Treat Women Like Children

[aurum]

@Emerald I apologize if I crossed a line.

Guys, be careful of ganging up on her. That's not what this should turn into.

[yetineti]

4 minutes ago, integral said:

So you interpreted it as my girlfriend's scolding me for not playing my masculine roll correctly?

No but you just did.

If you men want to emotionally manipulate and say it’s Truth, I can play that game all day.

 

Edited April 6 by yetineti

[integral]

1 minute ago, yetineti said:

No but you just did.

if you men just wanna emotionally manipulate and say truth, I can play that game all day.

None of us are engaging in personal attacks, we are exchanging World Views, without judgment.

[yetineti]

4 minutes ago, aurum said:

@Emerald I apologize if I crossed a line.

Guys, be careful of ganging up on her. That's not what this should turn into.

@aurum
I think she’s married. She’s fine.

Apologize to yourself for not excepting the role and impact emotions have had on your life if you really care about the Truth and understanding— much less fulfillment, having a decent relationship with people or getting your dick sucked.

Edited April 6 by yetineti

[Emerald]

25 minutes ago, integral said:

My girlfriend has told me multiple times that she's just a child and she wants me to take care of her and she can't handle life. If you want I will get her to text me that right now, she has enough self-awareness to know who she is and I didn't implant any ideas in her head.

I've definitely told my partner similar things before when I'm stressed/overwhelmed or I want to have some fun and lose my agency for an hour or two.

But if it were an ongoing dynamic, it wouldn't be fun or relieving. It would just be hiding from life and stagnating... not truly blooming.

[yetineti]

@integral

Are you asking me to tip toe around the Truth?

You can say people weren’t engaging in personal attacks, but you clearly don’t even know what that means.

You weren’t listening to the people you were talking to.

Edited April 6 by yetineti

[integral]

30 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@integral

Are you asking me to tip toe around the Truth?

You can say people weren’t engaging in personal attacks, but you clearly don’t even know what that means.

You weren’t listening to the people you were talking to.

Naaaa the women on this forum are battle VETERANS, for years they've plowed through the trenches with their bare hands on the very grounds we text.

This is a walk in the park for them! 

Edited April 6 by integral

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, integral said:

Naaaa the women on this forum are battle VETERANS, for years they've plowed through the trenches with their bare hands on this forum.

This is a walk in the park for them! 

Lol

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 

 

[yetineti]

4 minutes ago, integral said:

Naaaa the women on this forum are battle VETERANS, for years they've plowed through the trenches with their bare hands on the very grounds we text.

This is a walk in the park for them! 

Mockery dressed as praise.

[yetineti]

I’m not against truth-telling. I’m for truth that includes emotional presence—truth that lands, not just truth that hits.

When you drop a “hard truth” and watch someone shut down, that’s not clarity. That’s bypassing the responsibility to actually be with someone. To me, integrity isn’t just saying the thing—it’s saying it while staying connected.

I’m not saying everyone has to speak the way I do. I’m saying we need to notice when “sharing perspective” becomes a shield from emotional accountability. It’s not projection—it’s discernment.

I’ve been in enough circles to know when someone’s sidestepping discomfort by intellectualizing or masking disengagement as neutrality. That kind of “truth” is often just a more sophisticated way of avoiding the moment.

And I don’t need everyone to agree. What I’m pointing to is a pattern: whenever emotionally charged topics arise, the conversation often shifts toward detachment—like neutrality, clever framing, or sarcasm. That shift feels safe, but it kills the aliveness of the conversation.

So when I see that move happen, I speak up—not to accuse, but to bring us back to what’s real.

If someone replies, “Well yes, of course, that’s already part of my model,” I’d ask: is it really? Because what I’m saying isn’t just “some people need emotional sensitivity.” I’m saying: maybe the issue isn’t their sensitivity—it’s us not fully inhabiting our truth with emotional attunement.

That distinction matters. It changes the whole dynamic.

This isn’t about avoiding truth. It’s not about catering to fragility.

It’s about whether we’re fully embodying the truth—or just dropping it like a grenade and walking away.

 

 

[AION]

9 hours ago, Emerald said:

We live on a planet with 8 billion people. So, that's definitely a mindset thing.

And you can change that mindset if you want to so that you don't give "scraping the bottom of the pot" vibes. You would also just need to be more social in general to make this mindset shift.

And if you do make that shift, more women will see you as a higher quality guy who isn't desperate and has standards.

To be frank I just take women that take me so probably you are right about the scraping of the bottom vibes. It is kind of a sexual kink for me too I discovered lately: to be fully accepted as a bottom feeder. But with this vibe I only attract girls who are desperate too or they get turned off the moment they see me through. 

But it is very counter intuitive to have standards and self respect, because my mind says I will have less options if I narrow my options but somehow it is the other way around, the more self respect and standards, work to integrate my eternal child(man-child archetype) in a healthy way, I have the attractive I become. The thing is I only dated women who were kind of desperate too so that is all that I know. And I have always unconscious screened for that so I won't get disappointed in my endeavors.

I have been doing some 6 pillars of self esteem and it already made a massive difference. In the nightclub I attracted some good quality girls but the moment I open my mouth they quickly realize I'm not that guy and I'm just taking everything that I'm given lmao. Inner game is so difficult.

Edited April 6 by AION

[AION]

5 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes daddy, but..lol. I literally hesitated to use the word in my response but I was hoping you wouldn't make the correlation. I should have known better....you're a guy...and probably a freaky one at that...hehe.

I think they use the word daddy because they want to worship the masculine, not the masculine wanting to worship her as the feminine.

I think the discussion is beyond treating the woman as a child. Most women are immature just like some men are (to a much lesser degree), the thing is that it is very off putting to be worshiped as a woman. Man should only worship God, and not worship idols.

There are exceptions of woman that do want to be worshiped but these woman have this mother complex and want to mother their boyfriend. Most girls who most men are attracted to don't have this complex.

Older and mature women tend to have this mother complex aka cougars. For some reason I always attract them although I don't want them. Now I know why lol.

Edited April 6 by AION

[TheEnigma]

One of the greatest mysteries in my entire life is that I've always wondered... why is it that men and women have such a difficult time seeing eye to eye on reality? It almost always feels like we couldn't relate nor just be on each other's paths together.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Abusive relationships happen to irresponisible people who allow themselves to get boiled alive like frogs.

Just to really slam dunk this.

This is the type of argument rape apologists make when they blame the woman for being raped.

'She wore the short skirt, so she deserved it'

Notice there is a judgement call there.

[Twentyfirst]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Just to really slam dunk this.

This is the type of argument rape apologists make when they blame the woman for being raped.

'She wore the short skirt, so she deserved it'

Notice there is a judgement call there.

Nobody reasonable says she wore the skirt so she deserved it

They say she wore the SHORT skirt and that didn't help the situation 

[AION]

8 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Just to really slam dunk this.

This is the type of argument rape apologists make when they blame the woman for being raped.

'She wore the short skirt, so she deserved it'

Notice there is a judgement call there.

I don't see the connection

[Someone here]

37 minutes ago, TheEnigma said:

One of the greatest mysteries in my entire life is that I've always wondered... why is it that men and women have such a difficult time seeing eye to eye on reality? It almost always feels like we couldn't relate nor just be on each other's paths together.

 Maybe That's why increasingly men are going gay and women are becoming lesbos.  Maybe God was trolling us when he shaped our sexual organs to fit the opposite sex . Maybe dudes should have anal orgies and ladies should have a strapon party. 😋 

OK enough silliness for today..I think the problem that's happening here is that men want to think that they are somehow better than women by default. And women also think that .therefore you have this middle school kids fight in this thread about women should be this and men should be that .

But that's bullshit. Neither men are superior to women nor women are superior to men.

Every individual is a whole universe into himself/herself ..and its your level of consciousness..maturity..and love is what determines what good are you. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

'She wore the short skirt, so she deserved it'

 

[Alexop]

8 hours ago, gambler said:

You can be a grown adult woman who has a very mature psychology, life together, and all that responsible stuff but still have an aversion to reality. Take my mother for example, she is extremely mature, sharp, responsible and takes no bullshit. But, she likes to live in fantasy. One example is she hates confronting reality when it comes to the dark side of her children. If I tell her the cold truth about why her son did this, or why her daughter did that, she doesn't want to hear it. This is even an observation my older brother has made too--that she'd rather lie to herself and believe the lie. In this example, she does not like having the sanctity of her fantasy, or imagination, that she constructed about her loved ones violated of its pureness with unpleasant truths. Unlike my father who is okay with it, she'd rather choose comforting lies. 

What you described there is not maturity man, it is the opposite

[Natasha Tori Maru]

38 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Nobody reasonable says she wore the skirt so she deserved it

They say she wore the SHORT skirt and that didn't help the situation 

You're just reinforcing what I said.

Implying the presence of the skirt decision related to her being assaulted.

Miss-attributed responsibility