Debate about Santa Claus existence.

[Majed]

It's a good lesson in epistemology to see how your mind is doing the same thing, the mind of these kids is doing. People do not see the depth of the problem of self deception, they just think kids are stupid and believe in Santa Claus. However a christian is doing the same thing in believing in Jesus Christ, i mean seriously what's the difference between believing in Santa Claus or believing in Jesus Christ being resurrected from death ? And also this problem is so epistemologically real that even scientists and atheists who believe in an external reality, and of other people, and of materialism are also doing the same thing just with different content, the structure is the same. Christians, scientists, and kids believing in Santa Claus, are all doing the same thing, aka believing without questioning, in other words holding dogmas, assumptions and not taking epistemology and ontology seriously. 

Here's the plot twist, Santa Claus is real, in terms of consciousness since consciousness is infinite and can imagine anything. However it does not mean those kids aren't foolish, because those kids are not conscious that materialism is a dream, and other people is an illusion within God's infinite mind. 

In conclusion: the christian fool thinks kids are stupid and believe in fairy tales, the atheist fool thinks religious people are as stupid as kids for believing in fairy tales, the wise mystic understand the problem of self deception and forgives the three of them. 

Without jailbreaking your mind, you look like a kid believing in Santa Claus to those who have jailbroken their minds. 

Edited March 31 by Majed

[Hojo]

Its literally a mechanism to lie to you and create a metaphysical being that is like God and then to rip it away and you will then say God is not real because I can't see him. I couldn't see Santa and I fell for that. Its created to do that. Probably the most evil thing society has ever done.

This is what they teach you God is real hes invisible he gives you gifts and loves you. Here is Santa he loves you is real and give you gifts, here is proof Santa exists he is leaving presents! Oh wow God must be real too! Jokes kid we gaslit the fuck put of you!

Then the child says well I am never believing anything I can't see even God.

The child will have an existential crisis and close their imagination.

Edited April 1 by Hojo

[gettoefl]

Santa works for a few years, science works for a few years, religion works for a few years, you works for a few years.

These are good games.

Keep hunting to find what doesn't fail, falter or forsake.

[Leo Gura]

We are not going to debate this.

Stop wasting your time on nonsense.

Edited April 1 by Leo Gura