Why I'm quitting NoFap.

[Basman]

36 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Whats your hyper specific niche ?

I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to share that on a public forum.

[Wilhelm44]

27 minutes ago, Basman said:

I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to share that on a public forum.

Which means you also wont be 'brave'/foolish enough to make your own porn for the public. 

Edited Tuesday at 02:45 PM by Wilhelm44

[Basman]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Which means you also wont be 'brave'/foolish enough to make your own porn for the public. 

1) False equivalence. Watching/making porn isn't the same as asking people what their fetishes is.

2) You don't know me.

[Wilhelm44]

16 minutes ago, Basman said:

1) False equivalence. Watching/making porn isn't the same as asking people what their fetishes is.

2) You don't know me.

Maybe i misunderstood you, are you planning on making porn just for your own private use, or will it be available for the public to view also ?

Edited Tuesday at 03:09 PM by Wilhelm44

[Yimpa]

When you porn, make sure it is both naughty and nice  

[Basman]

4 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Maybe i misunderstood you, are you planning on making porn just for your own private use, or will it be available for the public to view also ?

Art is meant to be shared.

[Wilhelm44]

30 minutes ago, Basman said:

Art is meant to be shared.

You dont feel comfortable, understandably so, in sharing the name of the particular porn niche on a relatively smaller public forum like this, but you're okay sharing the actual videos with millions of people out there. Yeah right.

Edited Tuesday at 07:48 PM by Wilhelm44

[Basman]

27 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You dont feel comfortable, understandably so, in sharing the name of the particular porn niche on a relatively smaller public forum like this, but you're okay sharing the actual videos with millions of people out there. Yeah right.

Same energy:

Edited Tuesday at 08:00 PM by Basman

[Wilhelm44]

20 minutes ago, Basman said:

Same energy:

Interesting, what got you into this niche ?

[Someone here]

On 31/03/2025 at 10:51 PM, Basman said:

There is no strong evidence for porn being bad for you, 

Lolz . You must be kidding my ass .

Not for the producers because they obviously make tons of money.. And not for the actors/actresses.. They seem to enjoy their job (although I've watched interviews with a lot of retired workers in the industry reporting how it was overall a negative experience but anyways.).... ..  more for the consumers.  The majority of the consumers of course are young males.. Young single males.  In the last few years there was a growing number of studies showing the "addictive" effects of porn on the male  brain. It rewires the brain to be responsive to porn rather than real sex.. Lots of forums and support groups and websites (most famous YBOP) were spread on the web last five years filled with thousands of guys reporting how porn has negatively affected their sex lives and the tough addiction they are dealing with. 

of course there is a distinction between what kind of porn you watch (vanilla stuff vs fucked up shit) and how often do you watch Yada Yada Yada.. The issue I see is it's so easy to become an addiction. Because it's extremely pleasant unlike video games or fast food. Especially for young boys with you know with an explosion of hormones during  puberty age. the thing is.. exposure to porn results in dopamine spikes in the brains of the porn-users.. However.. after being exposed to many graphic images.. the brain becomes de-sensitised and unable to be satisfied by ordinary sexual encounters.  now what is needed is sexually extreme experiences and hardcore pornography to become sexually aroused.  You get how this works? 

What wasn't so popular and known untill recently that watching porn causes physical damage in the brain.. Researchers found less grey matter in the brains of men who watched large amounts of sexually explicit material relative to those who watch it casually or were not exposed to it at all.  So I am actually building a case here that porn is harmful and should be avoided. Watch video below for more information.. 

 

[Basman]

39 minutes ago, Someone here said:

What wasn't so popular and known untill recently that watching porn causes physical damage in the brain.. Researchers found less grey matter in the brains of men who watched large amounts of sexually explicit material relative to those who watch it casually or were not exposed to it at all.  So I am actually building a case here that porn is harmful and should be avoided. Watch video below for more information..

This is sloppy stuff...

Finding less grey matter in heavy porn users doesn't directly conclude that the cause is porn. That is an assumption. What if a lack of grey matter is the cause of heavy porn use? Or another example, what if a lack of grey matter is due to a lack of brain stimulating activities like learning or exercise that could correlate with heavy porn use? This is a good example of porn addiction lacking evidence. There is not enough evidence to make a conclusive statement here. Doesn't mean it can't be true but you are assuming the conclusion.

The irony of porn haters is that you don't even need to make the argument that porn is addictive to make a value judgement, however that would instantly just make it "your opinion" and less of a political tool. That doesn't mean that porn can't be potentially addictive but what is going on here most likely is that people already have the conclusion in hand that porn is bad and are backwards rationalizing their moral belief. The biggest predictor of self-reported porn-addiction is in fact religiosity (religiosity can cause various sexual problems in fact). Another fact is that porn-addiction isn't an addictive disorder but an impulse-control disorder in the case of genuine "porn addiction" in the medical sense (excluding moral conflict during diagnosis).

Here's a good read: 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction#Diagnostic_status

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

What wasn't so popular and known untill recently that watching porn causes physical damage in the brain.. Researchers found less grey matter in the brains of men who watched large amounts of sexually explicit material relative to those who watch it casually or were not exposed to it at all.  So I am actually building a case here that porn is harmful and should be avoided. Watch video below for more information.. 

 

That video mentioned nothing about reductions in grey matter volume. They mentioned increased activation in the ventral striatum 

[Someone here]

@Basman @Carl-Richard

Look I'm not gonna sit here rambling about "why porn is the devil ?😱"..I did provide some information about it ..plus I did that a thousand times in the past so I'm kinda bored of rehashing myself  and I don't feel like it .

Just listen to your intuition at this point . Go open up some fucked up pornography like gangbangs or bukakus or pissing and shitting orgies and then come back and say with straight face "porn is harmless ". Cool ?

These days its getting in the way of young guys  finding a real girlfriend. Why should you go out there and talk to girls if you can just open up some AI-girlfriend porn site or disappear into some VR porn headset jerking off while binging on Burger King simultaneously? 

Its a way of hedonist mentality and escapism .and this is not self improvement work .

Masturbation in a balanced rate to your own desired authentic imagination is a totally different matter and like I said in OP it's 100% healthy and harmless. 

 

[Basman]

59 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Look I'm not gonna sit here rambling about "why porn is the devil ?😱"..I did provide some information about it ..plus I did that a thousand times in the past so I'm kinda bored of rehashing myself  and I don't feel like it .

Just listen to your intuition at this point . Go open up some fucked up pornography like gangbangs or bukakus or pissing and shitting orgies and then come back and say with straight face "porn is harmless ". Cool ?

You shouldn't make a strong empirical claim like that porn destroys your brain if you can't provide serious evidence. It's essentially misinformation. It's fine to a have hunch about porn being bad but the lack of transparency comes off as deliberate and misleading.

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

These days its getting in the way of young guys  finding a real girlfriend. Why should you go out there and talk to girls if you can just open up some AI-girlfriend porn site or disappear into some VR porn headset jerking off while binging on Burger King simultaneously? 

Its a way of hedonist mentality and escapism .and this is not self improvement work .

This is a different argument, that porn is a distraction. You would have a much stronger case against porn use if you focused on lifestyle over pseudo-science. In my own experience, overindulging on porn is bad not for health reasons but because it is an unproductive waste of time. Though I think there is still a degree of moral attitude steering the conversation. 

The problem with moralizing is that it's an arbitrary attitude relative to the individual/culture which is not inherently accurate of reality or applicable/desirable to everyone since people are different. Why even rail against porn so much if you don't have a moral conviction about it? If young men are not taking their lives seriously and wasting their time watching porn, what else are they missing in life? Too much porn is just a symptom in the majority of cases in my opinion.

[Someone here]

14 minutes ago, Basman said:

You shouldn't make a strong empirical claim like that porn destroys your brain if you can't provide serious evidence. It's essentially misinformation

Wtf? Watch the damn video I attached and read this book https://www.amazon.com/Your-Brain-Porn-Pornography-Addiction-ebook/dp/B00N2AH8NW

It's only 5 dollars worth . Like I said these negative side effects were just recently discovered. It's a new field.  And let's be real here for a moment..do you need a fucking book or scientific paper to tell you that porn ruins your brain and fucks with your perception of women like for example makes you view women as sex objects ? Give me a fucking break .

But I get it ..porn feels "Guuuud" ,though . So im not blaming you or shaming you.

.i myself enjoy it 😂 . 

19 minutes ago, Basman said:

The problem with moralizing is that it's an arbitrary attitude relative to the individual/culture which is not inherently accurate of reality or applicable/desirable to everyone since people are different

Yes morality is relative fantasy made up by humans but we need some ethical code to survive as a society .otherwise let's go bang each others in the streets like the actual apes we are .

[Basman]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

And let's be real here for a moment..do you need a fucking book or scientific paper to tell you that porn ruins your brain and fucks with your perception of women like for example makes you view women as sex objects ? Give me a fucking break .

Yes. You don't know what you don't know. None of the resources you shared is serious evidence.

If porn use has serious medical consequences, then why aren't we seeing a proportional response from the medical community or governments? If it so bad, then why aren't we seeing people's lives ruined relative to the amount of porn being consumed, like for example the opium wars in China?

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

... we need some ethical code to survive as a society .otherwise let's go bang each others in the streets like the actual apes we are .

Why not? How do you know that that wouldn't work and what is informing your perception? Keep in mind that perception isn't pure data but an interpretive process, so if you see a street orgy and you feel that is bad, how do you recognize the effect that preconceived ideas about social norms and chastity aren't influencing your view? How do you know whether or not it is actually unethical?

Ethics is a serious matter that demands diligence and critical thinking. Postulating and assuming the conclusion isn't wholly sufficient for leading to a healthy society nor should the goal of society be to perpetuate a particular religious/conservative identity.

[Carl-Richard]

5 hours ago, Someone here said:

Masturbation in a balanced rate to your own desired authentic imagination is a totally different matter and like I said in OP it's 100% healthy and harmless. 

Is fapping to a pic of my GF healthy and harmless?

Edited Saturday at 12:48 PM by Carl-Richard

[Someone here]

54 minutes ago, Basman said:

None of the resources you shared is serious evidence.

And here is where I have to tell you I'm done with you buddy . The book I shared is written by a neuroscientist sharing empirical brain scans and studies on porn users' brains showing damage to the prefrontal cortex ..the reward circuit ..and the grey matter in the brain of porn Addicts..that's not serious evidence..? It seems like you just like to goon out on porn and you will fight tooth and nail down out of your way to justify your porn usage . And that's fine ..I have no problem. Go watch porn . I watch it too . Who doesn't watch it ? Who are we kidding here ? Right ? RIGHT?!

This thread is about masturbation not porn .

Have a nice day sir .

20 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Is fapping to a pic of my GF healthy and harmless?

Which we both now you do not have ?

[Someone here]

@Carl-Richard OK sorry for being rude I was just triggered a lil bit by that guy's pedantry. 

I have no idea whether you have a girlfriend or not ..

But regarding your question..I'm not sure why should you even fap to your girlfriend's pic when you can just fuck her brains out .

Edited Saturday at 01:18 PM by Someone here

[Carl-Richard]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Carl-Richard OK sorry for being rude I was just triggered a lil bit by that guy's pedantry. 

I have no idea whether you have a girlfriend or not ..

But regarding your question..I'm not sure why should you even fap to your girlfriend's pic when you can just fuck her brains out .

Answer the question!