Why the hate against Christianity?

[Nemra]

To really understand Christianity, observe Christians. That's it.

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Willie said:

American Christians came from Europe. It took centuries of humbling for European Christians to be this way. I hope with this recent codependency between American Christianity and Trump some massive humbling can happen here.

Also many of the craziest silliest European Christians fled Europe to go to America because of persecution etc. That’s also a reason why there are so many nutty Christians in the US.

[Nilsi]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

To really understand Christianity, observe Christians. That's it.

I hate to play Plato here, but this is just vulgar reductionism. Christianity is one of the most profound inventions of humanity.

If that’s not part of your equation, I’m not interested at all.

[Nemra]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

I was born in a ultra Christian Eastern Orthodox community, and I lived almost all my life in this village.

They are truly despicable.

[PurpleTree]

6 minutes ago, Nemra said:

To really understand Christianity, observe Christians. That's it.

In my country many Chrisians are even pro lgbt and whatever.

[Aaron p]

8 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I hate to play Plato here, but this is just vulgar reductionism. Christianity is one of the most profound inventions of humanity.

If that’s not part of your equation, I’m not interested at all.

Yeah to look at all Christians as a symbols of Christianity I think could be like looking at all the extremely obese people in a gym as symbols of health and fitness. And I know that Christianity along with all religions is seen to be extraordinarily profound is extremely disjointed ways at when you get enlightened. But everything is profound up there #gang

Edited Friday at 08:10 PM by Aaron p

[Nilsi]

10 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

Yeah to look at all Christians as a symbols of Christianity I think could be like looking at all the extremely obese people in a gym as symbols of health and fitness. And I know that Christianity along with all religions is seen to be extraordinarily profound is extremely disjointed ways at when you get enlightened. But everything is profound up there #gang

It has nothing to do with being enlightened.

On a very basic human level, the core ideas of Christianity - again: love, compassion, and care for the other - are self-evidently profound.

[Breakingthewall]

Christianity has a lot of truth in it, because what it preaches—forgiveness, love for one's fellow human beings—is a key that opens the door. True spirituality is openness. Humans are closed by default, by their karma, or, if you prefer, by original sin, by their genetics, which drive them toward hatred, war, and selfishness.

The genetics of life evolves through war, leading to the human being, who must transcend it and open their minds to the infinite immensity, to the truth of what is. It's not possible to do this if there is vengeance, rage, hatred, separation, war within you. You have to surrender them, and this is the essence of Christianity. Obviously, almost no one understands it this way because you have to be at the right evolutionary point to see it.

[Nemra]

@Nilsi, what I meant is that one's interpretation of Christianity is worthless and useless if he/she doesn't include Christians in order to understand how it's manifested in real life. If you don't, then you are deluded.

I'm not talking about understanding some truth that may be in the Bible, which is also highly questionable.

14 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

In my country many Christians are even pro LGBT and whatever.

Well, I don't think LGBT people were easily accepted.

They still filter that from a religious worldview.

[Nilsi]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Nilsi, what I meant is that one's interpretation of Christianity is worthless and useless if he/she doesn't include Christians in order to understand how it's manifested in real life. If you don't, then you are deluded.

I get it. I’m a harsh realist myself, but I still think there’s something in the ideas themselves that can’t just be dismissed as delusional.

When I contemplate Christianity, I experience profound emotions - love, inspiration, humility - and that’s a fact. 

[Santiago Ram]

@Leo Gura I had a God realization experience while following the Gospels in the NA clinic. So it is possible to realize God with Christianity, just like Meister Eckhart did. 

Of course I am God, I'm not debating that, but Christ is a very good teacher for showing me that.

[Breakingthewall]

Christianity is a simple and brilliant metaphor, in fact typical of an absolute genius. It explains that human beings are cursed, expelled from the Garden of Eden for having a mind. This makes them a being without a place in the world, condemned to suffering. Within them is the animal impulse and the awareness of their own mortality, the curse of knowing and processing while being tied to the wheel of war, hatred, desire and fear, the engines of the evolution of life, the trap of the ego.

Through suffering, humans can surrender their karma, their animality, and become divine, opening their eyes and their hearts to infinity and thus closing the circle of life, being one with the absolute. 

[Santiago Ram]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Christianity, by definition, is the worship of a single human being. Literally, a personality cult.

Is that an intelligent way of understanding God? Or is it a corruption? Do you really think worshipping a single human will not have negative epistemic and spiritual consequences?

Have you not been told to not worship idols? Yet you insist on doing so? Why?

Contemplate all this seriously and honestly.

Well, sure. It does helps a bit with Humility. Of course once you experience God you drop all your notions.

Also, Grace. Despite all Masters being proyections of your own mind, some of these proyections are quite powerful and give You Grace. I met Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and felt a strong force of Love at all times for many weeks to follow.

Yes, you are Christ and Christ is you. That is beyond debate

Edited Friday at 09:26 PM by Santiago Ram

[Nemra]

33 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

When I contemplate Christianity, I experience profound emotions - love, inspiration, humility - and that’s a fact. 

And Christians wouldn't get you, which is the problem. Also, those things you listed don't have to belong to Christianity.

From my perspective, understanding the religion called Christianity requires understanding what Christians believe in and how they behave.

Reinterpreting the Bible is inevitable, and I think it could be helpful for Christians to train their open-mindedness. But reading the Bible wouldn't get you close to awakening.

Edited Friday at 09:07 PM by Nemra

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, Nemra said:

And Christians wouldn't get you, which is the problem. Also, those things you listed don't have to belong to Christianity.

From my perspective, understanding the religion called Christianity requires understanding what Christians believe in and how they behave.

Reinterpreting the Bible is inevitable, and I think it could be helpful for Christians to train their open-mindedness. But reading a Bible wouldn't get you close to awakening.

Most Christians are "normal" in my world; Remember, everything you see is projection.
Because you systematically consider Christianity as a reaction formation process.

https://www.verywellmind.com/reaction-formation-is-5190404

Edited Friday at 09:07 PM by Schizophonia

[AJBrew]

@cistanche_enjoyer This is awesome thank you. I've been trying to look for more Christian mysticism and this is perfect. 

[Nilsi]

26 minutes ago, Nemra said:

But reading the Bible wouldn't get you close to awakening.

Again, Christianity was never meant to be about awakening in the first place.

[Santiago Ram]

@Nilsi Of course it was. The Gospels are all about God-realization.

[Aaron p]

Yo this thread has turned into a circle jerk. Stop overcomplicating it 

[Nilsi]

2 minutes ago, Santiago Ram said:

@Nilsi Of course it was. The Gospels are all about God-realization.

I’m not denying that. But those texts and traditions weren’t passed down through generations to serve as a personal enlightenment manual - they were meant to create a social order that aligns, however imperfectly, with the truth of God. Of course, in a rapidly complexifying world, that notion becomes increasingly difficult to sustain.

Awakening was always for the exceedingly rare individual. Christianity has always understood that.