Too young for clubs but wanna learn pickup - is starting with day game ok?

[Magnanimous]

Wanna move to America the year I turn 20 to learn pickup, but most clubs don't allow under-21's because of the legal drinking age.

I'm thinking the next best place to find lots of new attractive women are malls at the major cities. So is starting day-game ok for learning pickup, and how should I balance it with night game once I'm old enough?

Edited March 29 by Magnanimous

[something_else]

Why America?

Especially right now, it does not seem like a place you want to be emigrating to for a variety of reasons

Chatting up tons of women in malls has the potential to get you into legal trouble, and getting into legal trouble as a foreigner right now is really risky

[Leo Gura]

Very few malls have enough volume and quality to be great.

What's better is street game. But this requires certain special street locations like NYC, Miami, LA, Vegas Strip, Austin 6th Street.

Austin 6th Street has some wild street game Thurs-Sat. Lots of young chicks in their early 20s. Austin is probably your best bet.

Funny enough, my first chick was from an Austin mall. Malls can work if you find a very high volume mall.

In Vegas you can literally game outside of nightclubs without ever going inside. No cover, no ID required. You can just show up 2am-4am when all the girls are leaving the club. The Vegas Strip has huge volume and lots of opportunities. Free and no ID.

Street game in NYC is very good from what I hear. But NYC is so expensive to live. Miami street and beach game is very appealing.

Edited March 29 by Leo Gura

[Davino]

I always found public transport the best place for day game.

Lots of girls come and go, no pressure because everyone leaves eventually, you make eye contact, chat and it's easy to transition on insta date: hey I know a nice place around here wanna have a coffee?

[Twentyfirst]

Get into the club anyways? Part of game is to be able to shift in and out of any situation with ease. Figure it out

I was buying the 18 year olds alcohol when I was 15. It bought me a lot of street cred

Edited March 29 by Twentyfirst

[MarkKol]

12 hours ago, Magnanimous said:

Wanna move to America the year I turn 20

Careful casually saying this expecting it to be easy or something, they've made it pretty hard, you def need a plan. I'm no lawyer but I can give you some tips.

I think it's easier to run 10 full marathons than immigrating to the States. It's doable though. For some nationalities less for some more doable.

Edited March 29 by MarkKol

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, MarkKol said:

Careful casually saying this expecting it to be easy or something, they've made it pretty hard, you def need a plan. I'm no lawyer but I can give you some tips.

I think it's easier to run 10 full marathons than immigrating to the States. It's doable though. For some nationalities less for some more doable.

Don't immigrate to USA  

[LifeEnjoyer]

Yeah man I’m about to turn 21 and that’s when we’ll really go hard

[Raze]

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[LordFall]

On 3/29/2025 at 8:07 AM, something_else said:

Why America?

Especially right now, it does not seem like a place you want to be emigrating to for a variety of reasons

Chatting up tons of women in malls has the potential to get you into legal trouble, and getting into legal trouble as a foreigner right now is really risky

Wild take, have you ever ran into any issues that you're mentioning or you see articles online and get scared?

America is still more than likely the #1 country with the most opportunity for a young person that's motivated and ambitious. I also have never heard of a pickup guy getting into trouble except those that do some crazily creepy shit like following girls home or starting to get aggressive after they get rejected.

I've done pickup in Toronto in the famous eaton center where puas are "banned" and nothing happened. Calibration is a real thing.

I think spending your 20s in Miami even in a shitty apartment with 4 other roommates would be a great plan. Find other young dudes into game/business and that seems like a recipe for success. Get a random job and figure out life. 

[something_else]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

Wild take, have you ever ran into any issues that you're mentioning or you see articles online and get scared?

America is still more than likely the #1 country with the most opportunity for a young person that's motivated and ambitious. I also have never heard of a pickup guy getting into trouble except those that do some crazily creepy shit like following girls home or starting to get aggressive after they get rejected.

I've done pickup in Toronto in the famous eaton center where puas are "banned" and nothing happened. Calibration is a real thing.

I think spending your 20s in Miami even in a shitty apartment with 4 other roommates would be a great plan. Find other young dudes into game/business and that seems like a recipe for success. Get a random job and figure out life. 

It seems the rules are changing.
If you’re not rich, white, or American you’re going to be treated like a second class citizen (or worse) by the government

Not to mention a minor injury could already bankrupt you under the previous government even if you were moderately well off. That’s only going to get worse.

It seems the US isn’t a great place to be right now if you’re not already rich 

[LordFall]

Where else do you recommend? It's still vastly better and with more opportunity than pretty much any other country.

 I don't know what you mean second class citizen, that treatment is mostly for people that go directly against their political goals. I don't suggest attending any pro palestine rallies anytime soon but apart from that or like joining a communist organization I believe you'll be fine. 

Doing game in Miami is basically as inoculated from the political world as I could imagine. 

[something_else]

4 hours ago, LordFall said:

Where else do you recommend? It's still vastly better and with more opportunity than pretty much any other country.

 I don't know what you mean second class citizen, that treatment is mostly for people that go directly against their political goals. I don't suggest attending any pro palestine rallies anytime soon but apart from that or like joining a communist organization I believe you'll be fine. 

Doing game in Miami is basically as inoculated from the political world as I could imagine. 

Almost anywhere in Europe. To be honest I think daygame is often pretty scummy the way a lot of PUAs practice it anyway. I prefer nightlife and the US nightlife is extremely expensive, and on average, not that great for how much you pay compared to most of Europe.

The US govt is also shipping off non-white immigrants to Guantanamo. It’s meant to be just illegal ones, but from what I’ve heard plenty of legal immigrants are getting caught up in it too. I guess it’s hearsay, but overall the amount of awful things that are happening politically in the US right now make it seem like somewhere you don’t want to be as a non-American, especially if you’re not white.

It’s worsened if you’re doing anything that makes you seem sketchy, and spam approaching women on high streets certainly does that.

Funnily enough, I’m literally writing this from an airport in the UK waiting on a flight to the US, I’m kinda curious to see what the vibe is like there right now. Maybe it’s not as bad as world news makes it out to be

Edited March 31 by something_else

[Rishabh R]

@LifeEnjoyer Best of luck. May you find the girl of your dreams. 😂 

[Jannes]

I germany you can get into clubs when you are 16 as drinking beer is allowed at this age. At 18 all drings are allowed so you can get in most clubs no problem.

[LifeEnjoyer]

@Rishabh R Thank you my G!

[Rishabh R]

@LifeEnjoyerWhat does G! mean . Haha . 😂

Edited April 1 by Rishabh R

[LifeEnjoyer]

@Rishabh R My guy!

[Rishabh R]

@LifeEnjoyer Ok thanks.