Democrats have record unfavorability towards their own party

[Raze]

And this was before Schumer and ten others voted to avert the shutdown, which even enraged the house democrats. 

I would like to say this will lead to a change, but if I had to bet it will just lead to the same ideological neoliberal establishment dems being elected by just changing their messaging to sound more populist. Democrats have fallen for that act many times. 

Edited Sunday at 01:05 AM by Raze

[Hardkill]

I know.....

It's very sad.

However, notice how much less neoliberal the Democratic party has gotten in policy. Remember, Biden shockingly turned out to be the most left-wing president in economic policy since LBJ in the 1960s and the most pro-union president since FDR or Truman.

I honestly think that Democrats should stay about civil rights and anything else pertaining to social justice, except for climate change, while focus on bread-and-butter economics like FDR did. 

They may actually have to be racist in a subtle manner, but economically progressive like Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt were until the racism and xenophobia in our country cools down one day in order to win back the working class,  especially the white working class.

 

Edited Sunday at 01:44 AM by Hardkill

[Lyubov]

The pendulum will swing back left, even if it’s as an opposition party to a dictator. Keep in mind 15 million more people voted for Biden than Harris. She just wasn’t a good candidate, her campaign wasn’t good. Trump ran a very strong fear based campaign. Dems need a hero.

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

The pendulum will swing back left, even if it’s as an opposition party to a dictator. Keep in mind 15 million more people voted for Biden than Harris. She just wasn’t a good candidate, her campaign wasn’t good. Trump ran a very strong fear based campaign. Dems need a hero.

Correction: 6 million more people who voted for Biden in 2020 than Harris in 2024. 

Also, I thought she ran a better campaign than Hillary Clinton did in 2016 and better than Trump's campaign in 2016, 2020, 2024. In fact, Trump's 2024 campaign was the worst ever. He just had a more clever media strategy than she did.

Plus, the unprecedented misinformation, the right-wing propaganda machine, the rise of social media/internet, the rest of the anti-mainstream media in this day and age had brainwashed too many voters into believing that Biden/Harris and the Democrats didn't govern the country well. 

Moreover, racism, misogyny, and xenophobia our country is still experiencing has made it extremely difficult if not impossible for women of color like Harris to win the presidency. The US is still going through a conservative social backlash.

Not to mention the historic levels of income inequality and unjust levels of affordability in country.

All of those factors combined caused this anti-incumbent party sentiment in our country, especially amongst the less politically engaged and less informed voters out there in the country.

 

Edited Sunday at 05:05 AM by Hardkill

[DocWatts]

11 hours ago, Raze said:

And this was before Schumer and ten others voted to avert the shutdown, which even enraged the house democrats. 

I would like to say this will lead to a change, but if I had to bet it will just lead to the same ideological neoliberal establishment dems being elected by just changing their messaging to sound more populist. Democrats have fallen for that act many times. 

It's completely deserved - and it's going to keep cratering as long as Democratic leadership is content to treat a fascist coup as 'business as usual'.

Meanwhile Bernie and AOC are drawing crowds of tens of thousands of people on their Stop Oligarchy Tour. The pro-democracy resistance is alive and well within the United States, and it needs to extend into the Democratic Party. 'Adapt or become irrelevant'.

We need to be demanding much more from our elected representatives. No one is coming to save us, and waiting for midterm elections is dangerously naive (no guarantee at all that we'll even still have free and fair elections by 2026).

Ordinary people need to be taking to the streets in protest, calling their elected representatives, attending town halls, participating in boycotts, combatting MAGA propaganda, having uncomfortable conversations with people in our lives who've tuned out of politics since the election.

Edited Sunday at 12:57 PM by DocWatts

[PurpleTree]

The two party system is just utter trash.

[Applegarden8]

Just wait until 2028, Trump is bringing Dems back to life with his actions.

[DocWatts]

29 minutes ago, Applegarden8 said:

Just wait until 2028, Trump is bringing Dems back to life with his actions.

No guarantee that 2028 (or 2026 for that matter) will be a free and fair election without a sustained public pressure campaign to slow down Trump's dismantling of our democracy.

We need to move forward with the reasonable assumption that voter suppression tactics will be on overdrive, and that Trump and his Project 2025 backers will be attempting to subvert upcoming elections.

This isn't a call to abstain from voting - just the opposite. It's a call for ordinary people to participate in politics between elections. Both ordinary people and our legislators need to loudly and boldly combat the firehouse of lies that MAGA will be using to justify these attempts. 

Which is to say, elections still matter! 2026 will be our best chance at obstructing Trump's regime in a procedurally meaningful way, but we can't sit back on our haunches and wait for midterms to save us. We need to be proactive in defending institutions over the next year and a half.

And for what it's worth, a useful parallel here is the 1933 German elections - the first and only multiparty election after Hitler was appointed to Chancellor. Despite widespread voter intimidation and threats of physical violence, the Nazis won only %44 of the vote - well short of a majority. Unlike America in 2025, 1933 Germany didn't have a vibrant pro-democracy movement or functional courts - so keep fighting!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election

[Breathe]

10 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

No guarantee that 2028 (or 2026 for that matter) will be a free and fair election

This.

[Applegarden8]

4 hours ago, DocWatts said:

No guarantee that 2028 (or 2026 for that matter) will be a free and fair election without a sustained public pressure campaign to slow down Trump's dismantling of our democracy.

We need to move forward with the reasonable assumption that voter suppression tactics will be on overdrive, and that Trump and his Project 2025 backers will be attempting to subvert upcoming elections.

This isn't a call to abstain from voting - just the opposite. It's a call for ordinary people to participate in politics between elections. Both ordinary people and our legislators need to loudly and boldly combat the firehouse of lies that MAGA will be using to justify these attempts. 

Which is to say, elections still matter! 2026 will be our best chance at obstructing Trump's regime in a procedurally meaningful way, but we can't sit back on our haunches and wait for midterms to save us. We need to be proactive in defending institutions over the next year and a half.

And for what it's worth, a useful parallel here is the 1933 German elections - the first and only multiparty election after Hitler was appointed to Chancellor. Despite widespread voter intimidation and threats of physical violence, the Nazis won only %44 of the vote - well short of a majority. Unlike America in 2025, 1933 Germany didn't have a vibrant pro-democracy movement or functional courts - so keep fighting!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election

I agree that US in a crisis right now. I live in the Baltics so, I might have other problems like invasion from the east. But yeah, USA was doing so good, even with all it's problems.