People are Animals, this Explains Everything

[SQAAD]

A lot of people get confused at to why there is rape, incest, beheadings and all these 'nice' things all throughout history.

The first usual response is : " Oh that person be evil, that's why".

This is a very crude, low-level response, which does not explain anything as why that person is evil. Even though many people seem to be okay with that kind of an explanation, lol.

The reason people are evil is because we are all animals. This us vs them distinction we have created : "Over here we are, the humans, and all the other creatures are animals" is a false distinction.

Isn't it funny that all the people who act all nice and good, usually have money sitting in the bank, a fridge full of food, good past experiences, and etc?

The reason we are animals is because we have to automatically satisfy urges and drives. And there is no escaping this Law of cause and effect (or otherwise called no-free will), no matter how awake you are.

I guess there are some very very very very rare exceptions , like Ramana Maharshi who seemed to have overcome his humaness permanently..

Bottom line is that if you were thrown into an island forever and left there alongside with a beautiful woman, you never know what you might and won't do under a lot of stress and  a lot of need, lol.

 

Edited March 19 by SQAAD

[ExploringReality]

A Human Being is a strange and fascinating concept. Nature is said to build upon itself so it's likely that animals and humans are very similar structurally but also different. 

Being Human is integrating this lower animal self with something higher within.

Depending on ones circumstances, genetics, psychology and upbringing ect... do influence wether one is being human or more of an animal. Because animals don't think about their choices and long term consequences like a human concept. 

Now this problem of transcending desires and human cravings is something that we have puzzled for a very long time, yes? Word it how you will but the drive for sex, food and comfort, can these be transcended? I don't mean not ever having sex or not eating comfortably, but being non attached, seeing long term relationship between action and consequences, and not being pulled by lower reptilian survival drives.

these drives aren't to be neglected, but to be understood and integrated 

[SQAAD]

@ExploringReality Nice. The problem is , these drives can't be really be neglected, even if you wanted to.

You will just run yourself mad, if you try to neglect them, lol.

[carterfelder]

That's why I don't use animals or consume animal products.

[Basman]

The vast majority of stalking cases target young women 18-24. That it coincides when a woman is in her reproductive prime is telling. 

[Lila9]

Calling humans animals is an insult to the animals.

[Yimpa]

3 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Calling humans animals is an insult to the animals.

My grandpa barked at me when I attempted that shit as I kid 

Edited Tuesday at 07:56 PM by Yimpa

[carterfelder]

5 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Calling humans animals is an insult to the animals.

Oh give us a break. If nonhuman animals had our capacities they’d go through all the same crap we’ve been going through in our slow evolution.

[Lila9]

18 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

Oh give us a break. If nonhuman animals had our capacities they’d go through all the same crap we’ve been going through in our slow evolution.

Perhaps, or maybe this is just what your fragile human ego wants to believe. Not all the evulsions are the same.

Edited Tuesday at 08:18 PM by Lila9

[Nilsi]

27 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Calling humans animals is an insult to the animals.

Animals don’t do art. So yeahhh… I hate your argument.

[carterfelder]

5 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Perhaps, or maybe this is just what your fragile human ego wants to believe. Not all the evulsions are the same.

I’m vegan.

[Nilsi]

2 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

I’m vegan.

[Nilsi]

Just now, Nilsi said:

Sorry, had to do it.

[carterfelder]

2 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Sorry, had to do it.

The more veganism is mentioned, the sooner humanity will evolve to finally respect animals AND themselves.

[Lila9]

1 minute ago, Nilsi said:

Animals don’t do art. So yeahhh… I hate your argument.

It doesn't matter whether humans create art or not. As a collective, humans are highly irrational. How can a creature be so intelligent and so irrational at the same time? We have everything we need to make life peaceful and sustainable for the entire Earth's population, yet we choose to ruin everything, including ourselves, out of ignorance stupidity or greed.

We have even disconnected from our animal instincts, if we were truly connected, we couldn't afford to destroy the planet we are fucking living on so heavily. Where our life instinct went to? Why humans as a collective prefer still objects and illusionary concepts like money over life, health, true holistic prosperity? No animal does that. Animals act in violence when they usually have no choice. But we do this out of ego and narcissism.

[Lila9]

12 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

I’m vegan.

I totally respect it.

[PurpleTree]

I‘m not an animal 🦭

[Nilsi]

27 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

It doesn't matter whether humans create art or not. As a collective, humans are highly irrational. How can a creature be so intelligent and so irrational at the same time? We have everything we need to make life peaceful and sustainable for the entire Earth's population, yet we choose to ruin everything, including ourselves, out of ignorance stupidity or greed.

We have even disconnected from our animal instincts, if we were truly connected, we couldn't afford to destroy the planet we are fucking living on so heavily. Where our life instinct went to? Why humans as a collective prefer still objects and illusionary concepts like money over life, health, true holistic prosperity? No animal does that. Animals act in violence when they usually have no choice. But we do this out of ego and narcissism.

It’s funny how, on the one hand, you paint humans as this useless, stupid failure - and yet, on the other hand, you assign them the godlike power to either destroy or save the entire planet.

Also, once we’ve “saved the planet” or whatever your ethical project is - what’s the point of humanity after that, if not to create art (in the broadest sense possible)?

So what I’m saying is: we already have the gold. And maybe the shit just comes with it.

Of course, I’m totally for ecological concerns and all that - but only because they sustain the possibility of novelty and creativity, in a way that preserves the cultural heritage humanity has already produced. So I guess what I’m really saying is: I might be a closet conservative.

Edited Tuesday at 09:02 PM by Nilsi

[Lila9]

2 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

It’s funny how, on the one hand, you paint humans as this useless, stupid failure - and yet, on the other hand, you assign them the godlike power to either destroy or save the entire planet.

This is exactly our tragedy and what makes us so devilish and so alien in comparison to animals.
We have the potential to do better, yet we choose the path of intentional ignorance out of our grandiosity.
Ironically, we suck because we think we are omnipotent and omniscient, and this grandiosity prevents us from actually getting closer to those ideals and from manifesting our potential.
Once we overcome our grandiosity and start to look inward, then I would say that it is not an insult to animals to call humans animals. Animals are innocent, and their ignorance is truly unintentional.

8 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Also, once we’ve “saved the planet” or whatever your ethical project is - what’s the point of humanity after that, if not to create art (in the broadest sense possible)?

So what I’m saying is: we already have the gold. And maybe the shit just comes with it.

Of course, I’m totally for ecological concerns and all that - but only because they sustain the possibility of novelty and creativity, in a way that preserves the cultural heritage humanity has already produced. So I guess what I’m really saying is: I might be a closet conservative.

Art is important, as is creativity. But humans are not there yet on a collective level. Truly creative people are not appreciated in society and are often pushed back. We have so much potential to do even better art and be more creative, but we resist it.

As an artist, I have learned that the biggest obstacle to creating is the ego. We are still collectively heavily controlled by it. Even if we save the planet, we will still need to do mental and spiritual work. Saving the planet is only the beginning.

[gambler]

1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

Perhaps, or maybe this is just what your fragile human ego wants to believe. Not all the evulsions are the same.

So evolution has not removed the primitive animal instincts in humans, but if animals were given intelligence, evolution would favor them enough to also remove their primitive behaviors too. Yea, I’m highly skeptical of that.