Thoughts on Left hand path/Satanism?

[LordFall]

I came across the website of an organization called the Temple of Set that had some really interesting stuff to say that seems to relate to enlightenment and specifically getting out of group think. 

"The Temple of Set seeks above all to honor and enshrine consciousness. We wish to apprehend what makes us each individually unique and use this gift to make ourselves stronger in all facets of our being. To do this we preserve and improve the tradition of spiritual distinction from the cultural universe, which in the Judeo-Christian West has been called Satanism, but which is more generally known as the Left-Hand Path." 

"The values of the masses, whether inculcated by conventional religion or by mass media, must be recognized as an obstacle to individual spiritual development. Human society values predictability, stability, or stasis above all things. The Initiate, by contrast, seeks continuous, positive self-evolution."

"Since magic enables you to influence or change events in ways neither understood nor anticipated by society, you must develop a sound and sophisticated appreciation for the ethics governing your own motives, decisions, and actions before you put it to use. To use magic for impulsive, trivial, or egoistic desires is not Setian. It must become second-nature to you to carefully pre-evaluate the consequences of what you wish to do, then choose the course of wisdom, justice, and creative improvement."

"In many traditions, Satan is associated with the introduction of self-consciousness to humanity. In the biblical story of Genesis, Satan (in the form of a serpent) tempts Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, an act that grants Adam and Eve awareness of their nakedness and moral discernment. This act is often interpreted as the moment humanity gained self-awareness, moving from a state of innocence to one of moral complexity and existential questioning."

Fascinating, so according to this view of things was "Satan" the first conscious being that realize his existence as separate from the rest of consciousness? 

Especially when you look at how abrahamic religious folks react to the mention of even the name Satan it makes sense to me that they're more toxic than anybody I've seen that claims the mantle of Satanism. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/29/us/kansas-satanist-protest-arrests-hnk/index.html

The right hand path being one of basically submission to general principles and group think and anything outside of that gets you chastised for no particular reason apart from tribalism it would seem. 

[Someone here]

Watch Leo's video "what is the Devil?".

Satan is basically another name for you or the separate self that thinks it has a say in the matter ..that thinks it's actually orchestrating anything at any level and is actually separate from the totality or all there is or God. 

You are Satan. 

Ta-daa 

[Hojo]

Christianity is anti satan but they create it(by demonizing things children do) then demonize it inside the person

Hinduism is Satan worship but we need to understand we have been lied too about satan

Satan is darkness, the void you see when you close your eyes

God is light and satan combined into one light/void

One time in reality when you were a baby you and reality were one and then you dreamed yourself into existence.

Then you grew up and something scared you 'the snake/reptile brain' and you disassociate from God.

Christianity is anti darkness, If this were true to Christians they would all have to deny themselves and say they are all God.

Each Christian sees darkness when they close their eyes that means satan is there.

Christians hate Hindu cause its satan worship and its true but they dont understand what is happening in reality.

Also eastern religion is not the left hand path.

The Right hand path is what Christians are supposed to do or what Sadhguru is preaching

The left hand path is like stealing dead bodies to steal the energy, doing disgusting things, painful things, being naked and acting different, pedophilia and stuff.

Christianity is like I will completely dissasosiate and never question anything and be asleep and hindu is like hey you are satan and you can use satan as a tool.

The snake signifies your reptile brain/fear/ survival mechanism.

Christians are scared of going insane or realizing God is insanity and they built a religion that denies it and then killed everyone that knew and then took over the planet.

 

Edited Monday at 01:50 AM by Hojo

[LordFall]

20 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Watch Leo's video "what is the Devil?".

Satan is basically another name for you or the separate self that thinks it has a say in the matter ..that thinks it's actually orchestrating anything at any level and is actually separate from the totality or all there is or God. 

You are Satan. 

Ta-daa 

Yes I watched it a long time ago, I don't think it satisfies my questions nor does your reply. What does that mean to you? How do you think about your own free will? 

 

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

The Right hand path is what Christians are supposed to do or what Sadhguru is preaching

The left hand path is like stealing dead bodies to steal the energy, doing disgusting things, painful things, being naked and acting different, pedophilia and stuff.

Christianity is like I will completely dissasosiate and never question anything and be asleep and hindu is like hey you are satan and you can use satan as a tool.

Yes christians are mostly selfish people that pretend to be holylike I believe as a strawman or as a steel man good hearted people that just have a limited worldview. At least the ones I've seen as a blank statement.

Where did you get that from the left hand path? That sounds specifically like Aghori which are a nondual sect that do all kinds of crazy shit like cannibalism because they say it's all the same nothing matters from my understanding.

What's your understanding of the link between Satan and hinduism? 

[Hojo]

@LordFall They worship shiva/the darkness/satan.

13 hours ago, LordFall said:

Yes christians are mostly selfish people that pretend to be holylike I believe as a strawman or as a steel man good hearted people that just have a limited worldview. At least the ones I've seen as a blank statement.

It dosent matter if they are good hearted, they dont know satan. When you awake its like you are seeing satan not God you see you are satan and when you see satan you see that God exists and God created satan/you so it could experience something that is not God. Like satan is the 'one avatar' / every character, and every character is played by God/the simulation.

Christianity is saying only the game character exists and its satanism to say there is a simulation that can be accessed.

Hindu is saying no we are in a simulation and there is the 'one Avatar' and we are all it and its shiva(the darkness you see when you close your eyes,satan) and the ultimate God dosent  care what we do its just hosting us and its all accepting.They say seeing satan is enlightenment. Its the Goal, you cannot see God but you can see yourself as satan.

 

Edited Monday at 03:38 PM by Hojo

[Someone here]

34 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Yes I watched it a long time ago, I don't think it satisfies my questions nor does your reply. What does that mean to you? How do you think about your own free will? 

 

Watch it again . It does answer your question. 

It means the self who thinks it's thinking thoughts ..doing deeds ..and selecting variables and is in charge of itself &its life is illusion or does not exist in actuality .

This self is what religions  gave the metaphorical archetype Satan.  Its a metaphore for the ego .

There is no free will you don't know what's the next thought in your mind after 2 seconds from now it just pops up like a porn ad .

[LordFall]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Watch it again . It does answer your question. 

It means the self who thinks it's thinking thoughts ..doing deeds ..and selecting variables and is in charge of itself &its life is illusion or does not exist in actuality .

This self is what religions  gave the metaphorical archetype Satan.  Its a metaphore for the ego .

There is no free will you don't know what's the next thought in your mind after 2 seconds from now it just pops up like a porn ad .

What does not exist mean to you? Clearly it's here so I find that explanation unconvincing. 

You can't fully control your thoughts but you can your actions? What would the difference between that and free will be? I can eat my spaghetti now or go take a shower. Or I could throw my spaghetti away. What would free will or no free will mean in this situation? 

[Hojo]

When a christian sees God they are going to say its satan and freak out. No one can help you if you think God is satan.

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, LordFall said:

What does not exist mean to you? 

It means just that .does..not ..exist.  

3 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Clearly it's here

There is apparently a human body but turn your gaze inwards and try to find "little me " inside your head ..body ..or even the external environment . You think there is a mouse alien residing inside your brain giving commands to the body ? That's an illusion. 

5 minutes ago, LordFall said:

You can't fully control your thoughts but you can your actions? 

You can't control your actions either . Try to stop sneezing or farting when they happen next time .

In a sense.. I'm not writing this.. and you are not reading this. It's all being played and it's all karma. Circumstances are infinitely complex and destiny is inevitble. As the awareness watching the movie.. we have zero influence over the plot.

"You're not doing it, it's doing you" - Alan Watts

You didn't choose your birth as this particular human.. In this particular world.. In this particular part of the world.. In this particular Era.. To this particular family.. With this particular genetics.. With this particular gender.. With this particular look.. Yada yada..you didn't choose the language that you are speaking.. You didn't choose your upbringing.. You didn't choose your cultural conditioning.. You don't choose your heart beat.. You don't choose your thoughts.. You don't choose your actions.. You don't choose your reactions.. You don't choose what you agree with.. You don't choose what you disagree with.. You don't choose your beliefs.. your desires.. your traits  .your mood.. your habits.. your chances.. your anything lol...simply because you are not real as an individual. you yourself are a thought or at best a continuity of conditioned thoughts been shaped by your environment. 

8 minutes ago, LordFall said:

What would the difference between that and free will be? I can eat my spaghetti now or go take a shower. Or I could throw my spaghetti away. What would free will or no free will mean in this situation? 

I explained it .I don't think you are even asking primarily about free will but about Satanism .

I suggest listening to Hojo .he knows this shit .

[Aaron p]

It depends on the people doing it satan can be interpreted many ways.

Satan was a high ranking angel who just chose the wrong path. Also spirits are real (like if someone is in high spirits today) so be aware of which spirits your associating with as there are legitimately benevolent and malevolent ones.

But like you could for sure get more fucked by Christianity than satanism. At least you'll be in reality in satanism rather than in some mass delusion that poisons your entire life and family slowly for decades. 

 

2 Corinthians 11:14

"...Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light."

[Davino]

16 hours ago, LordFall said:

Fascinating, so according to this view of things was "Satan" the first conscious being that realize his existence as separate from the rest of consciousness?

That's a very interesting way to frame it

[Breakingthewall]

Satan is the separating agent. It is the part of humans that induces separation from the absolute, the isolation that leads to evil and the hell of absolute loneliness, the complete disconnection from one's nature. Satan is fear, control, and comparison that leads to hatred and war. It is what makes us human and separates us from the Garden of Eden of full, absolute reality. It is the loss of innocence. 

A human who wants to be human and also absolute must have opened his heart to Satan once in his life, fallen into absolute darkness and emerged from it, rejected Satan and embraced unity with God. Because human world is full of Satan, if you want to be free of him you must know him intimately 

Edited Monday at 09:40 PM by Breakingthewall

[LordFall]

6 hours ago, Aaron p said:

It depends on the people doing it satan can be interpreted many ways.

Satan was a high ranking angel who just chose the wrong path. Also spirits are real (like if someone is in high spirits today) so be aware of which spirits your associating with as there are legitimately benevolent and malevolent ones.

But like you could for sure get more fucked by Christianity than satanism. At least you'll be in reality in satanism rather than in some mass delusion that poisons your entire life and family slowly for decades. 

 

2 Corinthians 11:14

"...Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light."

The wrong path how? And if you equate it to consciousness and especially the fruit of knowledge that gave Adam and Eve the self-consciousness to realize their separateness from whole and be embarrassed of being naked and thus vulnerable, wasn't he the one that created humans? 

If we don't have our consciousness it's just God playing with dolls, the whole christian lore makes no sense in terms of Satan being evil. The left path explanation makes way more sense. 

[Breakingthewall]

Satan is necessary for reality to become aware of itself. First, it must separate itself, performing an energetic maneuver that consists of entering a bubble of deception that feeds back into the human matrix, which is a world of madness. From this illusory world isolated from the totality, reality can regain contact with itself by looking at itself from an external angle. Satan creates a new perspective from which reality observes and understands itself.

[cetus]

4 hours ago, Davino said:

That's a very interesting way to frame it

The story of Adam and Eve is similar. God warned Adam not to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge. "Knowledge" being the knowledge of the egoic self-separate from reality. Hence the sudden addition of the fig leaf as Adam and Eve then became "self-conscious".

[LordFall]

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Satan is necessary for reality to become aware of itself. First, it must separate itself, performing an energetic maneuver that consists of entering a bubble of deception that feeds back into the human matrix, which is a world of madness. From this illusory world isolated from the totality, reality can regain contact with itself by looking at itself from an external angle. Satan creates a new perspective from which reality observes and understands itself.

I think you're saying some profound stuff, care to share more?

6 hours ago, cetus said:

The story of Adam and Eve is similar. God warned Adam not to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge. "Knowledge" being the knowledge of the egoic self-separate from reality. Hence the sudden addition of the fig leaf as Adam and Eve then became "self-conscious".

See that doesn't make sense because if Adam hadn't yet eaten from the tree who was God talking to wouldn't they be the same consciousness? 

[Breakingthewall]

Slowly, life separates from its energetic trunk, and the isolated individual begins to emerge. Suffering is the energetic vibration that makes it become self-aware. When the individual groups into societies, they take center stage, and suffering is no longer only physical but social. An elephant suffers if it is rejected from the herd. When articulate language emerges in life, expressing ideas that the brain converts into concepts that represent realities, the mental matrix begins, driven by suffering, fear and desire, vibrations that life creates to move forward.

 With this impulse, the brain evolves into a machine of enormous complexity capable of penetrating all layers of reality and understanding them. The movement that has occurred is that with life, the awareness of existing appears. This awareness splits off from its own existence to lose itself in its own creation, the mind, and then detach from it, and from there, reality observe itself and understand itself. Seems that this is the movement that happens due the unstoppable positive drive of existence 

[gettoefl]

13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Satan is necessary for reality to become aware of itself. First, it must separate itself, performing an energetic maneuver that consists of entering a bubble of deception that feeds back into the human matrix, which is a world of madness. From this illusory world isolated from the totality, reality can regain contact with itself by looking at itself from an external angle. Satan creates a new perspective from which reality observes and understands itself.

I have to see what bad is to know what good is.

I will flee bad's clutches for good.

This is the end of one universe among many.

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Slowly, life separates from its energetic trunk, and the isolated individual begins to emerge. Suffering is the energetic vibration that makes it become self-aware. When the individual groups into societies, they take center stage, and suffering is no longer only physical but social. An elephant suffers if it is rejected from the herd. When articulate language emerges in life, expressing ideas that the brain converts into concepts that represent realities, the mental matrix begins, driven by suffering, fear and desire, vibrations that life creates to move forward.

 With this impulse, the brain evolves into a machine of enormous complexity capable of penetrating all layers of reality and understanding them. The movement that has occurred is that with life, the awareness of existing appears. This awareness splits off from its own existence to lose itself in its own creation, the mind, and then detach from it, and from there, reality observe itself and understand itself. Seems that this is the movement that happens due the unstoppable positive drive of existence 

The one realm is contraction and scarcity and finitude and evil and the other is expansion and opulence and eternity and love.