What do you think about Gurus Leo?

[SamC]

What's your opinion on following a guru. Is the path of devotion to a deity/guru a valid path?

@Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

Don't you know my position on such things?

You can follow whatever path you want.

But Actualized.org is a philosophy about questioning all of reality for yourself and worshipping no one.

Contemplate why I chose those principles vs everything else.

Edited March 15 by Leo Gura

[SamC]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't know my position on such things?

You can follow whatever path you want.

But Actualized.org is a philosophy about questioning all of reality for yourself and worshipping no one.

Contemplate why I chose those principles vs everything else.

Yeah but what's the truth and what's bullshit?  You yourself have said there is a kernel of truth in everything, would you mind elaborate on the nuance? @Leo Gura

Edited March 15 by SamC

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, SamC said:

what's the truth and what's bullshit?

This requires decades of work to understand.

But you can start here:

 

[Aaron p]

Guru < Gura

[gengar]

I've come to the realization that all gurus are not for the real, capital Truth. They might know higher truths and wisdom than what you find in non-spiritual, secular society, and that is why people gravitate to them.

For me, it was more about finding meaning, and holding on to reality, having some sense of discipline, and more earthly spiritual things like good morals, meditation etc. More than all they were a way for me to not kill myself.

This is one of my favorites that i watched:
 

But like i said, it's not about finding the absolute truth IMO, all gurus come with cultural and religious biases. But when you're all alone and looking for a reason to live your solitary mind is probably not the best place to be. Note that your most devilish thoughts come when you are alone; this is why sufi orders like the one above emphasize to be in companionship and association with other sufis, to keep the devil away.

It's not so much a spirituality for the absolute truth but more a hearty, moral based spirituality, slowly cleansing your heart as you remain on their path, while still living in society (marriage and being active in society is recommended by them). But they are still entrenched in dogma so it's not really a spirituality of the mind.

 

[Carl-Richard]

15 hours ago, SamC said:

Yeah but what's the truth and what's bullshit?

This is bullshit ☺️