke there.

It's like asking, how do you know Jeffery Epstein molested anyone? All you got are stories from victims and his notorious past.

Edited yesterday at 12:08 PM by Leo Gura

[Aaron p]

I have lost all respect for law enforcement bodies and media outlets that deal with sexual misconduct. They've did it to themselves by tarring everyone with the same brush. I have had to sit and have conversations with people who have had their lives destroyed by either fabricated or exaggerated allegations. The fact that the word "rape" applies to a teenager who has sex with his girlfriend after they both have had alcohol...and to a 70 year old who kidnaps and violently forces himself into an 8 year old...tells me that this entire area has lost all credibility. 

It kinda feels like certain groups of people have this big red rape button that they push when they don't like someone. I have lost all respect for law enforcement bodies and media outlets that deal with sexual misconduct. Russel could very well have been forceful with girls, but Jesus Christ, this shit ruins people's lives. It's a dumb autistic fucking attack on men. These people and anyone who supports the automatic destruction of people's lives because of sexual misconduct need to seriously check themselves and or fuck off

Edited yesterday at 12:09 PM by Aaron p

[Something Funny]

14 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

I have lost all respect for law enforcement bodies and media outlets that deal with sexual misconduct. They've did it to themselves by tarring everyone with the same brush.

So all law enforcement bodies and all media outlets? 

15 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

The fact that the word "rape" applies to a teenager who has sex with his girlfriend after they both have had alcohol...

If she had so much alcohol that she can't even say no or move her body to get / push him away, while he is physically capable to have sex with her, it seems appropriate.

Why should getting drunk automatically assume consent? How do you know if she wants to have sex with you if she is unable to say yes or know and just lays there unconscious?

18 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

These people and anyone who supports the automatic destruction of people's lives because of sexual misconduct need to seriously check themselves and or fuck off

You mean in case of just allegations or in case of actual sexual misconduct?

[Leo Gura]

The rape card can def be overplayed. But Russell's past is egregious.

If anything, his past is probably worse than we know.

Edited yesterday at 12:30 PM by Leo Gura