Why I'm quitting NoFap.

[Someone here]

 I still remember when i first discovered what an orgasm is during puberty..basically the very time i masturbated ..my first thoughts were something like "Holy shit holy shit holy shit...white stuff came out of my dick. What the fuck did I do? This has to be bad for me. I'm never touching myself again" 

And then the next day I did it again.😂

Back then I didn't even start watching porn ..I mean I could..but it just didn't arouse me..I don't want to just insert my penis into some fucking vagina while looking at the window and the woman is looking at the wall 😂 (isn't that 90% of porn scenes ?). So for the first few years in my puberty I used my imagination to jerk off .and it felt better than jaking off to porn. But obviously as the years went by I started getting lost in Pornhub and other XXX tube sites . That's not what I want to talk about today though so let's get into it :

I did nofap for years on and off .meaning I abstained and relapsed a million times .I tried to quit porn and masturbation as much times as there are hairs in my beard .but it just didn't work . Plus I always thought that masturbation is bad and unhealthy. And that was my opinion expressed here on this forum around the topic of masturbation since my first day joining this forum .

Now I've changed my mind . I started jerking off again . And I believe now that it's 100% healthy and normal. And in fact not masturbating is actually bad for you .

Why is that ? For the following reasons:

1- it just feels gooooood ,okay ? Why should you deny yourself self-love ? Why should you keep gallons of Cum inside your balls and become a sexually repressed creep who will harrase girls in public because you can't think straight from the amount of Horniness you are experiencing?  

2- actually it's healthy to cum every once in a while . Why ?

There is a scientific study that shows that men who ejaculated more often have lower risk of prostate cancer .

 

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/ejaculation_frequency_and_prostate_cancer

3-there is a scientific study that shows that ejaculating once a week actually INCREASES testosterone levels .

https://www.healthline.com/health/masturbation-and-testosterone

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So I'm convinced now that masturbation is good..healthy &NECESSARY.

The only problem is when you overdo it .obviously if you squeeze your fucking balls dry by Cumming 3 times a day everyday you will feel lethargic..depressed..zero libido ..not motivated..temporary ED..etc.  so just use common sense boys and cum twice -4 times a month and enjoy your life .

Move over !.

 

[Leo Gura]

Progress.

[Someone here]

  On 3/30/2025 at 1:03 AM, Leo Gura said:

Progress.

😂

[Someone here]

@Leo Gura porn is still problematic to some degree though . I've figured it out when it comes to masturbation..but I'm still trying to wrap my brain around porn.

[Princess Arabia]

  On 3/30/2025 at 1:15 AM, Someone here said:

@Leo Gura porn is still problematic to some degree though . I've figured it out when it comes to masturbation..but I'm still trying to wrap my brain around porn.

We've been so addicted to outside stimuli for our source of happiness and to look to the outside world for fulfillment that masturbating to your own thoughts, fantasies in your head and the notion that that's coming from your own being, isn't as fulfilling as the outside stimuli of porn. It has to come from the outside or it's not fulfilling enough, is what the mind says to itself. There's no real difference with watching porn and fantasizing in your head to have an orgasm, but the programmed mind doesn't know that. It sees one differently from the other and that's the difference with how it responds to both. 

[EternalForest]

I totally agree with you. Masturbation is excellent for a man's mental health. Porn is not.

[PenguinPablo]

Never give up brother. 

Read Napoleon Hill.

Conquer your impulses. Channel that energy into your life's work.

You can either achieve greatness. Immortality. A legacy that never dies.

Or you can die with a tissue in your hand. 

[Someone here]

  On 3/30/2025 at 1:57 AM, Princess Arabia said:

We've been so addicted to outside stimuli for our source of happiness and to look to the outside world for fulfillment that masturbating to your own thoughts, fantasies in your head and the notion that that's coming from your own being, isn't as fulfilling as the outside stimuli of porn. It has to come from the outside or it's not fulfilling enough, is what the mind says to itself. There's no real difference with watching porn and fantasizing in your head to have an orgasm, but the programmed mind doesn't know that. It sees one differently from the other and that's the difference with how it responds to both. 

I understand.  But as I said earlier in my life I used to get off more by exploring my imagination than watching porn. Because porn focuses 90% on the penetration process (inserting the dick inside the pussy ) and thats why in most porn videos they do a zoom into the dick penetrating the vagina . There is not much focus on kissing ..sensuality ..intimacy..foreplay etc .

[Someone here]

  On 3/30/2025 at 3:16 AM, EternalForest said:

I totally agree with you. Masturbation is excellent for a man's mental health. Porn is not.

Yes that's true thanks for your comment .

[Someone here]

  On 3/30/2025 at 4:18 AM, PenguinPablo said:

Never give up brother. 

Read Napoleon Hill.

Conquer your impulses. Channel that energy into your life's work.

You can either achieve greatness. Immortality. A legacy that never dies.

Or you can die with a tissue in your hand. 

Then good luck creating a legacy brother  . 

People have been trying to stop masturbating since the beginning of time and they still can't. 

Go check out the nofap forum and nofap subbreddits. There are guys trying to stop masturbation since they were 18 until they are 50-60 years old and they still can't. 

You are not supposed to stop masturbation. Even monkeys masturbate. It is normal .awakening is required to understand this .

[Leo Gura]

Never give up on jerking off

[Yimpa]

[Lyubov]

I actually think nofap has its place but it also has a lot of limitations and there are higher belief systems and practices that are better for most guys. For me I want to do this less because I think it’s getting in the way of me being more intimate with my girlfriend out of some fear of being separated on day. So for me addressing that instead of retreating would be beneficial.

[AION]

Being able to yield your sexual power is one the greatest task a man is forced to conquer or be conquered by it. Great skill and character is needed. It shouldn’t be underestimated. 

[M4sti]

Hypnosis, asmr, hands free mind orgasms, roleplays.

classical porn just useless and stupid. 

[integration journey]

Yup. After years of struggle I came to the same conclusion.

I just jerk off once a week with no external stimuli. Just using my own imagination. Feels like the healthiest thing to do.

I can’t go a week without jerking off at least once. I become a crazy horny motherfucker if I don’t.  

Edited Sunday at 05:50 AM by integration journey

[Wilhelm44]

Porn may serve a purpose in one's life for a while, but at some point it needs to be transcended. You cant deny its creepy vibes. Its almost like finding someone being raped in a field, and then standing around watching and jerking off. Im exaggerating ofcourse, but its creepiness is proven by the fact that you would never actually engage in participating in it yourself. There's nothing wrong with masturbation though, as a way of discovering your own sensuality, and making love to self.

Edited Sunday at 08:50 AM by Wilhelm44

[PenguinPablo]

@Someone here I was just kidding bro. Do whatever the fuck you wanna do lol. 

[Vynce]

  On 3/30/2025 at 5:51 AM, Wilhelm44 said:

Porn may serve a purpose in one's life for a while, but at some point it needs to be transcended. You cant deny its creepy vibes. Its almost like finding someone being raped in a field, and then standing around watching and jerking off. Im exaggerating ofcourse, but its creepiness is proven by the fact that you would never engage in it yourself. There's nothing wrong with masturbation though, as a way of discovering your own sensuality, and making love to self.

How do you know that I don't want to engage in it myself?

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There comes a time where not jerking off feels more disruptive to ones energy than forcefully going against your insticts and emotions.

Fapping out of boredom is usually pathetic. Fapping out of pure lust usually greater than real sex. Why would you miss out of that? 

Its a delicate balance, that is easy to find, if you are connected with your body's real needs.

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Its super important to find ones owns truth in this matter. I'm just saying what works for me.

[Norbert Somogyi]

Porn addiction is real, people unfortunately are exposed to porn thanks to the internet even below age 10. This is a hindrance to their sexual development - distorted perception of the opposite sex and their sexuality, 24/7 availability of sex, objectification, PIED etc. It is also used as a clutch to temporarily supress emotional pain, even boredom. I'd say it is best to quit porn altogether.

When it comes to NoFap and the whole movement, despite the humble and mature origins, is completely derailed by now. Teenagers are completely repressing their sexuality instead of embracing it, questioning themselves whether sex (even with a loved one) is allowed, and asking each other how long does it take to get out of it. Furthermore the majority attaches shame and guilt to each relapse, instead of celebrating their progression. 

Another issue I see with the movement (at least the subreddit, I don't check the forums that much) is that NoFap has been molded into a single cure for people's anxiety, motivational issues and life problems. The thing is changing this one piece in your life will not often yield great results, at best it can be used as a fuel to change one's life. The more you try to go against it, the steeper the hill you are climbing. Real progress happens when you take other steps to improve your life and you have less and less thoughts on it. Even further once you stop punishing yourself for indulging it, when you can embrace and accept this part of your sexuality.

I've been on NoFap for quite a lot of years in my life, with varying success. Numerous streaks between weeks and sometimes months (it did make a difference), and there was one breakthrough moment. I felt thoroughly disgusted by it in my body, and made me able to go for prolonged periods of time without even giving it a thought. I felt as if my addiction was cured, but nah the story did not end there. 

I see the value in building up your sexual energy (I don't think not ejaculating increases the risk of prostate cancer, sounds like a cherry-picked study funded by the porn industry - your body gets rid of the excess either way through wet dreams), but the thing is if it gets stuck without direction it is going to cause more harm than benefit. Anger, irritability, insomnia etc. There's a thing called transmutation (not just in tantric circles) when you use the built up sexual energy to fuel something greater, something purposeful. Can be personal and spiritual development, art, life purpose, building a company, physical fitness etc.

NoFap does and should not require to abstain forever (that's Semen Retention, which I tried with varying results - currently does not feel right for me.), people have different sex drives. Some people feel best on a weekly basis, some bi-weekly, monthly, the frequency differs individually. Awareness is key here, why you are doing it and how do you feel about it.

There's a robust research behind POIS (Post-Orgasm Induced Syndrome), forum can be found here.

Currently I'm also on a weekly basis, but since I started to optimize my biomarkers I feel just as great as I did on longer streaks, furthermore the shame is also gone by now. Embrace your sexuality, it is not a sin.

P.S: I got banned from the NoFap subreddit for posting a link of the free e-book *The Easy Peasy Method*, which provides a drastically different approach to porn addiction. Oh, the irony.