Treat Women Like Children

[Davino]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Masculine is the ocean in which the feminine fish swims.

Masculine builds the house, feminine makes it home.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I once approached a woman alone late at night in a parking garage with the opener: "Hey, do you like candy? I got candy in my white van."

It was hilarious.

You should do part 2 of your best openers.

I rolled on the floor laughing with that old blog post on your best openers. It's hilarious to see your brain power focused on breaking the ice with women. It shows a practical example of what you mean by emotional triggering.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Although one time I was wrestling with a girlfriend in bed and I was not able to out-wrestle her. Girls can be surprisingly strong when they want to be.

Hahahaha, I can agree and women wrestle dirty! Among men there's a code of honor when fighting, but they are willing to bridge the gap with whatever it takes

[OBEler]

50 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Same way you deal with your teenage kid who wants to race motorcycles without a helmet or get a face tattoo.

In the end you can't stop people from being ignorant and foolish. You can try to reason with them a bit, but that's about it.

How do you get through to a Trump supporter?

There must be a solution to this.

Maybe an agreement of sitting down together, relax, and it's called the truth session. To find together if it's reasonable to do what she thinks is good. Pure epistemology. She gets a candy after on top.

I know that will not work but something in that direction.

[RendHeaven]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Lol, Owen Cook looks gay + He thinks he has to sound gay to have relationships and automatically manifest it.

I have attracted some very pretty girls (not the calves Owen flirts with on the street) with my heavy, monotone voice; In fact, if I push myself to speak with better posture and confidence, my voice becomes even heavier; Typical voice of the dark-haired Frenchman with a prickly beard and a shirt.

If you know the YouTuber Denmo, that's kind of like it. I think Denmo is much more successful than Owen.

You would get destroyed by an effeminate fuckboy smoothtalker going lay for lay.

[Schizophonia]

42 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

You would be destroyed by an effeminate man who goes from camp to lay.

Many "effeminate fuckboys" are simply guys who look younger than their age thanks to a good metabolism.

Owen has a big beard and is "thick," but he talks and dresses like a gay man.

Then, I want to say that if you take him to my town in France, people will intuitively think he likes to get laid, lol.

When I think of someone manly, I think of my father and uncles, their deep voices and stoic demeanor.

But none of that matters, I teased, I don't care.

 

Edited yesterday at 10:32 AM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

36 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

You would get destroyed by an effeminate fuckboy smoothtalker going lay for lay.

+ I don't want be in competition with others; That would be like experiencing lack, being needy.
I'm an algorithm of love; There's no reason to be shy because all I do is give, everyone loves to entertain, starting with women.

[Leo Gura]

Remember that respecting women is crucial.

If you treat them so much like children that you lose respect for them, that will backfire on you and destroy your relationship.

So be careful. Consider the consequences of disrespect.

If you disrespect women, you've failed. This is where all the manosphere ideologies fail. The Titanic crashes into the iceberg of disrespect.

Edited yesterday at 11:32 AM by Leo Gura

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But in the bigger picture, is it not true that consciousness is interested in waking up to more of itself. So there's also a deeper form of evolution going on.

Relationships are designed to lock you in to the world via children, success, and retirement plans.

Look everyone, we are living the dream!

I mean who has ever head of a holy relationship unless you're a course in miracles student?

For anyone curious, in a holy relationship, you walk around seeing every person as wholly flesh-less, faultless, flawless.

Takes some practice but this is how consciousness wakes itself.

[gettoefl]

48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Remember that respecting women is crucial.

If you treat them so much like children that you lose respect for them, that will backfire on you and destroy your relationship.

So be careful. Consider the consequences of disrespect.

If you disrespect women, you've failed. This is where all the manosphere ideologies fail. The Titanic crashes into the iceberg of disrespect.

Pedestalize don't patronise.

[Twentyfirst]

Don't treat women like children. Treat them like servants. All the religions point towards women being a "helpmate" to men. It's the best dynamic for both parties that I have found. It's really hard for you to get frustrated at her and therefore there won't be frustration leading to other problems and vice versa. Women love serving men even the most hardcore feminists but for the feminist you have to be alone with them because in front of their friends they will have to perform being equal

But here is a video on treating women like children if you decide to do that

 

[Wilhelm44]

28 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Relationships are designed to lock you in to the world via children, success, and retirement plans.

Look everyone, we are living the dream!

I mean who has ever head of a holy relationship unless you're a course in miracles student?

For anyone curious, in a holy relationship, you walk around seeing every person as wholly flesh-less, faultless, flawless.

Takes some practice but this is how consciousness wakes itself.

Relationship is obviously also about awakening. In a marriage for example there is no where to hide. You either face and heal your stuff, or the marriage will become dysfunctional and end.

Edited yesterday at 12:17 PM by Wilhelm44

[AION]

Nightclubs are basically kindergarten for adults. Brothers go to a night club like a business meeting and have bad night. These things are important 

• Emotional safety

• No logic

• Freedom to explore

• No pressure to perform

• being in your body, not your mind 

• Imaginative presence

• Loving, playful connection

• Gentle structure/leading

 

Edited yesterday at 01:35 PM by AION

[Alexop]

17 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

Exactly. I feel like the MGTOW and Tate guys love to philosophize on how to handle and treat women yet the ultimate joke is most of them are incels. They have no real world proof for these theories and can’t even attract women in real life. Honestly it’s quite pathetic. Few of the men here know how to actually lead and polarize a relationship with integrity and respect. And in that sense THEY are the children. And full honesty I think in general women are just more conscious then men 

WORD man. I was so disappointed of so many men in my life that my opinion is exactly the opposite. Now I decided to not assume that the men I meet are mature, because I was so wrong about it too many times. I met many more mature women than men. Just because they are logical and talk about philosophy shit, does not make them mature. Maturity is in emotional intelligence and behavior, not in philosophy bullshit. Men have to be forged like swords, but our snowflake societies pamper them thier whole lives. No doubt we have so many incels and many women who decide to stay single. Better single than together with a man-child.

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Relationship is obviously also about awakening. In a marriage for example there is no where to hide. You either face and heal your stuff, or the marriage will become dysfunctional and end.

That's self help rather than self halt.

[Wilhelm44]

25 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

That's self help rather than self halt.

Lets not get too technical, healing one's wounds is part of the process of deconstructing the mind and waking up. It all requires new perception.

[Emerald]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's generally good advice when dealing with the feminine.

As a man you have to learn to emotionally manipulate women.

This sounds bad, but feminine women need and want their emotions managed. Children also need their emotions managed. The whole challenge of being a man is that you must deliver results with no one else to comfort you or manage your emotions. Women can operate that way too, but then they lose their feminine qualities and become masculine, which makes them unattractive.

The problem though is that this irresponsibility over one's own emotions in women cannot ultimately work. It must fail because life is far too serious to manage without being fully in control over your emotions. The feminine way of life is just not suitable for serious survival. It works when survival is relatively easy. Which is why feminine women often need men to take care of survival for them. The more she's able to handle very difficult survival, the less feminine she's gonna be. So there's a tradeoff between survival effectiveness and feminine innocence. If you want a very feminine girl then you gotta be ready to take care of her more, manipulate her emotions for her, etc. And in that sense it is like dealing with a child because the child cannot handle its own survival. That's the common thread.

Women are fully capable of taking care of themselves. The problem is that basically turns them into men. Which is unappealing to most men and women.

Learning to handle the feminine is a very tricky skill. It requires learning emotional manipulation. Men are never taught this tricky skill.

That's okay, if that's really what you want. But I can tell you that you can experience more than that... as that's a very limited frame you have on human relationships.

This whole thing sounds like a Pygmalion/Galatea dynamic... as is what typically happens when a guy isn't integrated with his Feminine side.

You should look into Anima integration. I think it would help you grow and to connect more with your humanity and feel more of a sense of belonging with people, with nature, and in the universe more generally.

And if you have issues with your body... it would also help you have a more harmonious relationship with your physical form as the Feminine side is about embracing the 3-D world.

And it would also open you up to connecting with a woman that you feel more intimacy and kinship with... if that's something you want.

But this relationship dynamic you're describing sounds really under-developed and boring. And no real intimacy would be possible... as it requires a huge power imbalance to make it work and would require the woman to forego individuation and the curiosities of life.

And that isn't a natural state for humans to be in as time and experience are accrued... whether survival is a huge factor or not.

So, she'd have to really keep herself stuffed into a small mold. And for what? Just to attract a guy who has a really stunted relationship with his Feminine side that she can never have real human intimacy with.

And if she doesn't struggle with polarization, why would she want to shove herself into that mold when there are better options available for her?

Nothing real and human can occur if there's such an extreme imbalance. And this framework cannot lead to a secure healthy relationship.

But it's no wonder why you choose to be alone as you'd basically be acting as your partner's parent.

I would probably isolate myself if I saw the world that way... whether I was male or female.

If I was male, I'd be dreadfully bored with my partner and be incredibly resentful for them not behaving like an adult. And if I were female, I'd feel like my agency was being stolen and that I wouldn't be able to fully bloom and have my partner appreciating my blooming.

Here's a video about integrating the Feminine if you'd like to check it out...

 

[AION]

13 minutes ago, Emerald said:

That's okay, if that's really what you want. But I can tell you that you can experience more than that... as that's a very limited frame you have on human relationships.

This whole thing sounds like a Pygmalion/Galatea dynamic... as is what typically happens when a guy isn't integrated with his Feminine side.

You should look into Anima integration. I think it would help you grow and to connect more with your humanity and feel more of a sense of belonging with people, with nature, and in the universe more generally.

And if you have issues with your body... it would also help you have a more harmonious relationship with your physical form as the Feminine side is about embracing the 3-D world.

And it would also open you up to connecting with a woman that you feel more intimacy and kinship with... if that's something you want.

But this relationship dynamic you're describing sounds really under-developed and boring. And no real intimacy would be possible... as it requires a huge power imbalance to make it work and would require the woman to forego individuation and the curiosities of life.

And that isn't a natural state for humans to be in as time and experience are accrued... whether survival is a huge factor or not.

So, she'd have to really keep herself stuffed into a small mold. And for what? Just to attract a guy who has a really stunted relationship with his Feminine side that she can never have real human intimacy with.

And if she doesn't struggle with polarization, why would she want to shove herself into that mold when there are better options available for her?

Nothing real and human can occur if there's such an extreme imbalance. And this framework cannot lead to a secure healthy relationship.

But it's no wonder why you choose to be alone as you'd basically be acting as your partner's parent.

I would probably isolate myself if I saw the world that way... whether I was male or female.

If I was male, I'd be dreadfully bored with my partner and be incredibly resentful for them not behaving like an adult. And if I were female, I'd feel like my agency was being stolen and that I wouldn't be able to fully bloom and have my partner appreciating my blooming.

Here's a video about integrating the Feminine if you'd like to check it out...

 

Thanks for typing this. I’m struggling with this too. I wanted to type something about the anima but I thought I couldn’t do it justice so I didn’t. But the thing is , even if one has a sufficient anima integration, as a man you still need these tactical tools to deal with women. Anima integration won’t stop a woman flaking on the last moment because her God is her emotion. It has nothing to do with guys. 

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, MarkKol said:

Penis and testicles are biological foundations of a male, he’s talking about what makes a man more man-like and less child-like.

Specifying the genitals was an introduction to a deeper critique on what I thought I perceived.

9 hours ago, MarkKol said:

Capiche french fry? 🍟 

Yum, i live french fries.

I regularly cook it in the air fryer with a a pork chop, salad, yogurt cake and a few cigarettes for dessert.

Top cool. 

9 hours ago, MarkKol said:

I’ve noticed you use some words in tandem that I don’t quite understand the meaning of when combined into a sentence,

 

I’ve seen you say you’re studying philosophy, perhaps it’s that. For example “master manifestors”. I don’t really subscribe to the concept of manifesting.

You manifest the entire universe every second in every detail.

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm talking about masculine and feminine psychology. Not your sex organs.

Women can be masculine and men can be feminine.

Sorry if I came across as too dismissive/pretentious with my theories, but what I meant was that you're going to sound too morbid when you try to describe what it means to be masculine.

There's something wrong with that.