Good looking guys getting rejected at clubs

[LordFall]

8 hours ago, Antor8188 said:

@Leo Gura if average lookin guy like me gets rejected OK understandable but I've even seen decent lookin guys 7/10 getting brutally rejected told to f off. I mean women don't wanna get approached at all at clubs seeing them getting rejected made me less motivated I was like if this dude gets told to f off I have no chance. 

I'm a pretty good looking guy but I'm an INTP without that much extraversion so I don't do well in night game and mostly pull through online dating. You gotta find what works for you and try everything in the meanwhile.

I'm also pretty good at systems thinking so social circle game works wonders for me but the escalation part is a bit hard. 

[Raze]

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Edited Tuesday at 11:42 PM by Raze

[Princess Arabia]

Women don't care much about looks; that's just a bonus and maybe a plus at online dating because there's nothing else much to go off.

Edited yesterday at 12:12 AM by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

10 hours ago, Antor8188 said:

I've even seen decent lookin guys 7/10 getting brutally rejected told to f off.

You might have also seen the end of the relations where he was probably being rude or being disrespectful. 

[ExploringReality]

@Princess Arabia

That's usually the case lol. It's always more mature to be kind even after a rejection or uninterested from the other person.

[Norbert Somogyi]

Looks mean little if your 'game' is shit. Vibe appears to be much more influental, in my experience too.

Furthermore I don't think even those with proper game and vibes can just get any girl. Rejections will still be the majority, however you can use those as stepping stones in building state and eventually accomplishing something.

[Michael569]

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

If your Oedipus complex has gone badly (very present and often authoritarian mother, bad relationship with the father then father substitutes (teachers, friends...)), you will be tempted to ruminate and seek to demonstrate the proof that you are useless, of the vanity of your existence in general, to finally be able to recover your power (=phallic position) inhibited by the unconscious, repressed incestuous temptation.

I smell chat GPT all the way to the English channel

[something_else]

9 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Women don't care much about looks; that's just a bonus and maybe a plus at online dating because there's nothing else much to go off.

I mean that’s just not true. A lot of women do care about looks quite a bit.

[Yimpa]

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Good looking guys getting rejected at clubs

I’ve rejected a woman before — at a Club Car Wash.

Ugly has no gender.

[meta_male]

18 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@meta_male @Antor8188

If your Oedipus complex has gone badly (very present and often authoritarian mother, bad relationship with the father then father substitutes (teachers, friends...)), you will be tempted to ruminate and seek to demonstrate the proof that you are useless, of the vanity of your existence in general, to finally be able to recover your power (=phallic position) inhibited by the unconscious, repressed incestuous temptation.

You have to learn to be phallic; And that translates into a querulous masculine energy that resembles a god syndrome.

What are you talking about? Did you mean to @ me?

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, Michael569 said:

I smell chat GPT all the way to the English channel

lol

 

[Schizophonia]

36 minutes ago, meta_male said:

What are you talking about? Did you mean to @ me?

This is a free aside, you can throw it in the trash if you're not interested.

Edited 17 hours ago by Schizophonia

[RendHeaven]

21 hours ago, something_else said:

I'm pretty good looking, to the point where I'll get approached first in clubs a fair bit. Yet still probably 80%+ of the time, if I approach first it's a harsh rejection. 

He's not lying folks, total chad.

Damn 80%+ reject rate

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That's inspiring!

[something_else]

Just now, RendHeaven said:

Damn 80%+ reject rate

I mostly just focus on enjoying myself in clubs, and when I do that, approaches don’t even feel like approaches. They just happen naturally. You meet people by having fun with your friends in a busy place, and conversations will flow from there. Because of this, it's kind of hard for me to give an accurate estimate of a 'rejection rate'

But of the times I've actually seen a girl in a club and decided to go up and talk to her out of nowhere, I'd say 10-20% success rate (by which I mean she actually talked to me and seemed interested, not necessarily anything more) seems reasonable.

I won’t lie, I do rely on my looks as a bit of a crutch which might mean the advice I give of "just have fun and enjoy yourself with friends and things will happen" might not work for others. But what I will say is that the two demographics of dudes who tend to hookup most in clubs are guys who are good looking and guys who are having the most fun.

But that's not all there is to it. Because it's rare that the good looking guys who stand in the corner doing nothing hook up. And it's also rare that the weird clowns who are spazzing around on the dancefloor hook up either, even though they may be having lots of fun. Not that there's anything wrong with doing these things, it's just not super attractive to women.

And it's almost never the meerkats who are scanning the dance floor and mechanically jumping from woman to woman. Every time I've been in a club with a group of women they all spot these guys immediately and laugh at them. Again it's not that there's anything wrong with doing this per se, but if a woman sees you doing it, your chance of them being remotely interested in you approaches near zero.

[RendHeaven]

26 minutes ago, something_else said:

I won’t lie, I do rely on my looks as a bit of a crutch which might mean the advice I give of "just have fun and enjoy yourself with friends and things will happen" might not work for others. But what I will say is that the two demographics of dudes who tend to hookup most in clubs are guys who are good looking and guys who are having the most fun.

But that's not all there is to it. Because it's rare that the good looking guys who stand in the corner doing nothing hook up. And it's also rare that the weird clowns who are spazzing around on the dancefloor hook up either, even though they may be having lots of fun. Not that there's anything wrong with doing these things, it's just not super attractive to women.

gotcha. just be good looking AND have the most fun. simple!

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, something_else said:

I mean that’s just not true. A lot of women do care about looks quite a bit.

Let a good-looking guy be an ass and see how ugly he starts looking. Let a hot female be a bitch and she looks even hotter.

What I mean is if he's good looking he'll probably get a stare or two but it's not what gets him laid or keeps her interested. A hot female will pretty much act any way and the guy will still be attracted as long as she's not over the top. Maybe after he gets her, he'll wake up a bit and lose interest, but it won't really cause him to not want to sleep with her. Her looks will be enough initially. For a guy, he usually needs a personality to go with his looks to make her want to sleep with him and that personality will be what she likes in a man overall.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, something_else said:

and guys who are having the most fun.

Not necessarily. Guys usually like this in women but women usually aren't looking for that. Of course, don't look miserable and sad but a sad looking dude can still get dates if he's not bad looking and changes his mood if they ever start talking. A woman doesn't really look for the guy having the most fun or even fun at all. Women like to be "the one" and she might think she might be "the one" to change his mood. Not talking about being sad, grumpy, miserable depressed etc, but just normal and not necessarily look like he's having a lot of fun - just neutral looking. Guys love women who are having fun because he thinks that part of the work is done and he doesn't want to go over to a grumpy looking woman. She's not approachable. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, something_else said:

And it's almost never the meerkats who are scanning the dance floor and mechanically jumping from woman to woman. Every time I've been in a club with a group of women they all spot these guys immediately and laugh at them. Again it's not that there's anything wrong with doing this per se, but if a woman sees you doing it, your chance of them being remotely interested in you approaches near zero.

So true. Biggest turn-off for a woman anywhere. She just has to even think he's like that without even seeing him in action for it to be a turn off and she can usually tell by the way he approaches.

Edited 15 hours ago by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

23 hours ago, something_else said:

I'm pretty good looking, to the point where I'll get approached first in clubs a fair bit. Yet still probably 80%+ of the time, if I approach first it's a harsh rejection. 

Well, you've made my point here.

[Schizophonia]

36 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Not necessarily. Guys usually like this in women but women usually aren't looking for that. Of course, don't look miserable and sad but a sad looking dude can still get dates if he's not bad looking and changes his mood if they ever start talking. A woman doesn't really look for the guy having the most fun or even fun at all. Women like to be "the one" and she might think she might be "the one" to change his mood. Not talking about being sad, grumpy, miserable depressed etc, but just normal and not necessarily look like he's having a lot of fun - just neutral looking. Guys love women who are having fun because he thinks that part of the work is done and he doesn't want to go over to a grumpy looking woman. She's not approachable. 

It's "funny" because if you replace "women" with "men" and vice versa in your paragraph, you're falling into what basically seems to be my belief system.
I'm also the one who cooks, but I (we) have to integrate the side that likes to be served, because the other one likes to serve ; When I say "serve," I'm talking about transferring energy in general, which includes the phenomenon you described of bringing the other person back into a good mood.

The underlying insecurity is that the other one doesn't like to serve. I actually realized that this insecurity, which I primarily associated with men, was actually shared by many women.

Probably a transgenerational affair of a sociopathic grandpa who threatened his wife or children if they weren't helpful enough, or something like that.

Edited 15 hours ago by Schizophonia