Where Exactly Do Leo's Teaching Differ From Nonduality?

[Girzo]

20 minutes ago, bazera said:

What do you think about dailiy 1-2 hour meditation?

It's required to sustain the results of your last 200 hrs retreat until the next one. It's not as beneficial if it's the only thing you are doing. If you have 1-2 hrs I think it's better to do yoga, because you can still the mind but also work the body.

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, so, basically, meditation for discipline and psychedelics for awakening?

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Meditation rewires the brain/mind in ways that psychedelics cannot. Hardcore meditation sharpens perception in important ways.

Psychedelics also sharpen perception but in ways that just don't last long enough.

Meditation also forces the mind to confront difficult emotional labor that is different from psychedelics. Meditation forces you to confront boredom and addictions in a very serious way that psychedelics cannot.

If you haven't done a 200hr retreat you really should. It will be hell, but you'll also learn a lot.

Meditation literally don't exist. 

Some brain can be in permanent meditation.

If the things I do bring me nothing, then I m in meditation. 

[Butters]

@Leo Gura I do 20 minutes of meditation daily. I would love to do a retreat but it will take some time to fully have my business set up, generating income and also being 100% outsourced and running in my absence. Hell, I might wait until after I've sold my ecommerce business before I would do a retreat. It's impractical. 

[QVx]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Meditation rewires the brain/mind in ways that psychedelics cannot. Hardcore meditation sharpens perception in important ways.

Psychedelics also sharpen perception but in ways that just don't last long enough.

Meditation also forces the mind to confront difficult emotional labor that is different from psychedelics. Meditation forces you to confront boredom and addictions in a very serious way that psychedelics cannot.

If you haven't done a 200hr retreat you really should. It will be hell, but you'll also learn a lot.

@Leo Gura, do you have any resources you can recommend for this?

Such as books, videos, teachers etc that are superior in your view?

Your latest blog post refers to Plotinus as key source within western philosophy, would you have a similar recommendation in respect of meditation?

[Yimpa]

3 hours ago, Butters said:

Hell, I might wait until after I've sold my ecommerce business before I would do a retreat.

You're retreating from the retreat 

The point of a serious retreat is to do it when it's the least convenient for you.

Edited Monday at 07:57 PM by Yimpa

[Husseinisdoingfine]

On 3/24/2025 at 4:38 AM, Leo Gura said:

The game everyone is playing is avoiding just sitting down under a tree for 200hrs of non-stop meditation.

If you look at every human being: academics, scientists, politicians, CEOs, New Agers, right-wingers, progressives, influencers, celebrities, etc -- all they're doing is just a clever strategy of avoiding sitting under that tree.

They will do anything, say anything, they will riot -- all just to avoiding sitting under that tree.

That's what it all boils down to. Because sitting under that tree is the death of all their bullshit.

https://www.actualized.org/insights/explaining-take-down-new-awakening

This is a very new shift in tone from you, because in the past you described meditation as 'bullsh*t', especially in your blog video explaining why you took down the solipsism video, but now meditation is the death of 'bullsh*t'.

Which is it?

[Butters]

23 hours ago, Yimpa said:

You're retreating from the retreat 

The point of a serious retreat is to do it when it's the least convenient for you.

That's silly, nobody takes years building a business to then destroy it by going to a retreat. You sell it and then go. 

Although this morning my internet died which forced me into a mini home retreat 😁

[Yimpa]

Nondualists claim that the homeless person at the 7Eleven is illusory.

I am claiming that that’s LOVE.

[Butters]

Just now, Yimpa said:

Nondualists claim that the homeless person at the 7Eleven is illusory.

I am claiming that that’s LOVE.

I once saw a crazy lady just laughing and laughing for no reason. I got jealous.