Ken Wilber says Trump is Stage Green?

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Breathe said:

All is well and good until your wife gets deported for having brown skin.

But I drive a Tesla! And Kamala laughs funny. Kamala mean Green lady. Not enough Red warrior energy.

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It's quite interesting how Tier 2 can be more naive and spineless than Green. It makes a lot of sense because once you buy into SD you start to rationalize toxic lower stages as part of the cycle of life and you fancy yourself a Spiral Wizard so strong criticism of any stage is a no-no. Except stage Green is always due some extra criticisim for being so annoyingly woke and not inclusive of racists, rapists, fascists, bigots, and grifters.

Edited Tuesday at 04:32 AM by Leo Gura

[Breathe]

Jesus Christ that video is annoying. Just a big intellectual circle jerk.

These guys are enlightened as fuck alright.

[Yali]

@Leo Gura

At the end of this video, Ken says Trump is stage red.

 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Yali said:

Ken says Trump is stage red

That's good.

But I wanna hear what he thinks the response to Trump should be.

[Leo Gura]

If you guys locate more clips of Integral people exposing their political positions please post here. We need more data on their actual policy views.

I am very suspicious of them but need proof before I jump to conclusions. I want to be fair to them, but I smell a stinker.

The fumes of Spiral Wizard foolishness are in the air.

Edited Tuesday at 04:57 AM by Leo Gura

[Breathe]

After watching that video I don't think we're going to see much in the way of actual political positions. They just made integral into an ideology and want to flaunt the egos they think they've transcended.

[Leo Gura]

Hazzah! I found the clip of them Spiral Wizarding JD Vance:

 

[Breathe]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

... once you buy into SD you start to rationalize toxic lower stages as part of the cycle of life and you fancy yourself a Spiral Wizard so strong criticism of any stage is a no-no.

Yeah, but that's what all the cool kids are doing these days.

 

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Hazzah! I found the clip of them Spiral Wizarding JD Vance:

 

This was two months ago. I wonder if they still think the administration is trying to "bring back family values"

I hope they're at least now like, "Oh fuck, they're trying to burn it all down." Or maybe their spiral cult sees this as part of the unfolding of perfection.

A lot of stroking of each other's nuts in this video.

Really though, they need to learn more about fascism and corruption. They don't seem to see it. They see orange vs green. They took the "war on wokeism" bait.

If I hear one of them say, "It'll be interesting to see what happens when..." one more time, I'm gonna chop off one of my own nuts.

I don't think it'll be that interesting to see people starve and die due the oligarch's fascination with destruction.

Edited Tuesday at 05:52 AM by Breathe

[Breathe]

It's been a while since I've seen anything from Wilbur. I wonder what he's saying right now. Not interested enough to watch hours of his videos, but still curious.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Breathe said:

I hope they're at least now like, "Oh fuck, they're trying to burn it all down."

Haha. Don't hold your breath.

They are more like, "Elon so smart. My Tesla stock go up. Why Green so mean? Elon just getting rid of corruption."

Edited Tuesday at 05:59 AM by Leo Gura

[Staples]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Haha. Don't hold your breath.

They are more like, "Elon so smart. My Tesla stock go up. Why Green so mean? Elon just getting rid of corruption."

No.... don't protest at the Tesla dealership...

What if I need a new battery for my Nazimobile? 

[Nemra]

 

 

 

[Daniel Balan]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's quite interesting how Tier 2 can be more naive and spineless than Green. 

No! Stop giving tier 2 status to entitled stage orange bullshitters. Stage yellow doesn't mean every wise man who speaks intelectually. That is orange not yellow. 

Stage yellow is a very rare and advanced stage which requires levels of understanding of reality beyond what the average Joe can fathom.

Basically you could count on the fingers of a single hand the people at stage yellow from todays internet. Personally I recognize only 2 people as stage yellow.

One is Leo and the other is Daniel Schmachtenberger. That's it. 

 

 

[Elliott]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's good.

But I wanna hear what he thinks the response to Trump should be.

When your adversary is punching themselves in the nuts, you don't need to respond to that. Just don't punch yourself in the nuts, and you'll win.

Edited Tuesday at 08:51 AM by Elliott

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

No! Stop giving tier 2 status to entitled stage orange bullshitters. Stage yellow doesn't mean every wise man who speaks intelectually. That is orange not yellow. 

Stage yellow is a very rare and advanced stage which requires levels of understanding of reality beyond what the average Joe can fathom.

But you shouldn't assume that Yellow will have your politics. Yellow could be politically spineless I think.

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Basically you could count on the fingers of a single hand the people at stage yellow from todays internet. Personally I recognize only 2 people as stage yellow.

One is Leo and the other is Daniel Schmachtenberger. That's it. 

There's way more than that.

Jordan Hall for sure. Ken Wilber. John Vervaeke. And many more.

I see Schamchetenberger, Wilber, and Hall as actually Turquoise.

Edited Tuesday at 09:44 AM by Leo Gura

[AION]

Such a mischaracterization of Wilber in this topic. 

Edited Tuesday at 10:18 AM by AION

[Schizophonia]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If they had Spiral Dynamics in Hitler's day they would be like: "Well, you know, Stage Blue is important and the system needs change. Hitler's Red warrior energy is good for the boys. And did you see my new Volkswagen? I just love it. So anyway... let's just all be friends."

lol

[Girzo]

@Leo Gura The metamodernism guys, Daniel Görtz and his friends, that's Yellow for sure. And quite a bit of business people Laloux writes about in "Reinventing Organizations" seems solid Yellow, for example Patagonia's founder Yvon Chouinard.

[The Renaissance Man]

20 hours ago, Nilsi said:

A relativist can be just as driven by pure ego

@Nilsi that's why a single label like a single SD stage is often very imprecise in describing individuals.

The norm should be to assess people along the main lines of development. Morality, worldview, spirituality, IQ even, values, needs, etc.

At least moral development and ego development/worldview should be separated. They always create unnecessary confusion when mixed together.

[The Renaissance Man]

19 hours ago, Nilsi said:

Con-artistry requires a subjectivity that grasps relativism.

You may be referring to "EQ", or ability to enter the other's POV. I don't know if Emotional Quotient is the correct term, but entering the other's POV doesn't equate to respecting it or having empathy.

Again, another distinction that creates confusion if not made.