Understanding transgenderism.

[Adrian colby]

9 hours ago, Yimpa said:

@Adrian colby Nice, you should write a book on your journey. I’d be your first buyer AND you can sign my book! 

I’d have difficulty choosing which part of the journey to choose to write about. There’s a book in the deep dives of each part. The experience of a journey through what is sex and gender from a first hand point of view contrasting it against what is around, is very different from the journey through awakening and transcendence when none of that previous stuff exists in my thoughts or current experience. It becomes a memory, a thought with no existence other than that in the present moment. 
 

I have difficulty compressing what I’m trying to say into a short paragraph and even greater difficulty with language being limited , restrictive anx I affective as time goes on and there’s nothing expansive enough other than maybe music or images to communicate something more effectively. 
 

it starts to get poetic, artistic and expressive from that point on and I find I speak about it less ( intermittent bouts of text vomit from time to time but that is becoming less frequent)

if I ever write a book you’ll be the first to know 😉

[Adrian colby]

8 hours ago, integral said:

@Adrian colby 

When you started taking HRT how did your perception of yourself change? Because you're suggesting that it's an issue with the neurotransmitter being blocked so after that is treated did you suddenly feel comfortable in your body again? (not including Awakenings were you accepted yourself (transcended gender) and stopped conforming to society expectations of you)

It didn’t change my identification as a human experience and it didn’t stop me proceeding with full surgical correction. It felt like going from blockage or restriction to firing on all cilinders. ( mood improvement-stabilisation , cognitive clarity) it was more like I didn’t have the right ratio of steroid to regulate properly so it was nothing to do with body acceptance at the time. It seriously reduced the levels of anxiety over the condition for a time and had the greatest impact on my outward appearance but it didn’t satisfy the urge to surgically align the body. 
 

the same thing is reported in men who have gonadal disgenesis( under developed testis) or xxy syndrome ( they are often unaware of it until they get a test result with low testosterone levels and it’s discovered they actually have a dsd. They report constant low mood , depression struggles and brain fog making it hard to function. I can sympathise with that as my cognition before HRT was absolutely dire. The doctors who deal with those cases describe it as brain starvation. We’re designed to run on a ratio of sex steroid appropriate to our receptor makeup and if the ratio is not correct, the receptors don’t regulate everything properly. 

it doesn’t agree with some people but it worked perfectly for me. My skull did change shape so my neurology certainly changed and developed further. It had the potential to go that way but because I was born with the female range of gonads, I wasn’t getting what I needed.

i had under developed ovaries one with large tumours on it so my hormone production was not appropriate either way. They tried to align me with female first by putting me on female hormone replacement and I reacted so badly I ended up on a psyche ward after trying to kill myself. 
 

we all accept our body to an extent but even those without gender disorder strive for a personal ideal. It will never be perfect so I enjoy what I have now which in Fairness is pretty satisfactory. I have no bodily alements to complain about and quite healthy/ immune efficient ( Its very rare for me to get a cold or flu now) I do have to be honest, self love and acceptance didn’t truly come into play till long after awakening but that was through the dynamics of relationship where I was projecting need and desire outward in an expectation it would be provided by someone else. It tied in with social conditioning and expectations of what a man is meant to be leading to feelings of inadequacy and projection turning to blaming a partner for lack of affection ( all self sabotage of course and a lot of men do this ). When I caught myself doing that during a bout of introspection and real world practice to find out why the relationship wasn’t harmonious, I suddenly realised the energy projected out would be better served turned inward and used to heal myself through self love and acceptance of the self. That process developed a never before sense of self confidence and a heart opening experience that made me so content in myself that I didn’t need another person to satisfy me. The love was all giving and not grasping and I found more people attracted toward me for I was not taking or expecting anything of them making them feel safe, respected and genuinely loved . The confidence and acceptance in one’s self is the masculinity and femininity we all seek ourselves to become. We have both but need to love both. 

[Adrian colby]

8 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

@Adrian colbyBeautiful. You expressed that very well, imo, and you sound pretty grounded. It's so nice to see someone speak with such eloquence on such delicate matters and seem unbothered by the changing world. Reading that was very inspiring and could set an example for others going through the same thing or similar.

Thankyou for your words beautiful being. 
 

I have the ability to step outside and view it from the third person but it wasn’t always the case. If it hadn’t catalysed a series of awakening I would still be classed amongst the angry, reactionary, victim mentality crowd. 
 

the difference is that while I recognise them, I don’t dismiss them even if I don’t agree with their behaviour rather like anything or anyone else, I try to pick it apart and understand how it has formed in the first place so I integrate it and transcend it rather than fly from one extreme to another. I would consider it bypassing otherwise but allot of these people are in such a survival mode stuck in a mind trap that there really is no talking to them till they hit rock bottom and have to change, or die.

 

in my retreats I tend to tackle the emotions first before going near any spirituality but that is the same regardless of what type of person comes to me. They are all fractals of consciousness so I will love and accept them as I was felt loved and accepted when I encountered infinity. The more I develop the more love realisations I have. 
 

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[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Adrian colby said:

Thankyou for your words beautiful being. 
 

I have the ability to step outside and view it from the third person but it wasn’t always the case. If it hadn’t catalysed a series of awakening I would still be classed amongst the angry, reactionary, victim mentality crowd. 
 

the difference is that while I recognise them, I don’t dismiss them even if I don’t agree with their behaviour rather like anything or anyone else, I try to pick it apart and understand how it has formed in the first place so I integrate it and transcend it rather than fly from one extreme to another. I would consider it bypassing otherwise but allot of these people are in such a survival mode stuck in a mind trap that there really is no talking to them till they hit rock bottom and have to change, or die.

 

in my retreats I tend to tackle the emotions first before going near any spirituality but that is the same regardless of what type of person comes to me. They are all fractals of consciousness so I will love and accept them as I was felt loved and accepted when I encountered infinity. The more I develop the more love realisations I have. 
 

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Nice. This is how we mature Spiritually. Good example. ❤️

[Elliott]

8 hours ago, Apparition of Jack said:

Honestly my take on these things is that I’ll never understand why people care so much about society’s opinions. Maybe it’s because I’m a straight male but I feel like even if I was gay, trans, whatever, I’d just accept that and not really care if other people don’t “get it.”

 It I was born with a penis but then had it removed and filled myself with hormones, I honestly wouldn’t surprise me that most people wouldn’t really know what the fuck I was doing. That’s incredibly fringe behaviour and accepting that you live in a collective context makes life like 97% easier. Of course, if someone was being outright dangerous towards me I’d tell them to fuck off and demand something be done, but at the same time I wouldn’t just focus on that as if that’s all that defined my identity (also risk is an inherent part of life for all humans so there’s that too🤷‍♀️ )

I mean fuck, I know it’s not the same as transgenderism but I sometimes get jealous of drag queens just for how much fucking *fun* they have. Why does everything have to be so goddamn miserable with these people?

In some places it's illegal. In the u.s. a lot of states have banned hormone treatment for under 18, and they're trying to ban it for everyone.

A user on this forum was opposing it at the beginning of this thread, he posted hormone levels.

I think I'm going to call this transgenderism issue 'hormone treatment', do you see any issue with that? I see why you would take issue with "trans", you haven't changed, and you're not a third gender. I'm just a layman, but I think words can make a difference.

Edited yesterday at 02:32 PM by Elliott

[gettoefl]

20 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I mean that absorbs all the energy of the person who is trans, it's very hard for them

Chasing the preferred gender is all consuming for most people. To become the gender you prefer means you have what you seek in the mirror (and the boudoir of course) with all its allurement, magnificence and potentiality. A new wardrobe and a few surgeries if desired and voila you have solved the fundamental problem of humanity. Now that gender no longer has power over you. You are what you love and you can reap all the benefits.

Edited yesterday at 03:22 PM by gettoefl

[D2sage]

Isnt it lack of self-love? 

"More than 40% of transgender adults in the US have attempted suicide"

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/

"Nearly one-third of transgender individuals reported hazardous drinking (28%) and problematic drug use (31%)"

"Transgender nonbinary people were four times more likely to engage in hazardous drinking compared to transgender women."

"The majority (82%) of transgender people have accessed formal mental health care"

These findings makes you wonder.

Edited yesterday at 05:33 PM by D2sage

[Schizophonia]

7 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Isnt it lack of self-love? 

"More than 40% of transgender adults in the US have attempted suicide"

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/

 

 

They will say it's the fault of persecution, but there is a big correlation between gender dysphoria and mental issues specially psychosis; Autism too.

Btw i knew a trans men (ftm) when i was in high school; "He" suffered from schizophrenia, had various strange kinks, and had very weird parents.

Edited yesterday at 05:35 PM by Schizophonia

[Yimpa]

16 minutes ago, D2sage said:

"The majority (82%) of transgender people have accessed formal mental health care"

Most mental health professionals are completely ignorant about how neurodiversity works, in fact they deny its existence. It’s much easier to label them as mentally ill and call it a day. 

They’re stuck in a system that is ill itself. 

[Elliott]

37 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Isnt it lack of self-love? 

"More than 40% of transgender adults in the US have attempted suicide"

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/

"Nearly one-third of transgender individuals reported hazardous drinking (28%) and problematic drug use (31%)"

"Transgender nonbinary people were four times more likely to engage in hazardous drinking compared to transgender women."

"The majority (82%) of transgender people have accessed formal mental health care"

These findings makes you wonder.

Wouldn't that also mean people like Joe Rogan taking testosterone are just not self loving enough.

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:05 PM by Elliott

[Schizophonia]

21 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Most mental health professionals are completely ignorant about how neurodiversity works, in fact they deny its existence. It’s much easier to label them as mentally ill and call it a day. 

They’re stuck in a system that is ill itself. 

Regardless of how we classify and consider widespread psychic phenomena, we agree that they should never be used to harm anyone.

[D2sage]

Even if they are ignorant, we cant ignore the fact that there is such a high suicide rate among trans and also doing self harming behaviour.

Nothing screams I love you body, more than taking hazardous substances and attempting suicide.

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Wouldn't that also mean people like Joe Rogan taking testosterone are just not self loving enough.

 

Precisely, maybe? If you take body-altering substances to begin with, means you are not happy with the muscles you already got.

Taking testosterone can cause sleep disorders and stimulate the growth of the prostate.

Its all self-sabotage to your own body.

[Elliott]

13 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Even if they are ignorant, we cant ignore the fact that there is such a high suicide rate among trans and also doing self harming behaviour.

Nothing screams I love you body, more than taking hazardous substances and attempting suicide.

Precisely, maybe? If you take body-altering substances to begin with, means you are not happy with the muscles you already got.

Taking testosterone can cause sleep disorders and stimulate the growth of the prostate.

Its all self-sabotage to your own body.

He doesn't take it for muscles, he takes it to feel okay. I'm not talking about steroids, he's naturally low in testosterone.

 

Edited yesterday at 06:33 PM by Elliott

[D2sage]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

He doesn't take it for muscles, he takes it to feel okay. I'm not talking about steroids.

Right. And santa clause is comming down my chimney next christmas to choke to death on my soot.

Maybe he does for the mood or sex drive. Him taking testosterone doesnt justify that transgender people are mostly not self-loving.

If they were self-loving indivuiduals then there wouldnt be such a high suicide rate among with substance abuse.

How is this not obvious? If you want to die it means you cant stand yourself (you dont love yourself)

Its all self-sabotage in reality. 

Edited yesterday at 06:36 PM by D2sage

[Elliott]

9 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Right. And santa clause is comming down my chimney next christmas and choke to death on my soot.

Maybe he does for the mood or sex drive. Him taking testosterone doesnt justify that transgender people are mostly not self-loving.

If they were self-loving indivuiduals then there wouldnt be such a high suicide rate among with substance abuse.

How is this not obvious? If you want to die it means you cant stand yourself (you dont love yourself)

 

 

Low testosterone causes depression and anxiety. Rogan takes testosterone to stay in normal range, he's low in testosterone without it.

 

You're just talking out of your ass.

Edited yesterday at 06:42 PM by Elliott

[D2sage]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

 

You're just talking out of your ass.

I have a firm, tanned ass to begin with <3 

No, but testosterone and transgenderism is not the same. Mabe he love himself, probably does. But that wont change the fact that trans people are commiting suicide from left to right and taking ilicit, harmful drugs. I did not made up this, its the reality we live in. Look at the data. It shows clearly whats going on among these individuals. Its sad.

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, D2sage said:

I have a firm, tanned ass to begin with <3 

No, but testosterone and transgenderism is not the same. Mabe he love himself, probably does. But that wont change the fact that trans people are commiting suicide from left to right and taking ilicit, harmful drugs. I did not made up this, its the reality we live in. Look at the data. It shows clearly whats going on among these individuals. Its sad.

Hormone imbalances cause depression and anxiety, it's why people take testosterone for example. Depression and anxiety cause suicide and substance abuse. Transgenderism = hormone therapy, testosterone.

Edited yesterday at 06:49 PM by Elliott

[Yimpa]

If there’s one thing I did kill, it was my testosterone levels  

[D2sage]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

 Depression and anxiety cause suicide. Transgenderism is hormone therapy, testostetone.

Then if testo can help with depression and anxiety, why is it still such an abnormal high suicide rate among trans? If these disorders causes suicide.

Why are these people not happy then after all the "theraphy" from body-altering substances? They even continue to take harmful, hazardous drugs because they are still not happy, in fact, many regret that they have permannently changed their sex by surgery. 

"Among transgender adults, 44% reported recent suicidal ideation" <--- this fact doesnt seem like the theraphy is working.

Edited yesterday at 07:01 PM by D2sage

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Then if testo can help with depression and anxiety, why is it still such an abnormal high suicide rate among trans? If these disorders causes suicide.

Why are these people not happy then after all the "theraphy" from body-altering substances? They even continue to take harmful, hazardous drugs because they are still not happy, in fact, many regret that they have permannently changed their sex by surgery. 

"Among transgender adults, 44% reported recent suicidal ideation" <--- this fact doesnt seem like the theraphy is working.

Suicide rates are lower with therapy, transgender doesn't mean they receive therapy, it's illegal even some places, let alone expensive.