AwakenwithJP and leap backwards in spiral dynamics

[Applegarden8]

This guy was lecturing about emotional intelligence, mindfulness, meditation and all the good stuff that makes you feel good and is a device that is supposed to drive you out from republican agenda. And he literally fell back, endorsed it completely and acts like nothing happened. There has to be immense cognitive dissonance knowing what some degree of awakening feels like and how it makes you cognize the world and embracing whatever republican party feeds you. It’s such an obvious falling back to embrace wealth, recognition etc. instead of embracing unity, wellbeing of the individual and the collective, value of truth, no matter where it is, in this case, concern for the dealing with the aggressor instead of doubling down with the Trump.

What do you guys think? What a change of character ain't it? Hahaha, wow I can't believe I am witnessing this corruption.

Edited Tuesday at 08:21 PM by Applegarden8

[Leo Gura]

He didn't fall backward, he was always backward.

He was always an ignorant right-wing troll who mocked and demonized Green for cheap laughs. Then Covid broke his brain.

[Applegarden8]

@Leo Gura i don't know his whole story. In the earlier video I saw pretty good capacity to contemplate his own feelings. Maybe he borrows it from somebody else as it usually is, but to have such an Alex Jones order of magnitude of a blindspot is just massive.

Could be that he is just a Robert Tilton style grifter, who saw a better grift, but just more refined at it.

If it's the case that he regressed, I just see that person as the biggest loser that appears to be doing fine. That is because, unlike Trump, he had the tools, flexibility and capacity acquired and he abandoned that sense, where as Trump never seemed to embrace it.

But your argument also makes sense.

Edited Tuesday at 08:38 PM by Applegarden8

[Leo Gura]

In every video I saw of him, and I've seen quite a few, he was trolling Green from below, not from above.

His videos make it appear like he's trolling Green from above. Which would be intelligent and funny. But then you realize he is so ignorant he's trolling from below, which is just pathetic.

Edited Tuesday at 09:00 PM by Leo Gura

[Cocolove]

Yea I used to think it was from above and was shocked. He sure made it seem that way. Don't think he just went backwards though.

[Daniel Balan]

52 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He didn't fall backward, he was always backward.

He was always an ignorant right-wing troll who mocked and demonized Green for cheap laughs. Then Covid broke his brain.

Without even reading this forum post, just by glancing at the face of that youtuber from the thumbnail, I've instantly assumed that the post is about a right wing, conspiracy theorist, that bullshits all day long on stage green!  Literally those right wingers have within their facial physiognomy something that signals to the trained eye that they are stupid AF. I can recognize within a split second just by looking at someone's face if he is a fucking right wing grifter. 

Why is that? Does piss poor epistemology and corruption reveal itself by structural changes within the body? They all look sloppy and have a facial structure of a man that sleeps under a bridge. 

Edited Tuesday at 09:04 PM by Daniel Balan

[Rafael Thundercat]

16 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

Without even reading this forum post, just by glancing at the face of that youtuber from the thumbnail, I've instantly assumed that the post is about a right wing, conspiracy theorist, that bullshits all day long on stage green!  Literally those right wingers have within their facial physiognomy something that signals to the trained eye that they are stupid AF. I can recognize within a split second just by looking at someone's face if he is a fucking right wing grifter. 

Why is that? Does piss poor epistemology and corruption reveal itself by structural changes within the body? They all look sloppy and have a facial structure of a man that sleeps under a bridge. 

Heheheh good one. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

This is what one get when one dont do shadow work. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

Without even reading this forum post, just by glancing at the face of that youtuber from the thumbnail, I've instantly assumed that the post is about a right wing, conspiracy theorist, that bullshits all day long on stage green!  Literally those right wingers have within their facial physiognomy something that signals to the trained eye that they are stupid AF. I can recognize within a split second just by looking at someone's face if he is a fucking right wing grifter. 

Be careful about jumping to conclusions. It will stun your development.

Please be more tactful. You're starting to sound unhinged with calling people apes and so on.

Even if people behave like fools, maintain your poise. Don't lower yourself to their level.

[Daniel Balan]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Be careful about jumping to conclusions. It will stun your development.

Please be more tactful. You're starting to sound unhinged with calling people apes and so on.

Even if people behave like fools, maintain your poise. Don't lower yourself to their level.

Agreed! But because I am 99% procent of the time surrounded by stage red people I have a very vulgar language sometimes. But my point still stands. Because I have lived all my life only around these people I developed a sixth sense which instantly detects these RW conspiracy theorist rednecks. Look, you have a beard too, Daniel Smachtenberger too has a huge untrimmed beard, but I would have never assumed that you guys are right wingers. There is something about your faces and eyes that signal to my brain purity and gentleness. And also selflesness. But when I see an Alex Jones, or a Tucker Carlson, or any other rw comentator, their facial expressions signal to me corruption and filthy salesman energy. 

Edited Tuesday at 11:44 PM by Daniel Balan

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

But when I see an Alex Jones, or a Tucker Carlson, or any other rw comentator, their facial expressions signal to me corruption and filthy salesman energy. 

Of course vibes are real. You can feel the vibes of an unconscious, selfish, untruthful person.

Trump is the clearest example of smarmy toxic vibes.

But you also have to be very careful because the mind will see what it wants to see. If you want to hate someone your mind will invent a rationale for it.

Edited Tuesday at 11:59 PM by Leo Gura

[Daniel Balan]

@Leo Gura  

Why does someone like me, who openly acknowledges being at Stage Red myself and admits to being somewhat unhinged, feel negative vibes just by looking at someone like Trump and these right-wing, brainwashed conspiracy theorists, while others seem to perceive the exact opposite from their vibe? Could it be that the citizenry is actually as corrupt as Trump is? That's why I call people apes. It's because I feel like the term describes their selfish behaviour best. In the end everyone receives their just reward. And because in a democracy majority rules, Trump is exactly what we deserve. 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

@Leo Gura  

Why does someone like me, who openly acknowledges being at Stage Red myself and admits to being somewhat unhinged, feel negative vibes just by looking at someone like Trump and these right-wing, brainwashed conspiracy theorists, while others seem to perceive the exact opposite from their vibe?

Because you have more consciousness and less corruption.

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Could it be that the citizenry is actually as corrupt as Trump is?

Obviously that's the case.

But corrupt here means something much more subtle and profound than illegal activity.

Human civilization is awash in corruption. It's stunning once you see it. The corruption is a bottomless ocean.

But also, you need to see the good in people too.

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That's why I call people apes. It's because I feel like the term describes their selfish behaviour best. In the end everyone receives their just reward. And because in a democracy majority rules, Trump is exactly what we deserve. 

Remember, people are complex. They are odd mixtures of goodness and corruption. Just like you. There is good in you but you are also selfish and ignorant. You're doing the best your consciousness can see.

Edited yesterday at 12:13 AM by Leo Gura

[Daniel Balan]

@Leo Gura Thank you Leo! Each time I open the blog and the forum you open my eyes bit by bit more everyday. You made me aware that corruption is something as subtle as not keeping one's room tidy. Basically corruption is every time you choose to behave selfishly as oposed to selflessly. Sorry if I expressed myself in an unhinged way. I am perfectly aware of my unhealthy anti-human mental paradigm which I developed after a lifelong of living among stage red. I am a highly sensitive and tenderhearted, emphatic person and I guess this is what kind of mental state you develop if you are born in the wrong environment. I'm basically a stage red person with a stage green heart and soul.

Edited yesterday at 12:39 AM by Daniel Balan

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

You made me aware that corruption is something as subtle as not keeping one's room tidy.

Pretty sure that's Jordan Peterson.

Haha

[Daniel Balan]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Pretty sure that's Jordan Peterson.

Haha

100% it isn't because I never watched content of him, besides your video of yours on him. It was just an example I came with. 🙂 

[Salvijus]

8 hours ago, Applegarden8 said:

 

 

🤣😂😂 (2min30sec mark of the first video) 

Edited yesterday at 01:04 AM by Salvijus

[Emerald]

I used to think he was doing satire on new age hippie types from a place of genuine appreciation and loving critique of spiritual community mores.

And it was quite surprising when he started doing these critiques from a mean-spirited place. But then, there was the realization that he was always mean-spirited.

And the problem is... you can't really be funny if you come from a place of genuine hate for something. It just becomes bitterness and hatred disguised as jokes, but that aren't really jokes.

That's also why political cartoons aren't really funny. 

So, he went from having the veneer of a light-hearted new age satire channel to just plain petty bitter partisan mean-spiritedness.

I feel similarly to this lefty YouTuber who has the first name Steve (though I can't recall his full name)... though he isn't as blatant as JP.

He'll do little comedy skits about the right wing in politics from time to time... and I feel validated in many of my feelings and opinions. But I don't find it funny... because it's coming from a place of bitter grievance.

 

[Lyubov]

Am I the only one who completely forgot about this guy for years until this thread? 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Emerald said:

And it was quite surprising when he started doing these critiques from a mean-spirited place. But then, there was the realization that he was always mean-spirited.

What a recontextualization, eh?