5meo reactivations morphing to something else

[OBEler]

@khalifa You need to really embracing the fear. Study why fear exist, how fear is there for you to keep you alive. Then in all honesty look at the fear with no resistance and don't fake that because that's resistance. So optimal would be:

If anxiety comes, don't resist. welcome it

If anxiety comes be curious. It has a story to tell. 

you give then finally the body the signal that everything is fine. It doesn't need to give you anxiety anymore. the body knows them it produces unnecessary anxiety. Costs energy. It will not do that anymore once it knows everything is fine. Only if you signal your body that you are in a serious situation through resistance against fear you tell your body that something serious is going on. 

Your resistance is exactly the thing which keeps you stuck in the anxiety loop. 

Edited Tuesday at 06:55 AM by OBEler

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, khalifa said:

@Salvijus rubbish long session with it till it passes

Learn to enjoy the energy 🙂

Edited Tuesday at 06:58 AM by Salvijus

[LostSoul]

@Leo Gura You just put into words what happened to me years ago, I was 18 yo and knew nothing about spirituallity, and suddenly I had a huge emotional release that lead to a huge kundalini awakening. And now 26yo I find myself in a pretty similar situation as OP describes. I would add I have bad self steem and close to zero experiences with women and a job that robs my energy.

"I think I understand what happened to you. You had a huge 5-MeO breakthrough but your ego was nowhere mature or developed enough for it. The ego is freaking out about death and infinite consciousness and just wants to go back to being an asleep human."

[OBEler]

@khalifa I was rethinking about my last post. What you have might be beyond your relationship to fear. Your nervous system is out of balance.

It might be that 5 meo broke your ego down during the trip. Normally the ego rebuild itself like a reboot of a computer and stays functional. However you told me that you had an heartbreaking event directly after your 5 Meo experience which may contributed that your ego did not rebuild itself fully. 

So what to do with a computer what did not reboot fully? Make a restart again (=taking 5 Meo again) so that these stuck energies can be released an you rebuild yourself again fully. It sounds counterintuitive to do the same again which destroyed you but I see that as a valid option. Martin ball had many such cases and a second dose brought them fully back.

Edited Tuesday at 09:46 AM by OBEler

[LostSoul]

@OBEler

33 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@khalifa I was rethinking about my last post. What you have might be beyond your relationship to fear. Your nervous system is out of balance.

It might be that 5 meo broke your ego down during the trip. Normally the ego rebuild itself like a reboot of a computer and stays functional. However you told me that you had an heartbreaking event directly after your 5 Meo experience which may contributed that your ego did not rebuild itself fully. 

So what to do with a computer what did not reboot fully? Make a restart again (=taking 5 Meo again) so that these stuck energies can be released an you rebuild yourself again fully. It sounds counterintuitive to do the same again which destroyed you but I see that as a valid option. Martin ball had many such cases and a second dose brought them fully back.

Thats exaaactly what my situation is right now. An unwanted huge mystical experience broke my ego when I was only 18 (a KID), left me with existencial crisis and not knowing how to relate again with the world. Years went by and somehow I rebuild my ego but this time a lot more fearful, doutful and with existencial pain. I have 5meo at home, ready to pull the trigger but never done it. Afraid that it maybe left me worse than now?

Sorry for robbing OP attention but we are pretty much same case

[Leo Gura]

You guys need to understand how much deeper this work is than merely having an awakening experience. You have to rework your whole understanding of reality, society, mankind, and your relationship to all that.

It's not going to be this simple process of having a few awakening experiences and being done. We are talking about a decade of serious inner work at least to integrate and develop.

Edited Tuesday at 10:53 AM by Leo Gura

[OBEler]

@LostSoul there is risk in everything. But you have to calculate the reward for yourself. Also you can minimize the risks by doing the following:

Do 5 Meo regularly, at least every week, you can do it even multiple days in a row at the beginning. Start small and then slowly raise the dose every session, don't step back. Get comfortable in the 5 meo space . See where it leaves you. Do you come to a limit? If not maybe you will have one session another breakthrough and this can then rebuild your ego better than before.

If you do it that slow way it can be very smooth. But don't expect every session that it will be smooth because if it's not smooth you should not be surprised by it.

 

Edited Tuesday at 10:54 AM by OBEler

[LostSoul]

@Leo Gura

I really understand that but there are rare cases where you get an unwanted and premature awakening, then you have existencial crisis for some crucial years of your life, and then you become an adult with all these traumas, neurotic behaviour and anxietys, and want a shortcut to at least stop suffering so much.

Btw thanks for all you do with actualized.org

 

@Obeler thanks for the advice. Will try it out

 

[OBEler]

@LostSoul good luck, if you can post the results here everyone can see how it goes. Maybe it helps others also if it works for you.

With step by step you can test the waters and minimize the risks.

[BlessedLion]

18 hours ago, Hojo said:

@khalifa The same thing is happening to me it feels like a bubble bubbling.

Did you also do 5 MEO ?

 

[Hojo]

@BlessedLion No just mushroom years ago.

[BlessedLion]

10 hours ago, OBEler said:

@khalifa I was rethinking about my last post. What you have might be beyond your relationship to fear. Your nervous system is out of balance.

It might be that 5 meo broke your ego down during the trip. Normally the ego rebuild itself like a reboot of a computer and stays functional. However you told me that you had an heartbreaking event directly after your 5 Meo experience which may contributed that your ego did not rebuild itself fully. 

So what to do with a computer what did not reboot fully? Make a restart again (=taking 5 Meo again) so that these stuck energies can be released a you rebuild yourself again fully. It sounds counterintuitive to do the same again which destroyed you but I see that as a valid option. Martin ball had many such cases and a second dose brought them fully back.

Yes this is what Martin Ball suggests, sounds like the last thing you want to do but might actually work 

[gambler]

18 hours ago, Hojo said:

@khalifa The same thing is happening to me it feels like a bubble bubbling.

A bubble of energy?

Edited Tuesday at 08:54 PM by gambler

[Hojo]

@gambler It like weird feeling like a thick lava bubble forming and then popping. Since my awakening my brain feels like it turned on. I can feel electricity going around all the time. I never felt my brain before but after eating shroom I feel energy in there everyday.

[gambler]

54 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@gambler It like weird feeling like a thick lava bubble forming and then popping. Since my awakening my brain feels like it turned on. I can feel electricity going around all the time. I never felt my brain before but after eating shroom I feel energy in there everyday.

How do you feel about experiencing these sensations? Is it uncomfortable or something that doesn’t bother you? 

Edited Wednesday at 12:24 AM by gambler

[Hojo]

@gambler It is uncomfortable, It feels like a spicy bubble blowing up and popping.I have feelings of energy circling around the crown of my skull, it feels good but gets overwhelming unless i rub my finger around it in a circle.Sometimes I will have syncronized zaps on opposited sides of my brain at the same time. But there are some feelings that keep happening.

Edited Wednesday at 01:11 AM by Hojo

[khalifa]

@Hojo sometimes i wonder if it's just some sort of brain inflammation

[Loveeee]

On 4/1/2025 at 4:15 AM, Leo Gura said:

What I can tell you is, if you have kundalini problems seek out a kundalini expert. I am not one.

No I mean what can you tell us about kundalini, is it legit, what is it, got any sources to inform myself ?