1989 interview, non-binary

[Elliott]

 

[Yimpa]

@Elliott Thank you for sharing! 

[Nemra]

It's interesting to see how much confusing that was for people back then.

[Schizophonia]

That makes no sense.

 

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

That makes no sense.

 

How so?

[Yimpa]

 

[Yimpa]

Their true identity here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Sinclair_(activist)

[Hojo]

Isnt it complicated? Why would you do it?

'I did not choose to exist,finding that I exist I determine that its a good thing I exist(LIE). I like being who I am I, why would I try to be someone else'
Cuts penis off.

Can you hear the schizophrenia? The demons?

This isnt an interview its an interrogation and bullying.

Edited Friday at 03:51 AM by Hojo

[Yimpa]

It has a profoundly deeper understanding of gender than the Leo sex expert. 

(see part 3)

Edited Friday at 03:54 AM by Yimpa

[Schizophonia]

13 hours ago, Elliott said:

How so?

There is a woman if there is two X chromosomes, and if XY, the ovaries and clitoris develop externally and give rise to the penis and testicles, and the endocrine balance generated by the testicles changes.
This is all that defines sex.

Now, there are all sorts of personalities in men and women depending on various factors (perinatal exposure to certain hormones, post-adolescence exposure, genes directly conditioning the number and structure of new fibers, myelin, etc. or conditioning certain enzymes influencing the functioning of the CNS)
There is a small minority of women with unusually "masculine" traits and vice versa.

Not only is gender theory narcissistic, but it's actually sexist because you're declaring and believing that a man who is, say, very gentle and feminine isn't a real man and should mutilate himself.
It's still the same religious dichotomy of body and mind, in fact, except that we want to mutilate the body instead of the mind.

Edited Friday at 10:33 AM by Schizophonia

[integral]

It’s all body dysmorphia + identity crisis + low self-esteem.

When I look in the mirror I don’t even know what I’m looking at, I couldn’t care less.

Who is that in the mirror? Looks like an alien.

I couldn’t care less what’s in between my legs.

If I switched bodies with a woman Permanently I would just own it 💯

This is how healthy people function they’re not fighting what they see in the mirror.

Edited Friday at 11:58 AM by integral

[integral]

If you care or spend one second of your day unhappy about your identity you’re lost in low self-esteem problems.

it’s like men that are insecure that they’re short so they do surgery.

Short people identifying as tall people, identity crisis

Edited Friday at 12:26 PM by integral

[integral]

They’re all deeply uncomfortable in their own skin, resulting in gender confusion. Postmodernists meet low self-esteem = non-binary

There are NO GENDERS

It’s all identity games

When you grow up, you lose your gender

You're a bundle of traits along a masculine and feminine Spectrum

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At higher developmental stages, individuals transcend the need to identify with gender categories altogether. They simply recognize themselves as unique beings with various characteristics along the masculine-feminine spectrum.

Gender identification often stems from identity struggles and low self-esteem. Truly developed individuals accept their unique makeup of traits without needing to categorize or label themselves. They exist beyond gender, seeing it as merely an identity game rather than an essential aspect of self.

From this perspective, gender doesn't exist as a fundamental category - only a spectrum of masculine and feminine traits that each person embodies in their unique way.

 

Edited Friday at 02:28 PM by integral

[Nemra]

46 minutes ago, integral said:

Postmodernists meet low self-esteem = non-binary

Nonsense.

[Elliott]

5 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

There is a woman if there is two X chromosomes, and if XY, the ovaries and clitoris develop externally and give rise to the penis and testicles, and the endocrine balance generated by the testicles changes.
This is all that defines sex.

Now, there are all sorts of personalities in men and women depending on various factors (perinatal exposure to certain hormones, post-adolescence exposure, genes directly conditioning the number and structure of new fibers, myelin, etc. or conditioning certain enzymes influencing the functioning of the CNS)
There is a small minority of women with unusually "masculine" traits and vice versa.

Not only is gender theory narcissistic, but it's actually sexist because you're declaring and believing that a man who is, say, very gentle and feminine isn't a real man and should mutilate himself.
It's still the same religious dichotomy of body and mind, in fact, except that we want to mutilate the body instead of the mind.

Obviously we don't test chromosomes on people before we call them ma'am or sir.

 

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com › ... › xx-male-syndrome

XX Male Syndrome - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

Female pseudohermaphroditism is characterized by male or ambiguous genitalia coupled with a female karyotype (46, XX). The XX male

 

 

And I assume you've never tried womens deodorant or underwear, wear makeup, dresses, wear a sports bra when you go without a shirt, aren't a ballerina.

 

Do you believe males and females are often treated different from each other? I assume so, therefore is it so ridiculous to want to be a different gender, to be treated that different way? The video is not about surgery or hormones, I'm not sure why you conflate that here.

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Obviously we don't test chromosomes on people before we call them ma'am or sir.

 

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com › ... › xx-male-syndrome

XX Male Syndrome - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

Female pseudohermaphroditism is characterized by male or ambiguous genitalia coupled with a female karyotype (46, XX). The XX male

There is a tiny fraction of men who have male genitalia due to a certain genetic mutation despite the absence of the Y chromosome.
What does that matter? It's not a debate about intersex people or something like that, but about gender dysphoria.

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And I assume you've never tried womens deodorant or underwear, wear makeup, dresses, wear a sports bra when you go without a shirt, aren't a ballerina.

No, because it makes no sense to wear women's underwear when you're a man, and vice versa.
Whether for practical reasons or for seduction.

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Do you believe males and females are often treated different from each other?

No, women are more likely to be flirted with than flirted with, due to differences in libido and fear.
What do you think will happen if you transform into the opposite sex? Everyone is in the same boat and has to work to pay their bills, has their hobbies, their insecurities which are very often the same for each gender etcetc.

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I assume so, therefore is it so ridiculous to want to be a different gender, to be treated that different way? The video is not about surgery or hormones, I'm not sure why you conflate that here.

This is the logical continuation.

 

Edited Friday at 05:30 PM by Schizophonia

[Elliott]

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

There is a tiny fraction of men who have male genitalia due to a certain genetic mutation despite the absence of the Y chromosome.
What does that matter? It's not a debate about intersex people or something like that, but about gender dysphoria.

That wasn't the point. Are people treated differently by how they look, whichever gender? They're certainly not treated based on a chromosome test.

https://sl.bing.net/kdcBKeCUfV6

This person was born XY, do you think people are nicer to them when they are looking for sex than if they stayed a man? Or when they run late for something, when they can't decide on an outfit, when they don't want to help with physical or dirty work?

 

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

No, because it makes no sense to wear women's underwear when you're a man, and vice versa.
Whether for practical reasons or for seduction.

Does it make sense to wear makeup or dresses as a woman as opposed to being a man, or being a ballerina, wearing a sports bra when shirtless even if you have no boobs as a woman?

What about overweight men, should they not wear bras?

 

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

No, women are more likely to be flirted with than flirted with, due to differences in libido and fear.

What about if their car breaks down and they're hitchhiking, are they treated the same. Their tire needs changed on the side of the road, someone stole their purse/wallet and they need money for a cab. What about when they get their car worked on at the mechanic, do women get taken advantage of? 

How about, when someone is chosen for a supervisory job role, or president, mayor?

[Schizophonia]

18 minutes ago, Elliott said:

That wasn't the point. Are people treated differently by how they look, whichever gender? They're certainly not treated based on a chromosome test.

https://sl.bing.net/kdcBKeCUfV6

This person was born XY, do you think people are nicer to them when they are looking for sex than if they stayed a man? Or when they run late for something, when they can't decide on an outfit, when they don't want to help with physical or dirty work?

You're delusional; Women have to work or they end up on the streets. Many "women's" jobs are physically demanding and poorly paid.
As for flirting, not all women get flirted with all the time, and when they do, it doesn't mean the person in question is worth it. You also have to deal with the risk of sexual assault.

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Does it make sense to wear makeup or dresses as a woman as opposed to being a man, or being a ballerina, wearing a sports bra when shirtless even if you have no boobs as a woman?

You can do it if you think it'll give you points with the opposite sex, as a woman.
But doing all that as a man is pointless, yes.

You can "act like a bimbo" as a man; That's called wearing a tank top or a baggy black jacket, stainless steel jewelry, etc.

 

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What about overweight men, should they not wear bras?

No lol.

Even a large gynecomastia in the world does not exceed an A cup; it will also be less drooping and less sensitive because it is essentially fat.

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What about if their car breaks down and they're hitchhiking, are they treated the same.

The woman might have a slight advantage.
So, you're going to cut off your dicks for stuff like that? lol

As a man, you can work in difficult construction jobs and easily earn several thousand euros a month; Everything is easier professionally when you're a man.
It's also easier to defend yourself.

At worst, if you're truly physically and emotionally fragile, why do you think cutting off your penis is the best solution?
Becoming a woman will just make things worse.

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Their tire needs changed on the side of the road, someone stole their purse/wallet and they need money for a cab. What about when they get their car worked on at the mechanic, do women get taken advantage of? 

How about, when someone is chosen for a supervisory job role, or president, mayor?

yes and yes.

Again, the real question is how do you teleport directly to the most extreme, and what seems to me the most mentally ill and fetishistic solution?

I'm a liberal but I would never push someone to do something like that.

Edited Friday at 06:06 PM by Schizophonia

[Yimpa]

6 hours ago, integral said:

This is how healthy people function they’re not fighting what they see in the mirror.

Fighting what’s in the mirror is actually wise. People are lost in their strong identity of being a human, so they don’t question anything. 

[Elliott]

45 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

You're delusional; Women have to work or they end up on the streets. Many "women's" jobs are physically demanding and poorly paid.
As for flirting, not all women get flirted with all the time, and when they do, it doesn't mean the person in question is worth it. You also have to deal with the risk of sexual assault

 

 

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The woman might have a slight advantage.
So, you're going to cut off your dicks for stuff like that? lol

As a man, you can work in difficult construction jobs and easily earn several thousand euros a month; Everything is easier professionally when you're a man.
It's also easier to defend yourself.

At worst, if you're truly physically and emotionally fragile, why do you think cutting off your penis is the best solution?
Becoming a woman will just make things worse.

Again, we're not talking about surgery or hormones, no physical alteration whatsoever. Did you watch the video?

I'm not suggesting being one gender is better than the other. I'm suggesting there are different ways we are treated socially, as children and adults. And some people have a preference as to which way they're treated.

Take the person in the video, you don't know their gender looking at them, that's their point. Do you think this changes how people treat them, whether they're xx or xy, obviously so

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You can do it if you think it'll give you points with the opposite sex, as a woman.
But doing all that as a man is pointless, yes.

You can "act like a bimbo" as a man; That's called wearing a tank top or a baggy black jacket, stainless steel jewelry, etc.

And that's obviously just socially constructed right? Why do men shave their faces, is that body dysmorphia to you? Cut their hair?

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No lol.

Even a large gynecomastia in the world does not exceed an A cup; it will also be less drooping and less sensitive because it is essentially fat.

yes and yes.

 

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Again, the real question is how do you teleport directly to the most extreme, most addictive, and most mentally ill and fetishistic solution?

I'm a liberal but I would never push someone to do something like that.

Do you smoke, do drugs, alcohol, tatoos, casual sex? Do you believe these harm you?

Edited Friday at 06:50 PM by Elliott