Understanding transgenderism.

[Elliott]

8 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Quit eating hormone blockers.

Exactly, quit eating all food. Perfect is perfect.

 

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Edited Monday at 03:28 PM by Elliott

[D2sage]

@Elliott

This would never hold in court.

Foods like flaxseed or veggies may tweak estrogen levels by fractions. Hormone blockers suppress production by 90%+. One ripple, the other is a tsunami. Its like comparing a band-aid to surgery.

Edited Monday at 04:00 PM by D2sage

[Adrian colby]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Adrian colby

Agreed, if when I was 12 years old the doctor had told me I was going to have a micro penis but with hormone treatment it would be normal, I wouldn't hesitate to take hormones.

From a perspective of ignorance, you think: people should accept themselves as they are, as nature created them, but you could say the same about someone who is born blind and could see with an operation.

We tend to view sexuality as something banal or taken for granted, and the reality is that it is an essential facet of human life that generates enormous amounts of energy, much of which is energy of suffering. It's a very complicated subject, so it's best to respect what is unknown.

Absolutely. 

I don’t take my sexuality or the act of intimacy for granted. Had I been born in another time or culture without medical help, I might have lived my entire life without it—or not lived at all. I likely would have either been put to death or ended my own life. I’m incredibly grateful for what the surgeons achieved. Before genital surgery, I had never experienced an orgasm due to the deformity. But through microsurgery on the nerves and surrounding muscle structures, they made something extraordinary possible. First time I ever experienced orgasm was after surgery. 

Because of the stigma surrounding my condition, I completely shut down my sexuality. I didn’t want it associated with perversion, so I chose disinterest. I took it so far that I began to reject femininity entirely—even women—and tried to erase the feminine within myself. This isn’t the case for everyone with sexual incongruencies, as many are fluid or non-binary. But for me, being masculine in manifestation, I went to extremes—suppressing even the ‘divine’ feminine, which led to a toxic imbalance. Masculine and feminine energies exist in all of us and are meant to work cooperatively, as a unity. This isn’t just about sex or gender—it’s about balancing intellect and emotion, presence and receptivity, within the mind itself.

It wasn’t until something happened about a year ago that I realised just how completely shut down I had been—sexually and emotionally. Someone outside my marriage unexpectedly triggered my heart to open again, and for the first time in a long time, I began to truly contemplate and observe the power of sexual energy. It struck me as a fundamental force in the universe, capable of both destruction and creation. When I projected it outward onto someone with an expectation that wasn’t met, it led to intense emotional suffering. But being more conscious this time, I stepped back and watched—my thoughts, my emotions, my behaviours. Instead of pushing the energy away, I let it fully engulf me. I stopped projecting it outward and turned it inward, using its strength to completely love and accept myself. That shift created a deep sense of self-confidence and contentment, and my heart moved from drawing inward to radiating outward—offering love instead of needing it. I no longer sought satisfaction from anyone or anything. In that state, I couldn’t be hurt, because I wasn’t grasping or possessing—there were no expectations, only acceptance. I stopped calling it lust or desire and began to simply recognise it as a powerful energy. That recognition allowed me to transmute it, and when I raised it into my heart, it felt like a partial kundalini awakening.

When I embraced and fully stepped into that new way of being, it began to affect the people around me—most profoundly, my wife. She had never shown any interest in spirituality or belief in such things, yet something began to shift in her and one evening she reluctantly said to me “ it’s so cliche I don’t want to say it but I feel like I’m awakening!” She started seeing light around me and described feeling as though she’d been drugged, repeatedly insisting that something must be in the water. She had never taken psychedelics before but started describing seeing bright patterns when she kissed me. I had decided to let it out in front of her and be my authentic self. Singing and dancing in my own way and not holding any resistance to my expression and she said it was like seeing ‘me’ for the first time and who I really was which she called ‘light’. But what unfolded was far more profound—it led us both through a deep sexual healing, revealing how completely shut down we had been without even realising it. Our connection transformed from hollow lust into something rich, sensate, tantric, and deeply intimate—an experience of utter beauty. She has often said that it was in that space she saw the most divine masculine presence she had ever encountered—the very definition of a man. My self-confidence and inner contentment allowed her to feel, for the first time, that she didn’t need to be anything or do anything to satisfy me. That freedom gave her a sense of safety she had never known before. She had always suffered painful intercourse both with me and previous partners but it miraculously dissapeared and hasn’t happened since! Because of that small miracle, she wondered what else could ‘spirituality’ do and so she came into my world a bit more and started her journey. 

 For the first time I understood and had the experience of what love actually is, the contentment and acceptance of what is, the allowing….

its so loving that it’s not even allowing ( that would be conditional) it’s unconditional, it just ‘is’. She doesn’t need to do or be anything for me to love her so the pressures are all gone and replaced with a powerful strength in my presence that allows her the space to do or be whatever she needs to be and it doesn’t change my love of her. our relationship levelled up and we both noticed it. 
 

My sexual energy became strangely potent and I noticed allot of attention from woman I never had before. it frightened one of them because she was married and couldn’t understand how her mind had wandered. She never returned to cacao ceremony. ( oops 😅)
 

I consider myself polyamorous in the sense that I love and can be intimate when the moment genuinely calls for it—when there’s a deep resonance, and I feel called to welcome someone into my personal space. But it no longer comes from lust. It’s something entirely different now. I experience it as the universe recognising and loving itself through two beings in a moment of complete surrender. It’s utterly beautiful—life meeting itself, and if I were to look back at the end of my life, I’d carry no guilt or shame for loving in that way. I might hold myself accountable if I ever fall into hatred, but I will never apologise for loving.

Because that energy is so potent, I have to be mindful of how I use it. When someone is drawn to me and moves toward intimacy, I first try to share the process I used to love and heal myself. Often, what they’re responding to is the sexual energy, but I try to guide them to turn it inward—to use that spark to discover self-love and inner wholeness. If I see that they’ve entered a state of joy or ecstasy simply from reconnecting with themselves, then I may consider opening that space for intimacy. But if they’re reaching outward to feel loved, needing something from me to fill a void, I know that becoming intimate in that state can create unhealthy attachment and emotional harm. I have to keep watching my own mind too—to stay clear of slipping back into lust—because it no longer aligns with who I’ve become. And I now understand, deeply, how powerful and damaging that kind of unconscious connection can be to someone else.

 

Just to clarify, I don’t actively seek out people to be with. I’m in a happy marriage, and my wife is my chosen partner in this life—the person I walk beside through all the challenges, growth, and shared experiences of a parallel journey. She understands what it means to expand and open to others, because she went through that particular awakening—or activation—right alongside me. It’s given her the freedom to explore her own authentic preferences, knowing she’s held in a space of safety and trust. I don’t judge her for any of it. I don’t possess her—she is not “mine”—so nothing she does for her own joy or self-expression could ever hurt me. That includes explorations with other women, something she once would’ve been too afraid to consider because of the constraints of an uptight family upbringing. Now she’s free to explore those aspects of herself, without fear of losing me.

 

There are lower forms of desire and lust, and for a time, I withdrew from all of it. I was celibate for several years, deeply immersed in meditation. There was a sense of peace and contentment during that period, but in hindsight, I was bypassing life—much like the path often taken in certain Buddhist traditions. I had my transcendent experiences, reached states of God-realisation, and even went beyond that into the void, the singularity, infinity itself. But eventually, I had to return—to come back and face life as a human. Because that’s what this existence is for: to be lived, felt, and integrated. So I do. I open to it fully. It’s part of who I am in this character, in this expression, in this particular ball of energy.

Authentically, I am a deeply sexual and intimate person, and I love that part of myself with all my heart. For me, it has been the closest embodied experience of the divine. If I strip away the mental associations, the labels, the bodily framing of sex, and instead turn inward during the peak of orgasm—toward pure awareness—the experience becomes indistinguishable from the overwhelming spiritual vastness of 5-MeO. It is the divine meeting itself through the body.

I’ve had many psychedelic journeys where it felt like the universe was simply loving itself—pure, boundless, ecstatic. A complete mind-orgasm overload. It’s so overwhelmingly beautiful. So yes, sexual energy is incredibly powerful when it’s truly integrated. But that’s the key—integration. Without it, this energy gets misunderstood, repressed, or misused. That’s why, in the spiritual community, you often see teachers getting caught in scandals or crossing boundaries with students. There’s a lack of understanding of how to hold that energy with awareness and responsibility. It’s not something to be bypassed, denied, or indulged unconsciously—it’s something sacred, to be met with clarity and care.

sorry I went off on a bit of memory lane there. It was a bit long. 

[Adrian colby]

9 hours ago, D2sage said:

Fiddling around with hormones is prolly not a good idea.

"well tolerated" 

There is no cloud out of shape in the sky above.

So why do you think God made the misstake that you were born Man or Woman? I am curious.

I wonder what would happen if someone decide to do the surgery but before they drink a mega pint brewed Ayahuasca - I do wonder if they still will proceed..

I’ve heard this suggestion many times and having spoken to lgbtq supportive psychedelic therapist in New York, no one is coming out of their trips denouncing their condition. 

I’ve been working with psychedelics on myself for years and I’ve never come down off a trip and suddenly decided maybe I’ll reverse all my surgery. It’s never going to happen. I’m perfectly content.
I’ve come back plenty of times realising I’m god but I am also experiencing being a man with a gender disorder… that is a part of this little one’s life this time and there have been plenty beneficial catalysts and lessons provided by it. Although it was very distressing in the beginning, I wouldn’t have changed a thing. 

 

[Adrian colby]

9 hours ago, Scholar said:

There are people who took plenty of psychedelics who will take hormones. If God and his creation is perfection, then the desire of the transsexual is also perfection. His actions to change his body and take hormones are perfection, because all of that cannot be a mistake, given that God made it so.

See how you apply your logic selectively? It is a perversion of God's will, you should be ashamed that you even put him in his mouth given you are insulting him by conflating his intelligence with your ignorance. Thankfully God made it all so in the end he is insulting himself.

I cannot claim to be sure about my intentions before coming into the experience of this life as one of those people but if I were to go with the first thought in my head. 

I came here to experience a life where I am a type of person who is hated and feared in a time of upheaval and unrest in order to overcome, and develop compassion, understanding and love in the face of all of that. I have been treated badly by many people but I still love. It’s a hard position to be in but not as adverse as a person trying to love everyone while being tortured to death. 
maybe when I’m more developed I will come back and live that life. For now, this one is hard enough but very beneficial for self growth. It is also a lesson for others to develop compassion and understanding towards my difference to see it’s all one underneath. 
❤️🙏

[Elliott]

9 hours ago, D2sage said:

@Elliott

This would never hold in court.

Foods like flaxseed or veggies may tweak estrogen levels by fractions. Hormone blockers suppress production by 90%+. One ripple, the other is a tsunami. Its like comparing a band-aid to surgery.

Don't fuck with God.

Men and women can have the exact same level of estrogen and testosterone actually, both sexes have both hormones. Your argument against hormone therapy won't hold up in court either so what's your point? Non trans children have taken puberty blockers for decades, for health, not to transition. You're going to hell, repent! And quit eating!

[D2sage]

6 hours ago, Elliott said:

You're going to hell

No I am already in Heaven. Heaven is a place on earth.

The most common negative side effects associated with hormone blockers (e.g., GnRH agonists/antagonists) include:

• Bone Health Issues: Reduced bone mineral density, increasing the risk of osteoporosis or fractures, particularly with prolonged use.
• Hot Flashes/Night Sweats: Common due to hormonal fluctuations, similar to menopausal symptoms.
• Mood Changes: Depression, anxiety, irritability, or emotional instability.
• Fatigue: Generalized tiredness or low energy levels.
• Headaches: Frequent or persistent headaches.
• Weight Changes: Altered body composition or weight gain.
• Injection Site Reactions: Pain, redness, or swelling (for injectable forms).
• Delayed Growth in Adolescents: Potential impact on height if puberty is paused long-term.
• Fertility Concerns: Possible temporary or long-term effects on reproductive capacity.
• Sexual Dysfunction: Low libido, erectile dysfunction (in males), or vaginal dryness (in females).

Quite hellisch side effecets people are experiencing. 

Seems, in fact, that hormone-blocker consumers are going to hell more. Hell is living with Sexual Dysfuction, or Fatigue... Thats hell. YOu dont go to hell for talking about hormone blockers- 

Have it ever crossed your mind that hormone blockers alone are a huge factor why people kill themselves.

 

Edited Tuesday at 07:09 AM by D2sage

[Adrian colby]

3 hours ago, D2sage said:

No I am already in Heaven. Heaven is a place on earth.

The most common negative side effects associated with hormone blockers (e.g., GnRH agonists/antagonists) include:

• Bone Health Issues: Reduced bone mineral density, increasing the risk of osteoporosis or fractures, particularly with prolonged use.
• Hot Flashes/Night Sweats: Common due to hormonal fluctuations, similar to menopausal symptoms.
• Mood Changes: Depression, anxiety, irritability, or emotional instability.
• Fatigue: Generalized tiredness or low energy levels.
• Headaches: Frequent or persistent headaches.
• Weight Changes: Altered body composition or weight gain.
• Injection Site Reactions: Pain, redness, or swelling (for injectable forms).
• Delayed Growth in Adolescents: Potential impact on height if puberty is paused long-term.
• Fertility Concerns: Possible temporary or long-term effects on reproductive capacity.
• Sexual Dysfunction: Low libido, erectile dysfunction (in males), or vaginal dryness (in females).

Quite hellisch side effecets people are experiencing. 

Seems, in fact, that hormone-blocker consumers are going to hell more. Hell is living with Sexual Dysfuction, or Fatigue... Thats hell. YOu dont go to hell for talking about hormone blockers- 

Have it ever crossed your mind that hormone blockers alone are a huge factor why people kill themselves.

 

I understand that when you refer to “hell,” you’re describing a state of internal suffering—a kind of separation from peace, presence, or alignment with one’s true self. And yes, many people who live with dysphoria or identity conflict can absolutely experience that kind of existential distress.

 

But it’s important to consider that for many transgender individuals, especially youth, that state of disconnection is present before they receive medical intervention—not because of it. Puberty blockers are prescribed to create space for alignment: to pause the distress of a body changing in the wrong direction and allow a more integrated sense of self to emerge.

 

The side effects you listed aren’t being ignored—but without proper context, they can be misleading. When used appropriately and under medical supervision, these treatments often lessen the kind of suffering you’re describing, not increase it.

 

Several studies support this:

• Turban et al. (2020, Pediatrics): Transgender adults who accessed puberty blockers during adolescence had significantly lower odds of suicidal ideation.

• de Vries et al. (2014, Pediatrics): Adolescents who received blockers and later gender-affirming care showed psychological functioning equal to or better than peers in the general population.

• The Trevor Project (2022): Trans youth who received gender-affirming care—including blockers—reported lower rates of depression and suicide attempts.

 

So if we’re talking about “hell” as a metaphor for psychological or spiritual disconnection, then we also have to talk about what brings people out of that state. For some, it’s presence. For others, it’s healing. For many trans youth, it’s the ability to have their inner self seen, respected, and aligned with the body they live in. Denying that path often prolongs disconnection and suffering—not the treatment itself.

 

I’m sorry, but what you’ve said here is, in places, incorrect and out of context.

 

The side effects you’ve listed are not common and generally only occur when blockers are used improperly or without oversight. Blockers have been safely used for decades to treat children with precocious puberty, and the outcomes have been overwhelmingly positive and beneficial. It’s no different for trans youth when properly managed.

 

This fear-based narrative around blockers was started by people who don’t understand the treatment or the condition. In the clinic I attended, DEXA scans were mandatory, and among 200 patients, only those over 40 showed any signs of bone density reduction. In my own case, my bone density increased after starting hormone therapy tailored to my specific needs.

 

Yes, the injections hurt—but that’s the nature of my condition. I can’t produce the necessary hormones, and I need them to maintain my health. That’s not suffering. I could experience physical pain and still not suffer. Suffering, in the deeper sense, is mental anguish—a state of resistance or disconnection from reality. Pain and suffering are not the same, and it’s important to distinguish between physical sensations and emotional resistance.

 

While some of the points you listed do reflect possible experiences, many are taken out of context, and others are simply incorrect:

• Hot flashes don’t occur in children starting blockers at puberty onset.

• Mood changes in children most often involve reduced anxiety, not increased distress.

• Fatigue is typically circumstantial and varies per individual—it is not a common or inherent effect of blockers.

• Headaches are a side effect of almost every medication, and often stem from stress, not the drug itself.

• Weight changes don’t happen with blockers—they occur with hormone replacement, as natural fat and muscle redistribution takes place. That’s biology, not a side effect.

• Injection pain is common with any injectable medication—even saline. It’s not unique to blockers.

• Delayed growth is the intended effect—it’s what blockers are designed to do.

• Fertility concerns are misunderstood—many people with gender disorders already experience compromised fertility. And not everyone wants, can, or needs to reproduce.

• Sexual dysfunction is irrelevant in prepubescent individuals who are not sexually active. In adults, the condition itself—not the treatment—is often the source of dysfunction.

 

Blockers are primarily used to reduce distress and anxiety in trans youth by buying time to make informed decisions about their future. As mentioned in earlier comments, they are rarely prescribed for more than two years.

 

The effects you described largely pertain to adults, especially male-to-female trans people post-puberty, who may use blockers or anti-androgens to safely initiate HRT. For these individuals, suppressing androgens is a necessary step to prevent adverse cardiovascular events.

 

Some of what you described as “negative side effects” are, in fact, the desired and therapeutic outcomes of treatment. Calling those “side effects” is like calling reduced inflammation a side effect of ibuprofen.

 

This isn’t about ignoring suffering—it’s about treating it at the root, with compassion, informed choice, and the tools that bring people back into harmony with themselves.

You seem to be greatly misinformed. 
 

when you look up information like this, remember, you are not an expert and can take it completely out of context. Be careful what way you see and use your information and it’s always a good idea to cross reference it against someone’s direct experience of it. 
I can do that for you and if you read my other responses you will see I am not suffering. 

Edited Tuesday at 09:36 AM by Adrian colby

[PurpleTree]

I mean I don’t really care.

Do what you want. I can still be your friend.

But don’t make an ideology out of it and don’t force me to use very specific language.

[Breakingthewall]

13 hours ago, Adrian colby said:

sorry I went off on a bit of memory lane there. It was a bit long

@Adrian colby

Was a great reading. The issue of sexuality is very profound. Everyone has their own path and process. Basic sexuality is very basic, and deep sexuality has the depth of life.

Three years ago, while having sex, I felt it was a divine act, in which the entire universe made love and conceived the existence of a new being. It was like a psychedelic trip. I remember seeing colored lines converging in my partner's head, and when she had an orgasm, it was like a cosmic explosion. This had a strange effect. From that day on, I couldn't have sex as a game again. I broke off the relationship with that girl. I really liked her, but it seemed wrong to continue. Since then, I've had very little sex, and when I have, it's left me with a negative feeling. I used to be extremely sexual, and I still am, but it seems wrong to have sex unless it's to conceive a life. It's a problem because I don't plan on having children, but that's the way it is. I know that if I have sex with someone with whom there is no complete connection, it will seem like a nauseating act, when before I could do it with any random person. That's life, you can't choose what is going to happen next. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

I can't really understand what these people who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria are going through. It just never even occurred to me to question my expression of being a dude, or the fact that I'm a dude, etc. But it seems to be, to put it kinda offensively, just a prenatal mess-up in brain development and hormonal levels in these individuals. And it seems to me that all this discourse about "gender identity" is just a projection of these people's troubled psyche - it's like they're projecting their issues onto us, the normal, regular majority, and even categorizing us into newly created boxes such as "cis man," "cis woman," and shit like that. It's almost like they want us to experience the same kind of problems they're experiencing internally in their own minds. But what they don't realize is that this topic was basically non-existent until people like them brought it up (and rich elites used it as one of the main topics of culture war distractions, to divert attention from real problems). You know, I never had to have that internal monologue, and I'm pretty sure most people never had to either—yet the majority chose to treat this problem as if it were one of the most important issues they were facing. Let the mentally ill people find the help they need, sure, be compassionate towards them, sure, hell, even call them by their own pronouns if you feel like it, but don't make it a political issue. That should be common sense

 

[Adrian colby]

52 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Adrian colby

Was a great reading. The issue of sexuality is very profound. Everyone has their own path and process. Basic sexuality is very basic, and deep sexuality has the depth of life.

Three years ago, while having sex, I felt it was a divine act, in which the entire universe made love and conceived the existence of a new being. It was like a psychedelic trip. I remember seeing colored lines converging in my partner's head, and when she had an orgasm, it was like a cosmic explosion. This had a strange effect. From that day on, I couldn't have sex as a game again. I broke off the relationship with that girl. I really liked her, but it seemed wrong to continue. Since then, I've had very little sex, and when I have, it's left me with a negative feeling. I used to be extremely sexual, and I still am, but it seems wrong to have sex unless it's to conceive a life. It's a problem because I don't plan on having children, but that's the way it is. I know that if I have sex with someone with whom there is no complete connection, it will seem like a nauseating act, when before I could do it with any random person. That's life, you can't choose what is going to happen next. 

It’s amazing the many ways it can see itself. The stories and narratives it creates through the meanings imposed on the experiences it has that cause all the profound insights. Each individually significant for the one experiencing it alongside being contradictory to another one’s experience. Isn’t it wonderful ❤️🙏

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I can't really understand what these people who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria are going through. It just never even occurred to me to question my expression of being a dude, or the fact that I'm a dude, etc. But it seems to be, to put it kinda offensively, just a prenatal mess-up in brain development and hormonal levels in these individuals. And it seems to me that all this discourse about "gender identity" is just a projection of these people's troubled psyche - it's like they're projecting their issues onto us, the normal, regular majority, and even categorizing us into newly created boxes such as "cis man," "cis woman," and shit like that. It's almost like they want us to experience the same kind of problems they're experiencing internally in their own minds. But what they don't realize is that this topic was basically non-existent until people like them brought it up (and rich elites used it as one of the main topics of culture war distractions, to divert attention from real problems). You know, I never had to have that internal monologue, and I'm pretty sure most people never had to either—yet the majority chose to treat this problem as if it were one of the most important issues they were facing. Let the mentally ill people find the help they need, sure, be compassionate towards them, sure, hell, even call them by their own pronouns if you feel like it, but don't make it a political issue. That should be common sense

 

The people suggesting all they don't like is the politics, you, are the ones derailing a thread with politics that is not about politics.

[Adrian colby]

It might also be wise to step into another or higher perspective of looking at this or any other situation. While looking at the science or ‘components’ involved and how they work together, we loose sight of what ‘it’ is holistically. Does anyone remember Leo’s frog in a blender analogy?

when we study something we are taking it further and further apart to see its components and how they work together. It gives you a ‘how’ in separated forms but still doesn’t answer ‘what’ and in the process looses the what altogether. By the time you take it apart and understand components, it is no longer the holistic experience of being.
 

You see the arguments taking place in here about narratives and justifications… myself included, leads to assumptions about the beings existence when we have lost sight of the beings personal experience. You see allot of assumptions contrastive with a drastically different direct experience. 
 

there are things in this life that I will never experience but there are people who will. My only access to what that might be like is to ask them but not pass a judgment on whether that’s right or wrong. I’m not experiencing it so it’s probably wrong for me but that doesn’t mean it is wrong for the other person too. Their experience, insight and sometimes profound meanings they derive from their own experience and how it is known in contrast to others experience, is part of the holism that is lost when we ourselves get lost in our speculations about it. 

 

you cannot see the cause of being which leads to all of life and form being a mystery in itself. Just existing for itself to experience itself and create meaning for itself and its own purpose while it is here. Sometimes that meaning is automated and conditioned other times it is sovereign, conscious and directed. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

The people suggesting all they don't like is the politics, you, are the ones derailing a thread with politics that is not about politics.

Ehm... maybe you should take a second look at the title of this subforum. LUL

The general topic of transgenderism is one of the reasons why populist politicians such as Trump keep winning. So yeah, I'd say this is pretty political

[Elliott]

20 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Ehm... maybe you should take a second look at the title of this subforum. LUL

The general topic of transgenderism is one of the reasons why populist politicians such as Trump keep winning. So yeah, I'd say this is pretty political

This thread, read the OP, is not about politics, Conservatards just keep dragging politics into it.

Edited Tuesday at 05:07 PM by Elliott

[Yimpa]

30 minutes ago, Elliott said:

This thread, read the OP, is not about politics

He meant that the subforum this topic is in is Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events.

Maybe it should be in the Dating, Sexuality, Relationships, Family.

Although, conservatives will claim it has to do with Mental Health, Serious Emotional Issues.

Or maybe we are all Wrong.  

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

He meant that the subforum this topic is in is Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events.

Maybe it should be in the Dating, Sexuality, Relationships, Family.

Although, conservatives will claim it has to do with Mental Health, Serious Emotional Issues.

Or maybe we are all Wrong.  

I think it fits under Society, Current Events.

Edited Tuesday at 05:49 PM by Elliott

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Well, I see the word 'politics' mentioned three times in that headline and subheading, so I have the legal right to talk about politics here - at least until the topic gets moved elsewhere. Checkmate, wokies

Edited Tuesday at 06:17 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Jodistrict]

The spiritual teacher Maharishika talks about transgenderism and its effect on society.