Raze

⚠️ Caution: do not criticize Israel publicly if you are an immigrant to the US

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The Israel lobby is clamping down and have started arresting and deporting green card holders (legal permanent residents) who publicly criticize Israel.

Recent one:

She was arrested for this essay

There is also another student who was a legal permanent resident since she was 7, ICE is looking for her for attending a protest but it looks like she’s in hiding and trying to sue to prevent it. 

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I mentioned before israel has a network called Canary mission which doxxes israel critics in America, normally it’s to try and get them expelled or fired but it looks that they are now sourcing for raids.

If you are an immigrant or want to immigrate to the US don’t post criticism of Israel on anything associated with your real identity or in public, this could get you deported or not let in.

Also even if you’re a citizen if you ever want federal funding or a federal job some states have laws against endorsing a boycott of Israel that would block you from them. 
 

I believe this is in response to recent polls showing public approval for israel is declining, I know at least some of Trumps billionaire donors (such as Miriam Adelson and Bill Ackman) have endorsed this, so it’s possible it could become more extreme if it keeps lowering. 

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Phew, I was panicking for a second until I realized I’m a native.


I AM PIG
(but also, Linktree @ joy_yimpa ;-)

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Congrats America, you have a gestapo now - hope it was worth it for all the folks who sat this election out because they didn't think there was a meaningful difference between the two candidates.


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Come here and you can criticize the war how much you want and you will get quite a good support (No cynicism, this is true today).

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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I hope Europe supports palestine now that the u.s. has gone to the dark side.

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I made a thread already about this exact topic.

 


أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأشهد أن ليو رسول الله

Translation: I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and Leo [Gura] is the messenger of Allah.

 

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17 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

Those who criticize Israel but are unwilling to condemn Hamas are fooling themselves.

And vice versa

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2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Come here to Israel and you can criticize now the war how much you want and you will get quite a good support (No cynicism, this is true today).

They literally just canceled a guys citizenship for attending a protest and beat up and arrested someone for making a film about settlements 

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@Raze The protestors represent the part of the population who is anti the government, so the government tries to provoke the protests and to scare people with local viscious acts.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze The protestors represent the part of the population who is anti the government, so the government tries to provoke the protests and to scare people with local viscious acts.

Sounds like a great place to visit

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19 hours ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze The protestors represent the part of the population who is anti the government, so the government tries to provoke the protests and to scare people with local viscious acts.

Your country is insanely morally corrupt. Must be exhausting trying to defend it on this message board all the time.

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24 minutes ago, oldhandle said:

Your country is insanely morally corrupt. Must be exhausting trying to defend it on this message board all the time.

Nice projection


🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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I'm sorry this is slightly off-topic, but I honestly cannot understand why people dislike Israel. What in the world are they supposed to do when there is a horrible terrorist group made up of men who were raised to be sociopaths who will do anything to destroy Israel and harm its people.

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41 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

I'm sorry this is slightly off-topic, but I honestly cannot understand why people dislike Israel. What in the world are they supposed to do when there is a horrible terrorist group made up of men who were raised to be sociopaths who will do anything to destroy Israel and harm its people.

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, carterfelder said:

I'm sorry this is slightly off-topic, but I honestly cannot understand why people dislike Israel. What in the world are they supposed to do when there is a horrible terrorist group made up of men who were raised to be sociopaths who will do anything to destroy Israel and harm its people.

Oh totally, we really don’t see why people dislike Israel - must be something about the whole having their boot on the neck of Palestinians thing. And every time those Palestinians gasp for air, resist or lash out in a savage manner due to being cornered - they’re instantly labeled terrorists, dehumanized, and told they were raised to be sociopaths by the same colonial forces that used to do this in black and white and now do it in HD. But yeah, no clue why anyone would have an issue with that.

 

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6 hours ago, zazen said:

And every time those Palestinians gasp for air, resist or lash out in a savage manner due to being cornered

You miss out the psychopatic qualities of hamas actions to this day. Just see the last video they released of the hostages. This is far beyond just Palestinians who got cornered. Something additional is going on here.

hamas are more like the far-right extremist settlers who are ideologists and want all the land without any added context needed.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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4 hours ago, Nivsch said:

You miss out the psychopatic qualities of hamas actions to this day. Just see the last video they released of the hostages. This is far beyond just Palestinians who got cornered. Something additional is going on here.

hamas are more like the far-right extremist settlers who are ideologists and want all the land without any added context needed.

Hamas viciousness is in part due to a lack of viable ways for Palestinians to meaningfully change their political situation that doesn't involve extreme violence and blurring the line between combatants and civilians. Imagine if Ukraine was completely alone in it's war. The likelihood of Ukraine targeting Russian civilians would be much higher.

Not to justify targeting killing of civilians but two things can be true at once. Israel is responsible for the extreme hostility close to its borders.

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1 minute ago, Basman said:

Hamas viciousness is in part due to a lack of viable ways for Palestinians to meaningfully change their political situation that doesn't involve extreme violence and blurring the line between combatants and civilians. Imagine if Ukraine was completely alone in it's war. The likelihood of Ukraine targeting Russian civilians would be much higher.

Not to justify targeting killing of civilians but two things can be true at once. Israel is responsible for the extreme hostility close to its borders.

What about the islamists who committed killing sprees in europe and other places?

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