Why the hate against Christianity?

[aurum]

17 hours ago, puporing said:

I have been speaking about it on this forum as well as in this thread. 

Problem is your mind is too closed right now to even consider the path I took. I'm not sure if you are asking in earnest or not.

Also I am not sure what you mean by "Christian", I would say I was a Christ follower through a channeled set of teachings of his, no different than you following Leo.

I admit my skepticism. And no, I don't think I am open to your path. Your path seems excessively focused on a single human for my taste. I don't see this work as about any single person or being.

But regardless, I'd like to hear what tools you think Christianity offers if you're willing to share. I've looked through your previous responses and have not been able to find anything concrete.

My interest is because I am well acquainted with Christianity. I was raised catholic and pretty much know all the ins and outs. I also studied a Course in Miracles. So obviously you are seeing something different than me.

 

[Breakingthewall]

Christianity is interesting and that's all there is to it, as are Buddhism , sufis and Hinduism, but they're nothing more than a curiosity. When it comes to delving into yourself , you have to forget them completely. They're contamination, toxic vibrations. They mean nothing, just hindrance, like everything else. The mind must be absolutely clean, like perfect, transparent crystal, and that's just the first step.

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, puporing said:

But I am being gaslit all the time by people here, and you are saying I should be okay with sitting here being gaslit instead?

59 minutes ago, puporing said:

 

That's because you spend a lot of time saying that you are in a very high state of consciousness and small time expressing that high state of consciousness 

[puporing]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's because you spend a lot of time saying that you are in a very high state of consciousness and small time expressing that high state of consciousness 

Your state is so far off that all I can say to you is:

"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine"

Edited 2 hours ago by puporing

[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, puporing said:

Lol. Your state is so far off that all I can say to you is:

"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine"

 If you are in a high state of consciousness, just express what appears in that state, you don't need to say all time: I'm in a high state. The people who read you would see it or not, you don't need to remember it

Edited 2 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Globalcollective]

2 hours ago, puporing said:

I just don't agree with this because I don't have much bad experiences with Christians or people participating in that occasionally, where I live, besides that they are not very awake. I am not denying that problems exist but that's not because of the messenger directing them be that way. But people are clearly trying to throw out the messenger due to the bad actors. 

@puporing you might of had good experiences with Christians and that's great but I haven't sadly and I have met alot of them. As an example someone high up in the church of England in the UK was abusing children for decades and the church of England turned a blind eye and only recently got exposed when he died. 

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, yetineti said:

@Leo Gura

Yeah there’s no Christian ideology in me ha ha.

Maybe that's true, for you.

But this topic is not about you. Just because you managed to dodge the ideology says nothing about the vast majority of Christians.

We are not talking about you. We are talking an entire religion. Just because you are the most Woke person on the planet says nothing about the religion.

Even in North Korea there are people who manage to do well for themselves. The issue is North Korea, not that one person's success.

The argument being made by advanced Christians is like this: "Hey, stop talking shit about North Korea. Look. I'm North Korean and I managed to do so well for myself. Stop hating on North Korea."

This kind of reasoning would never be acceptable in any neutral and objective situation. It is only acceptable when one has a profound bias towards Christianity which requires it to be true.

Just the bias created by being Christian is already a profound corruption of Mind.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Globalcollective]

2 hours ago, puporing said:

It means I have first been a close "disciple" of Jesus through his teachings, then his equal, then literally himself as this particular being restored himself in/as me.

Again I keep saying I understand if you do not believe me right away, but also consider what other options I have except to make this claim as a result if this indeed happened to me?

What I mean by Christ is the Godhead/Kingdom of Heaven/Light of the World or highest possible Self realization you can have after all the other ones.

It is an honest claim, but I can't do nothing much about people's reactions about my claim.

@puporing what sort of special powers do you have? Could you record yourself walking on water or turning water into wine? nd post it. If your going to make heavy claims gotta back it up. 

[Salvijus]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The tools are too weak and the epistemic foundation is missing.

So we've established that the tools do exist. That's a great start. As to your comment on their potential and epistemic foundation, I would say it is coming from ignorance, but it's okay, we can work on that 👍 

Edited 1 hour ago by Salvijus

[puporing]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

excessively focused on a single human for my taste. I don't see this work as about any single person or being.

I can understand this objection. But for me spirituality was not so strictly "math brained" as it may be for you and people here. That seems to be the obvious differential in our chosen path.

I acknowledge the collaborative nature in my journey as well as what the divine wants to naturally express.

Love was always what guided me first and foremost and the love in me acknowledge the being that came before me and now as me. "Jesus Christ" is a name for a divine being, the name itself is unconventional and is a pointer to God.

I could also go around saying "son of God" but is not as direct. 

As well that I truly feel appreciative of his works and where he led me...this is really the least of which I could show that.

1 hour ago, aurum said:

what tools you think Christianity offers if you're willing to share. I've looked through your previous responses and have not been able to find anything concrete.

My interest is because I am well acquainted with Christianity. I was raised catholic and pretty much know all the ins and outs. I also studied a Course in Miracles. So obviously you are seeing something different than me.

If you have read ACIM then best I would say is to talk to me about it with your objections or if you received any kind of revelations at all as a result. It is an individualized journey. As mentioned in a previous post I have used mushrooms extensively in accompanying this text.

Edited 1 hour ago by puporing

[Salvijus]

3 hours ago, puporing said:

It means I have first been a close "disciple" of Jesus through his teachings, then his equal, then literally himself as this particular being restored himself in/as me.

Do you think multiple people could become Jesus?