Neo-Nazis Use Graham Hancock's Theories

[Emerald]

@Leo Gura Who would have thought that someone whose work theorizes and waxes poetic about a mythological past where there were ancient advanced civilizations that were once great and then fell would be attractive to Fascists. 

This is just par of the course for nationalistic Fascist types or even just run of the mill nationalists from other countries outside of the US... but you don't see a lot of this with American nationalists because America is such a new country. So, we build our country's nationalist mythos differently than older countries build their nationalist mythos.

Instead, you only see this "we were once a great ancient people until they took us down" around the concept of race in more niche Neo-Nazi echo chambers, since there is more of a taboo against racism that isn't there with nationalism (which can be framed as patriotism).

But my husband is Hungarian, and he knows some run-of-the million Hungarian nationalists, who are as passionate about Hungary as American nationalists are about America.

And it wasn't too uncommon for them to believe some wild pseudoscientific stories like... "Here's the REAL story about the ancient Hungarians who once were the dominant world power and were responsible for ALL innovations in the great early civilizations."

This is me paraphrasing what I remember from reading one of these articles that one of his friends posted on FB like 10 years ago...

'Hungarians were the original people who were behind all the advanced civilizations in the world. In fact, it was Hungarians who taught the Ancient Egyptians how to build the pyramids. And Hungarians used to be the dominant people in the world, until (fill in x group) came and oppressed them and stole credit for all of the things Hungarians created.'

So, when you have a "historian" who talks about Atlantis... and how it was once a great civilization and then fell, it tracks on nicely with the Fascist tendency to put the archetypal "myth of the golden age" in some idealized past that never actually existed.

The concept of Atlantis in general is a great "blank screen" that Fascists (and run-of-the-mill nationalist types) can project their mythologized past onto.

Edited 17 hours ago by Emerald

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Emerald said:

'Hungarians were the original people who were behind all the advanced civilizations in the world. In fact, it was Hungarians who taught the Ancient Egyptians how to build the pyramids. And Hungarians used to be the dominant people in the world, until (fill in x group) came and oppressed them and stole credit for all of the things Hungarians created.'

New level of delusion unlocked, haha.

Edited 11 hours ago by Leo Gura

[enchanted]

On 19/03/2025 at 8:20 PM, Leo Gura said:

This is wild:

 

Just Wow

[Basman]

The irony of racial purity is that cross-breeding different ethnicities is actually slightly beneficial in terms of health and beauty.

[enchanted]

@Emerald 'Hungarians were the original people who were behind all the advanced civilizations in the world. In fact, it was Hungarians who taught the Ancient Egyptians how to build the pyramids. And Hungarians used to be the dominant people in the world, until (fill in x group) came and oppressed them and stole credit for all of the things Hungarians created.'

 

I've heard this exact same thing from Hungarians at the church I grew up in. Alot of Hungarians at the Catholic Church are also Nazi sympathizers and long for the days when Hungary gets it's land back it lost after the war.

[gambler]

9 minutes ago, Basman said:

The irony of racial purity is that cross-breeding different ethnicities is actually slightly beneficial in terms of health and beauty.

The irony is that everyone is mixed. And mixing has always happened. It never has stopped and will never stop. 

[Schizophonia]

14 hours ago, gambler said:

Sorry, I wrongly assumed the Basque were similar to Sardinians. They actually differ in they have a surge of WHG ancestry. Though I still think they aren’t the most European, but I don’t know. 

In this principal component analysis, seems like some of the grey triangles (representing different European individuals from various ethnicities) marked N_Europe is closer to the indigenous and least admixed ancient European population of WHGs. 

 

By the way this is a bit of an awkward PCA, I’m pretty sure it removed non west Eurasian elements from South Central Asians, so they plot closer to the steppe herders than they should. 

From what I remember, it was in relation to haplogroups.
The most common haplogroup among modern Europeans was the English and some French or people from northern Spain. From this perspective, the Basques (unless I'm confusing them) and inhabitants of certain regions of England were the purest Europeans.
The Germans and Scandinavians were proportionally closer to Slavs and Asians.
If what I'm saying makes sense.

[Basman]

56 minutes ago, gambler said:

The irony is that everyone is mixed. And mixing has always happened. It never has stopped and will never stop. 

You could always be more mixed I guess. If Neo-nazis don't understand genealogy then it makes sense that they perceive there to be such a thing racial purity. There is such a thing as ethnic homogeneity, which is more about identity than genetics. Arguably, racial purity is a backwards rationalization so it doesn't really matter if it's accurate or true in essence.

[Scholar]

14 hours ago, Emerald said:

'Hungarians were the original people who were behind all the advanced civilizations in the world. In fact, it was Hungarians who taught the Ancient Egyptians how to build the pyramids. And Hungarians used to be the dominant people in the world, until (fill in x group) came and oppressed them and stole credit for all of the things Hungarians created.'

This is exactly what is going on in China as we speak. It's just stage blue nationalism.

There are chinese scientists who make the case that mankind originated from China rather than africa. It's similar to how the Russian nationalists will claim that ancient greece was a product of russian culture. It gives legitimacy to imperialistic and superiority thinking.