How to realize God without DMT related molecules?

[Yidaki]

I live in a country where DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are illegal , and I spent a night behind the bars for trying to buy a few grams from an online source. I really wanted to experince it first hand. I want to know whether it is really possible to access Truth and realize God if without that "tool". Meditating your way to that realization does not seem to be realistic either. What would you suggest?

Edited April 3 by Yidaki

[Nemra]

You have the following options:

• Research DMT extraction and mushroom cultivation.
• You could save some money and travel to places that are possible to acquire them more easily and safely.

Edited April 3 by Nemra

[Nemra]

It appears that your government is strictly monitoring your actions. So be cautious how you navigate on the internet.

[Oppositionless]

Lots of people on this forum have said shambhavi mahamudra (technique taught by sadhguru in the inner engineering program) is the best substitute for psychedelics .

[Breakingthewall]

Weed is a psychedelic quite strong and it's almost everywhere. I think that weed is stronger than DMT. 5meo is different, it's useful to break energetic blockages, could be a great help. Mushrooms also are very strong and you could learn how to grow them, they are almost in every place 

[Nemra]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Mushrooms also are very strong and you could learn how to grow them, they are almost in every place 

Acquiring the necessary tools and the ingredients is not that easy in countries that are underdeveloped and dogmatic.

11 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Weed is a psychedelic quite strong and it's almost everywhere.

It is highly risky to buy them in those countries.

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Acquiring the necessary tools and the ingredients is not that easy in countries that are underdeveloped and dogmatic.

It is highly risky to buy them in those countries.

That's true , in china, or some Arabs countries that's really difficult 

[Yimpa]

What is driving you towards understanding God despite all of these obstacles, doubts, and instabilities?

[Santiago Ram]

Quote

 

Feel the Eye of God.

Feel the Eye of Infinity.

 

I'm not kidding. I've seen God 3 times with this excercise (repeating it for hours)

[Yidaki]

Thank you all for your answers. I was addicted to weed, and I quit, so it's a no-go for me. Mushrooms deserve my respect, they are very powerful. And I will take a look at this shambhavi mahamudra technique

[Aaron p]

Don't ask anyone on this site for chems, but man you could easily find a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy. Rather than ordering directly, pay someone else to do it. Keep communication about it face to face and only use cash. Should be way safer. Also be mindful if your ready for 5meo, I tried to prematurely and wasn't the right time. You could easily find some drug addicts who have connections they are everywhere and dealers are resourceful...you could ask them if they can get some phenethylamines like 2-CB or mescaline, these are said to be far lighter and nicer than lysergemides (acid) and tryptamines (NN, DPT, 5meo, etc). Tryptamines are very intense, a lot of people say NN-DMT is very difficult to use.

When I start up again soon I'm Gona progress like this shrooms to gently get started again, 2-CB or mescaline, just stick with one of those for a good long time to get myself realllllllyyy comfortable in the extended mystical states, really stabilise there, then start working with 5meo in a few years after I become 20 times stronger. 

Fun note: research suggests it's relatively safe to intelligently combine NN-DMT or 5meo with the likes of diazepam or mdma to reduce fear and intensity. Mdma + NN is slightly more risky, but typically reads only as yellow caution, not organe warning or red danger. Other combos could be beta blockers, phenibut or a small dose of the less trippy version of ketamine (can't remember if it was R or S). 

I personally only tried MD+DMT combo one time...one of the best most beautiful trips of my entire life. But research needs to be done by you yourself, there's still risk. Legal, biological, psychological. Be aware of the >>>dangers<<<.

Also you could move country 

Bonus note: you can tell your doc your experiencing auditory hallucinations and getting anxiety attacks and ask for immediate release olanzapine and boom. It's a trip killer, keep it beside you during all trips and if you start having a very difficult experience take 5mg 

Edited 10 hours ago by Aaron p

[Hojo]

Any psychedelic. Psychedelic effect consciousness when consciousness is effected if you are looking you will see it.

Edited 10 hours ago by Hojo

[integration journey]

Ayahuasca is also an option.