If we live in the same world ..why nobody agrees on anything?

[Someone here]

14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

There's cause and effect appearing but it's the Absolute appearing as cause and effect. All the differences of opinions is the Absolute appearing as people having differences of opinions. It appears as linear, it appears as separation and it appears as everything that's appearing. It appears as denial of cause and effect, it appears as....you name it. 

Everything is empty and has no separate reality on it's own. You think they're people having differences of opinions because you think you're a separate being with opinions of your own so you see everything that appears in relation to you. Youre the supposedly center of the universe and you see others because you think you're an other. They are all just bodies and it's just voices and talking. It's free to appear as anything and appears as differences of opinion. Doesn't matter what I say, 'cause it's just the Absolute saying it and the Absolute reading it. Not really though, because there's just typing and reading with nothing behind it. It's freedom happening. Thoughts, feelings, disagreements, whatever, it's all Absolute happening. It also appears as a sense of separation. Which is where we come in and it's everything you think you know humans to be because it's also appearing as knowing. Knowing is an illusion that arises with the energy of me. That's our apparent demise because we're on a quest to know. We know we are but because we're not we keep seeking to know, but it never happens because there's no one to know anything since it's the Absolute appearing as such. It's fucked up. We're fucked. Not really. Freedom appearing as fucked. 

 

I understand all that BTW.  It's good that you are so "done " with it all and you have seen through the cosmic joke . But you are being so much of an absolutist. We can still explain phenomenon with relative knowledge .The human mind perceives reality by creating ideas about everything it perceives. The human mind defines and names everything it experienc.and then it creates descriptions of what it is..what it means and how it works. We can be aware of the illusionness of everything but still lose ourselves in the movie . Cuz it's fun

 

[Someone here]

3 hours ago, Atb210201 said:

We have different opinions about what is right and good and what is wrong and bad.

That's why we go on different roads and maybe even our roads are in conflict with each other and can't quite go together sometimes.

Someone sees one road's end as harmful and dangerous and someone else sees the other road's end as harmful and dangerous, so the roads clash in an attempt of protection from the dangerous ends of the roads.

It's a matter of cause and effect that we differ on.

We see different causes and different effects so we have to go to war.

Sorry but i don't think you added anything here . You basically rephrased my OP.

haven't Answered .

 

[Schizophonia]

Everyone’s agree Leo is bald.

[Someone here]

@Schizophonia you silly boy you . When you gonna marry "her" ?

[Schizophonia]

15 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Schizophonia you silly boy you .
 

Kiss

15 minutes ago, Someone here said:

When you gonna marry "her" ?

Who her ? 

[Eskilon]

How do you know we live in the same world? That isn't obvious!!!

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Eskilon said:

How do you know we live in the same world? That isn't obvious!!!

That's correct.  Well it's just an axiom I assumed. I have to start somewhere right ?

[Eskilon]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

That's correct.  Well it's just an axiom I assumed. I have to start somewhere right ?

Maybe you don't though. Maybe the devil is in the axiom and the asnwer lies in not starting anything🤔

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Maybe you don't though. Maybe the devil is in the axiom and the asnwer lies in not starting anything🤔

Could be. 

[Atb210201]

53 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Sorry but i don't think you added anything here . You basically rephrased my OP.

haven't Answered .

 

Yes I didn't answer anything that wasn't my intention.

I wanted to rephrase sorry if I didn't answer anything I don't know the answer myself.

Edited 15 hours ago by Atb210201

[Someone here]

12 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Yes I didn't answer anything that wasn't my intention.

I wanted to rephrase sorry if I didn't answer anything I don't know the answer myself.

Thats fine man .all good .thank you for participating. 

[Hojo]

@Someone here Im not taking it too far science literally has proven you dont have a brain when you aren't looking at it. When you stop looking at something it de solidifies and turns into waves of light. This is proven by science that means you have no brain cause no one has ever looked at it. The inside of your body is hollow like a 3d modeled character in a video game its just empty space with a texture on it. Does the 3d character have 3 dimensions to it on your computer? No its a 2d thing pretending to be 3d. Scientist has measuring their 2d headset and are getting confused that its 3d the same way you feel like you are in a 3d world while playing virtual reality when its just a 2d square or ball of light that seems as if you can move around in it.

The double slit experiment says the around the edges of your eyes that is blurry that you are not focused on is not blurry because of your eyes you are seeing reality as it is. If you have your couch at the edge of your perceptual field and its wavy and not solid that is reality, not your eyes fucking up or some sort of perceptual thing. Its literally the object desolidifying.

Edited 13 hours ago by Hojo

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Someone here Im not taking it too far science literally has proven you dont have a brain when you aren't looking at it. When you stop looking at something it de solidifies and turns into waves of light. This is proven by science that means you have no brain cause no one has ever looked at it. The inside of your body is hollow like a 3d modeled character in a video game its just empty space with a texture on it. Does the 3d character have 3 dimensions to it on your computer? No its a 2d thing pretending to be 3d. Scientist has measuring their 2d headset and are getting confused that its 3d the same way you feel like you are in a 3d world while playing virtual reality when its just a 2d square or ball of light that seems as if you can move around in it.

The double slit experiment says the around the edges of your eyes that is blurry that you are not focused on is not blurry because of your eyes you are seeing reality as it is. If you have your couch at the edge of your perceptual field and its wavy and not solid that is reality, not your eyes fucking up or some sort of perceptual thing. Its literally the object desolidifying.

I understand your perspective brother.  Its just I'm afraid of going all the way to not lose my mind basically.  Your mind is like a  quantum computer that keeps processing shit without stop .just take a break and relax and unwind a little.  For me personally i value happiness and sanity more than truth .

[Atb210201]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Thats fine man .all good .thank you for participating. 

Love you brother.

Although one way to answer this is that we do not live in the same world.

We have 8 billion people with 8 billion worlds in their minds.

So the world is not out there but inside each of us and every world is different to the other to some extent.

Edited 12 hours ago by Atb210201

[Someone here]

16 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Love you brother.

Although one way to answer this is that we do not live in the same world.

We have 8 billion people with 8 billion worlds in their minds.

So the world is not out there but inside each of us and every world is different to the other to some extent.

Yes that seems like a solid reason . Reminds of the parable of the elephant and six blind men ..each one touching a body part of the elephant mistaking it as the whole elephant. 

[Atb210201]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Yes that seems like a solid reason . Reminds of the parable of the elephant and six blind men ..each one touching a body part of the elephant mistaking it as the whole elephant. 

Yes, exactly, that's a very good story for this.

[Hojo]

@Someone here yes it is hard and don't blame you for not wanting too. But you are on the path dont hate or be scared of the path. This life is like a deep breathe in for a God that is completely mad before he plunges back into the insanity . Keep in mind you might be more scared of it than it actually is. It might be fun you dont know(you have already done it before innumerable times)The people you see that are crazy on the street are a different kind of crazy than what I am talking about.

It would just be a shame to be on your death bed and then realize insanity and instead if saying oh yes you say oh no because you didn't like the idea of it. You can open up to insanity and it be the same thing as normal but just opening up to it will help.

I should also take a break as I have been thinking about this for 4 years 10 hours a day non stop. I should go on a vacation.

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

9 hours ago, Someone here said:

I understand all that BTW.  It's good that you are so "done " with it all and you have seen through the cosmic joke . But you are being so much of an absolutist. We can still explain phenomenon with relative knowledge .The human mind perceives reality by creating ideas about everything it perceives. The human mind defines and names everything it experienc.and then it creates descriptions of what it is..what it means and how it works. We can be aware of the illusionness of everything but still lose ourselves in the movie . Cuz it's fun

 

Yeah I get that but when you ask a question like that, I think it's just appropriate to answer in that way in the Spirituality section as I know you'll understand what I'm saying. I don't go around life being an absolutist and where else can we talk like that but on here.

The practical answer I would give to your question is that we're all different and were raised differently with different upbringings and with different survival strategies. I mean, that's like a kindergarten question if it's going to be answered practically, respectfully speaking. It's obvious that we're all different so we're going to have differences of opinions. I just can't get back to the surface level of thinking anymore much when it comes to spirituality because once seen it's hard to unsee even if I'm mistaken with what I'm saying. 

I'm not an absolutist in the dating/relationship section or health section, it's mostly just here and in my journal. 

[Nemra]

@Someone here, we are imagining others having a conscious experience separate from ours.