The harsh truth about women -Nietsche

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

All men only want sex. It's women who think of sex as a leverage to gain something else, or additional besides pleasure from the act

So yeah that's a lie if you keep saying you want something else from women

Edited Friday at 01:08 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[meta_male]

21 hours ago, nerdspeak said:

Not really, when you get a bit older and you can’t rely on your parents or peer group for support or backup, having a partner provides psychological comfort. 
 

It’s conditional and to an extent an illusion, but let’s say I get sick and can’t work for a relatively short period, like 1-2 months. My gf would take care of me or help me.

If I get that old, then help me God. How many people are in relationships for psychological comfort, even when they’re not sick per se? I’ve yet to find someone who isn’t. And I’ve yet to find a woman who’s faced the challenge of being content on her own. At this point in life, I couldn’t feel comfort in seeking support from a relationship, knowing they're mostly an unconscious act. The last time I was sick, my girlfriend made me feel even more sick, so much that I had to break up. Women aren’t naturally empathetic, they’re just really good actresses. I’m saying you gotta be a little mad to fully indulge in relationships...not saying it’s not okay to be

 

Edited Friday at 01:36 PM by meta_male

[Twentyfirst]

17 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

All men only want sex. It's women who think of sex as a leverage to gain something else, or additional besides pleasure from the act

So yeah that's a lie if you keep saying you want something else from women

What is sex? Children 

Sex = kids

Every time your brain or body wants sex it's really saying it wants to make babies. Birth control is very new 

[Princess Arabia]

50 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

All men only want sex.

That's why there are prostitutes, so you can leave the women looking for love or someone to share life's pleasures and joys with alone and not lie acting as if you care. You should be happy there are women willing to even sleep with you for a fee.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

50 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

What is sex? Children 

Sex = kids

Every time your brain or body wants sex it's really saying it wants to make babies. Birth control is very new 

That's very true. The purpose of the act should be respected and adhered to, but since it's enjoyable for a reason (to make the most ammount of children) it also makes sense to make it as enjoyable as possible for the woman

[nerdspeak]

58 minutes ago, meta_male said:

If I get that old, then help me God. How many people are in relationships for psychological comfort, even when they’re not sick per se? I’ve yet to find someone who isn’t. And I’ve yet to find a woman who’s faced the challenge of being content on her own. At this point in life, I couldn’t feel comfort in seeking support from a relationship, knowing they're mostly an unconscious act. The last time I was sick, my girlfriend made me feel even more sick, so much that I had to break up. Women aren’t naturally empathetic, they’re just really good actresses. I’m saying you gotta be a little mad to fully indulge in relationships...not saying it’s not okay to be

 

It's a back-up plan. Like, if I were building a team in a company, I would make sure people could do each other's jobs in case one of the team members gets sick. 

Anyone can get sick enough to not work for a month or two, even in their twenties. Ideally you'd have multiple back-ups -- friends, family, extended kinship, a good welfare state -- but not everyone has that luxury. 

I can just observe in myself, that when I'm in a relationship I'm less neurotic, even though I hate many things about relationships, and I've talked to multiple therapists and concluded this is the reason why. 

If you can get delusional confidence just from yourself in this highly atomized dysfunctional society, then more power to you though. 

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Princess Arabia well, the best middle ground imo is to be straight forward (and ballsy) with woman and outright say that I'd want to fuck her, and just be explicit, and then have relationship and kids with that woman, I dont think I'd have to lie. I believe that we all can be honest and get what we want its just that the path to success can become longer (but so would the path covered with lies)

[integral]

23 hours ago, AION said:

Talking about actualized works for you because it is you. At the end you have to do you. Unapologetically. If I started talking about spirituality I would get self conscious and it wouldn’t work. 

Fair enough, Well it's like talking about astrology or personality types, women love it, If you introduce the topic the right way they'll eat it up

Edited Friday at 02:39 PM by integral

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

All men only want sex

Human heart longs for genuine connection also. Because in connection there's union and in union there is love. It nurtures and expands your spirit. Nobody is an exception to this longing. 

Edited Friday at 02:42 PM by Salvijus

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Princess Arabia well, the best middle ground imo is to be straight forward (and ballsy) with woman and outright say that I'd want to fuck her, and just be explicit, and then have relationship and kids with that woman, I dont think I'd have to lie. I believe that we all can be honest and get what we want its just that the path to success can become longer (but so would the path covered with lies)

Every woman already knows this. Doesn't take a rocket scientist of a woman to recognize when a guy wants to get you in bed. Do stores go advertising saying I just want your money so just come in and give us your money and shop. No, they entice you, they make you want to shop at their stores they offer you incentive they make you want to. We know what they want, but they also appeal to our senses. You're saying your senses have already been appealed to by her appearance but you're not leaving room for ours. You want us to be ready and willing at the drop of a bat like you are, just by being physically attractive to you. Doesn't work that way with women. Thats why it gets easier in clubs and bars and under the influence. The alcohol has done your work for you in turning her on. It hits all the right spots. "I want to fuck you", doesn't. Unless she's already intoxicated from love or the alcohol. 

[Twentyfirst]

31 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

That's very true. The purpose of the act should be respected and adhered to, but since it's enjoyable for a reason (to make the most ammount of children) it also makes sense to make it as enjoyable as possible for the woman

Birth control disconnects the reason for sex by removing the possibility of children so people see sex as a standalone thing. I don't believe this but you can argue that female pleasure does not produce children but only male pleasure does as it's the male orgasm that has the seed. You could have 10 kids after a 3 minute sex session each totaling a half hour of the activity to produce 10 children. I think sex is overblown and it crazes peoples minds and causes drama, addiction, infidelity, and so much more

Sex is fun though but should be kept in check

[Twentyfirst]

17 minutes ago, integral said:

Fair enough, Well it's like talking about astrology or personality types, women love it, If you introduce the topic the right way they'll eat it up

Text them exactly at 3:33pm and say "hey I was just thinking of you for some reason" lol

They are too easy to trick into sex. Not that I advocate that 

[Lucasxp64]

It's all survival.

Even the niceness and romance is survival, that need to feel emotionally accepted by somebody.

A hardcore, spiritually independent person from sensorial experience is just fine with eating insects to survive and living in a literal cave.

I'm the weak one that craves companionship. Unable to suppress latent instinctual desires or desires built through meaning. Even the want for food is weakness that makes you move yourself to chew it, so you don't die.

By weakness, I mean, anything that keeps you from being able to just sit down and chill in complete contentment.

But even the Buddha was against extreme asceticism (deemed unnecessary for the practices to lead to his kind of enlightenment), he said "the middle path" where you keep just essentials (what you need to keep practicing daily the dhamma), but don't torture yourself on purpose is the best.

Personally I just embraced the reality, and how I can build my fantasies within it if I put the right resources in place. i.e: Give a mentally stable woman that I find attractive what they want and I'll mostly get what I want reciprocally. The woman I like also want to delude themselves like me to live the romantic fantasy within the confines of relationship where we exchange other kinds of value.

We like tucking that stuff away, it's a turn off and emotionally messed up. For the woman that I'd get emotionally close enough to get involved like that, they already perceived at that moment enough value, then, poof, of course, next moment it could be they see that I can't provide all the value they want, so they simply break out of the fantasy and go have it with somebody else and simply forget what has happened.

Paradoxically, the illusion of love in a relationship always comes with affirmations we would only reserve for gods, despite the truth being the opposite, we want even for a moment to play pretend our adoration as if we were gods. I feel utterly worshiped and adored, the words of affirmation of being told I'll be loved by them until the day we die, the way they say they want to cuddle and caress me, and to sexually satisfy me, be sexually playful in bed, as opposed to the slightly depressing opposite of cuming on a paper and flushing it down after beating one off for some random image on the internet in a random day, like some animal alone in a cage.

 

Edited Friday at 03:11 PM by Lucasxp64

[meta_male]

36 minutes ago, nerdspeak said:

I can just observe in myself, that when I'm in a relationship I'm less neurotic, even though I hate many things about relationships, and I've talked to multiple therapists and concluded this is the reason why. 

I see, that's a valuable realisation, mate. You sound a lot like one of my friends. I could never fathom how he can stay in a relationship for pragmatic reasons while remaining conscious of the motive behind it. That sounds absolutely foreign to me. I think for some personalities it’s manageable. But for me, it always came at the cost of personal growth and once I noticed that I couldn’t unsee it.

Edited Friday at 03:04 PM by meta_male

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

They are too easy to trick into sex

Ugg..sad thing is, you're right. Another sad thing is you're willing. What's even more sad is many babies have trick daddies and the saddest of them all is how the word "trick" was introduced into the mix as a way to describe men that hire. The mind is the biggest trick of them all.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

16 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Every woman already knows this. Doesn't take a rocket scientist of a woman to recognize when a guy wants to get you in bed. Do stores go advertising saying I just want your money so just come in and give us your money and shop. No, they entice you, they make you want to shop at their stores they offer you incentive they make you want to. We know what they want, but they also appeal to our senses. You're saying your senses have already been appealed to by her appearance but you're not leaving room for ours. You want us to be ready and willing at the drop of a bat like you are, just by being physically attractive to you. Doesn't work that way with women. Thats why it gets easier in clubs and bars and under the influence. The alcohol has done your work for you in turning her on. It hits all the right spots. "I want to fuck you", doesn't. Unless she's already intoxicated from love or the alcohol. 

No they don't know it. You are over estimating intuition of women heavilly. How are they supposed to know what your intentions are unless you tell them? And btw, even if they do "know" it, there's a difference between knowing and feeling. Right now you are in your logical state of mind so there's no sense in debating this with you. Literaly no point at all

[Twentyfirst]

15 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ugg..sad thing is, you're right. Another sad thing is you're willing. What's even more sad is many babies have trick daddies and the saddest of them all is how the word "trick" was introduced into the mix as a way to describe men that hire. The mind is the biggest trick of them all.

You misquoted me. I said I don't advocate tricking women and it's better to be up front about intentions 

[Chives99]

I don’t even know where to begin looking for a woman who genuinely wants a soul-level connection. I have zero interest in playing society’s dating games — I crave something raw, emotionally authentic, and real. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places... perhaps I need to start meeting women at personal development workshops, trauma groups, or philosophy clubs — places where depth is the baseline, not the exception. Definitely a different vibe from the surface-level socializing you get in most environments.

[Twentyfirst]

@Princess Arabia The reason it's so easy to trick women into sex is because women don't really put themselves into the shoes of men and because they underestimate men. Men will literally invent things just to get laid and since women aren't gonna go out of their way to sex they think men too won't go that far out of their way for sex. Men will build entire underground pick up spheres to get laid and then go out every day and take notes and discuss/compare those notes and create an entire science of what works and what doesn't. Women can't understand that

[Twentyfirst]

10 minutes ago, Chives99 said:

I don’t even know where to begin looking for a woman who genuinely wants a soul-level connection. I have zero interest in playing society’s dating games — I crave something raw, emotionally authentic, and real. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places... perhaps I need to start meeting women at personal development workshops, trauma groups, or philosophy clubs — places where depth is the baseline, not the exception. Definitely a different vibe from the surface-level socializing you get in most environments.

There is the underground market, the dating market, and the marriage market. Unfortunately dating market has merged with the underground market