Why the hate against Christianity?

[puporing]

3 hours ago, meta_male said:

doesn’t provide any satisfying answers based on reason

The exact opposite was true for me. No other teachers made as much sense to me and lacked reason and holistic observation skills of this world. 

I didn't pick up ACIM because it sounded good, but precisely because of its much higher intelligence than all the other teachers I came across.

But notice if you aren't close to this level of intelligence it will look stupid to you.

You can't appreciate it precisely because you are not developed enough to, Christian or not.

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[meta_male]

@Leo Gura You should update the guidelines now that religious debate is tolerated.

[Nemra]

9 minutes ago, puporing said:

There are not many ways you can interpret ACIM, which I understand is something that came much later, but is a much more direct teachings from Jesus and I would say much more complete due to his post life as a disembodied being "in heaven".

Prove to me that he himself wrote that.

Also, it doesn't have to be Jesus' words to be helpful. However, reading won't change your state of consciousness.

Furthermore, the majority of Christians would think that you are a Satanist if they knew that you were reading ACIM.

[puporing]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Prove to me that he himself wrote that.

Also, it doesn't have to be Jesus' words to be helpful. However, reading won't change your state of consciousness.

Furthermore, the majority of Christians would think that you are a Satanist if they knew that you were reading ACIM.

Why does it even matter who channeled it if you don't believe that he existed anyway.?

Well I've talked to you before and I have recommended other tools alongside. 

But why does that matter if other people would read it? Of course 99.99% of the population would not at this time.

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[Thought Art]

If you never heard of Christ could you realize you are God? 
 

Should we spread Christ to aliens?

[Nemra]

26 minutes ago, puporing said:

But why does that matter if other people would read it? Of course 99.99% of the population would not at this time.

Those 99.99% includes Christians.

Are you conveniently ignoring them?

26 minutes ago, puporing said:

Why does it even matter who channeled it if you don't believe that he existed anyway.?

It matters to Christians.

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[puporing]

13 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Those 99.99% includes Christians.

Are you conveniently ignoring them?

It matters to Christians.

Also, I'm talking about Christianity as a religion.

You're beating a dead horse with me, like, I'm obviously on this forum that is at best tolerant and at worst trying to drive me off. I clearly am not trying to teach your typical Christians who are not even close to recognizing me.

You said it yourself almost none of them would accept the new teachings so why would I bother? And I have tried, it's basically useless.

[Nemra]

18 minutes ago, puporing said:

You're beating a dead horse with me, like, I'm obviously on this forum that is at best tolerant and at worst trying to drive me off. I clearly am not trying to teach your typical Christians who are not even close to recognizing me.

If you think Christianity is the way you ought to be, then don't be surprised when Christians insult you.

We aren't talking about your interpretation of Christianity. That's the point that is being made here. You don't seem to get it.

18 minutes ago, puporing said:

I clearly am not trying to teach your typical Christians who are not even close to recognizing me.

You should question why those typical Christians are the majority.

But again, reading a spiritual text is really nothing, for example, if you are sick. Yes, it might be able to open your mind at best if it's direct and without BS. Although I think no one can really open people's minds like Leo does.

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[puporing]

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

the way you ought to be

your interpretation of Christianity

I do get it very much, and I am stating facts to you, that the vast vast majority of them are not close to Christ consciousness even if they are talking about aspects of it.

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

You should question why those typical Christians are the majority.

Again, it was not up to Jesus that this happened. You are still trying to equate the messenger with the effects it had.

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

But again, reading a spiritual text is really nothing, for example, if you are sick. Yes, it might be able to open your mind at best if it's direct and without BS. Although I think no one can really open people's minds like Leo does.

That's a clear bias of yours lol. I can't change your mind about it.

You discount also the fact that I don't have freedom of speech here like Leo does since he owns the forum. I am constantly persecuted here.

This is not a small thing, but you think it has no effect on a messenger like me.

Anytime I say something "too out there" I could get temp bans, warning points and ban threats, the same does not apply to Leo.

And because your mind is so biased you see nothing wrong with that picture either.

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[Yimpa]

48 minutes ago, Nemra said:

It matters

“A fool has a strong opinion about everything. Learn the power of not having opinions. Let your mind be free and open. Not everything requires your opinion. Practice noticing and dropping your opinions. Practice not taking your own opinions seriously. Thinking that your opinions are important is a kind of narcissism. Having opinions is a trap.” -Actualized.org

[Nemra]

@puporing, it's as if you're trying to purposefully misunderstand what I said.

15 minutes ago, puporing said:

I am constantly persecuted here.

At least you're not being crucified. Lol.

[Thought Art]

@puporing To be fare, coming anyone on earth and claiming to be the second coming of Christ is going to bring a lot of resistance. I don't know what you expect. Especially on Leo's forum. 

[Globalcollective]

Just look at it's followers, I have found Christians to be extremely judgemental, narrow minded, dogmatic and almost insane. The complete opposite of what it claims to teach. If it was producing masses of god realized saints we would all be following it but it doesn't. Produces the opposite. 

[yetineti]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Faith is acting like you know when in fact you don't, but you don't like that so you want something to stand on.

The emptiness of not-knowing is too unsettling for Christians. They hate emptiness. They want to FEEL Christian. The feeling is their fuel. High on Christian vibes.

@Leo Gura

That’s not what Faith is. I had to go to Church as a kid and actually see the madness.

Faith is not acting like you know. Faith is admitting you do not and trusting it will work out.

You’re missing what would otherwise be obvious to you.

There is every type of people.

You refer to the more devilish side of Christians. Yes, there’s a good portion not trying to be devils but are rational thinkers and are truly indoctrinated— and well, devilish. They could unlearn or take responsibility.

And the out right grifting bastards of course too.

Others truly and honestly believe where they do not have the power to know and have faith.

One wants to feel Christian. One is naive or devilish or grifts. The other just wants to feel safe. Lot of good people out there with faith.

If you’d ask me if I think those people could put together a two piece puzzle with a set of graphic instructions— probably not. Good hearts though.

I knew good people in Church. I just thought they were not the brightest. Also that they were harmless enough not to worry about.

That was before I understood how the mind works. Still, I do not think this will be something learnable or explainable to them.

There’s a reason shepherds exist.

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Society has listeners by design.

 

 

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[puporing]

15 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@puporing To be fare, coming anyone on earth and claiming to be the second coming of Christ is going to bring a lot of resistance. I don't know what you expect. Especially on Leo's forum. 

I expect more for this particular place as it claims to care about truth.

Not sure what you mean by "especially on Leo's forum"? 

There is nothing "fair" about it, perhaps from your limited state it seems "fair".

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[Globalcollective]

@puporing I don't think it's jesus himself so much that's the problem but the followers of Christianity and how they behave. As an example I have noticed that almost all Christians I meet are full of delusion and judgement. Sure, the actual jesus prob was a don. 

 

[yetineti]

@puporing

It is clear now you have fundamental misunderstandings.

You miss the very essence of Truth.

41 minutes ago, puporing said:

I expect more for this particular place as it claims to care about truth.

‘I expect more for this particular place as it claims to care about truth.’

Why? Because of this:

55 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@puporing To be fare, coming anyone on earth and claiming to be the second coming of Christ is going to bring a lot of resistance. I don't know what you expect. Especially on Leo's forum. 

Do not gaslight or omit this community because you cannot Edgelord your way into a prophecy— of 2000+ years mind you.

The profundity of the -absolute- Truth and claims around God, Jesus, etc. are far from anything you think you could ever say or display.

And that goes for everyone else: Leo, Myself, your God, my God, your Mom, your Mom’s mom— etc.

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Enough.

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If you are Jesus, go— go do something.

 

 

 

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[yetineti]

@Globalcollective

They weren’t engaging with you honestly.

They knew what you meant.

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Anyone who cares about the Truth knew what you meant.

Leo’s forum is a gift.

—

Your initial comment was also perfectly fair to anyone who understands the profundity of somebody like Jesus and his story.

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[puporing]

12 minutes ago, Globalcollective said:

@puporing I don't think it's jesus himself so much that's the problem but the followers of Christianity and how they behave. As an example I have noticed that almost all Christians I meet are full of delusion and judgement. Sure, the actual jesus prob was a don. 

 

I just don't agree with this because I don't have much bad experiences with Christians or people participating in that occasionally, where I live, besides that they are not very awake. I am not denying that problems exist but that's not because of the messenger directing them be that way. But people are clearly trying to throw out the messenger due to the bad actors. 

15 minutes ago, yetineti said:

It is clear now you have fundamental misunderstandings.

You miss the very essence of Truth.

I'm not misunderstanding anything, your mind is just too far away from mine.

15 minutes ago, yetineti said:

Do not gaslight

But I am being gaslit all the time by people here, and you are saying I should be okay with sitting here being gaslit instead?

16 minutes ago, yetineti said:

If you are Jesus, go— go do something.

I do stuff outside this forum, I just don't advertise or brag about it.

[Yimpa]