Why the hate against Christianity?

[Davino]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

And I could go and on. Christianity is for children. 

Thank God Islam is for grown adults

[Someone here]

6 minutes ago, Davino said:

Thank God Islam is for grown adults

Islam is still nonsense. 80% of the mythology in the quran is copy-pasted from the bible . I didn't get attracted to Islam because it made logical sense.  I'm well aware that Islam is just the final episode of Abrahamic religions .

However please pay attention..Islam says God is one. That's simple enough and digestible.  Christianity takes unnecessary twists and turns by saying god is three monads but actually one but actually three but actually one !.

Plus I just listened to quran in Arabic and the pun and poetic style just made me like it .

I don't call myself a Muslim.  Its just a religion that I find interesting. But obviously never fully making sense .that's all friend .

[The Crocodile]

Rastafarianism

[Juressic]

34 minutes ago, Davino said:

Thank God Islam is for grown adults

Omg, the Quran is indeed for adults because it is a horror book, I had read the first 30 pages and almost shitted my pants.

[Terell Kirby]

27 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Islam is still nonsense.

Any religion or worldview that doesn't lead you to the realization that you are God dreaming up set religion or worldview ... is nonsense (which is all of them).

Of course this is in the Absolute sense, there are partial truths to religion from a relative POV.

Edited Friday at 04:02 PM by Terell Kirby

[Someone here]

10 minutes ago, Juressic said:

Omg, the Quran is indeed for adults because it is a horror book, I had read the first 30 pages and almost shitted my pants.

 You are lying . I've read the entire quran. First pages talk about the story of creation and the story of Adam.

There is horror and terrorism later on in the other chapters but not the first few pages .

10 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Any religion or worldview that doesn't lead you to the realization that you are God dreaming up set religion or worldview ... is nonsense (which is all of them).

Of course this is in the Absolute sense, there are partial truths to religion from a relative POV.

I agree.  But actually all religions has esoteric sects which focus on direct god realization. 

The mainstream of any religion is made to suit simple minded people. 

[Terell Kirby]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 all religions has esoteric sects which focus on direct god realization. 

hmm examples? My impression is that even esoteric sects who claim this are still lost in fantasy and human constructions.

Religions fundamentally are a design for living well, but they don't lead you to transcending the constructed meanings behind living well-and towards God Realization. To be part of/claim a sect of any religion, even esoteric, is fundamentally antithetical to the highest Truth of reality.

Religion is mostly about identity, conformity and group think in various degrees. There are both healthy and unhealthy aspects to this, but it's not in the same lane as God proper. These two are on opposite ends of the spiritual spectrum

[Grateful Dead]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Yup . Which was long ago shattered by Darwin's evolution. Yet still some educated people still believe god molded Adam from dust and created Eve from his rib . 

"Why the hate against Christianity"?  I don't think Leo "hates " it ..its just doesn't make any sense .that's all .

The bible is supposedly a full document explaining the whole story of humans since day 1 until the day of judgment.  OK fine now go open the first chapter in the bible which is book of genesis..I swear by all the gods In the world I listen to book of genesis everyday before sleeping to get frisky and sleep . Because its pure comedy and nonsense. 

For example-: how God created day and night before creating the sun .

-How the snake spoke to Eve to nudge her to eat from the tree of knowledge.  So now it's normal that snakes speak to humans ? Do you not smell any superstition oder here ?

-How God has "rested" after finishing creating the heavens and the earth in the 7th day .

And I could go and on. Christianity is for children.

If you want to understand the true meaning of the creation story, I recommend the book: The Mysteries of Creation: The Genesis Story by Rocco A. Errico. Then you'll see that it doesn't contradict Darwin's theory of evolution. You just don't know how to read the Bible, but you're making fun of it. Isn't that childish?

[Someone here]

20 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

hmm examples? My impression is that even esoteric sects who claim this are still lost in fantasy and human constructions.

Religions fundamentally are a design for living well, but they don't lead you to transcending the constructed meanings behind living well-and towards God Realization. To be part of/claim a sect of any religion, even esoteric, is fundamentally antithetical to the highest Truth of reality.

Religion is mostly about identity, conformity and group think in various degrees. There are both healthy and unhealthy aspects to this, but it's not in the same lane as God proper. These two are on

opposite ends of the spiritual spectrum

An example would be sufism in Islam.  

No they are not lost in fantasy .these kind of teachers are spiritually awake and they know how to properly interpret holy books . Because fundamentally all religions point to the same thing .but in a metaphorical way .

Watch this video please. She explains it better than I can do .

 

14 minutes ago, Grateful Dead said:

If you want to understand the true meaning of the creation story, I recommend the book: The Mysteries of Creation: The Genesis Story by Rocco A. Errico. Then you'll see that it doesn't contradict Darwin's theory of evolution. You just don't know how to read the Bible, but you're making fun of it. Isn't that childish?

OK thanks for the recommendation. Will check it out .

what is truly childish is to try to square the circle and force the words in the bible to fit and align with science . You know very well that the Jewish story of creation .the entire story of creation in the bible contradicts science. At least that's how it appears at first glance .why didn't god make it obvious and said in plain words that humans evolved from apes ? Why does God need Rocco to explain his story better than God himself ? 

Edited Friday at 04:44 PM by Someone here

[Eskilon]

Assuming you're not awakened and the concept of a religion seems appealing to you, why would you take Christianity seriously instead of Buddhism or Hinduism? Eastern religions offer a more direct approach and methods to actually "know" god. Granted, they are not corruption free, but they are less corrupt than mainstream western religions.

Edited Friday at 05:00 PM by Eskilon

[Grateful Dead]

9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

OK thanks for the recommendation. Will check it out .

what is truly childish is to try to square the circle and force the words in the bible to fit and align with science . You know very well that the Jewish story of creation .the entire story of creation in the bible contradicts science. At least that's how it appears at first glance .why didn't god make it obvious and said in plain words that humans evolved from apes ? Why does God need Rocco to explain his story better than God himself ? 

The Bible was written by humans, and if you had lived in the Middle East 2,000 years ago, no one would have to explain it to you. And even today, thousands of years later, there are ways to understand it, and you still complain. The creation story isn't about the evolution of humans, but rather about creation from a meta-perspective; it's not to be understood literally. And the science you speak of did not even begin to exist when the Old Testament was written..

[Juressic]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 You are lying . I've read the entire quran. First pages talk about the story of creation and the story of Adam.

There is horror and terrorism later on in the other chapters but not the first few pages .

I don't know, I just downloaded the book from the internet and I know that I was terrified as I've stumble upon this verses in the very beginning, here are the quotes from second chapter (surah): 
 

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2:123
And fear a Day when no soul will suffice for another soul at all, and no compensation will be accepted from it, nor will any intercession benefit it, nor will they be aided.

2:126
And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, make this a secure city and provide its people with fruits - whoever of them believes in Allah and the Last Day." [ Allah ] said. "And whoever disbelieves - I will grant him enjoyment for a little; then I will force him to the punishment of the Fire, and wretched is the destination."

2:161
Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers - upon them will be the curse of Allah and of the angels and the people, all together,

 

Isn't it terrifying... Isn't it an emotional manipulation trap? Because the message is: It's better simply to believe and stay safe than let the possibility of burning in a fire forever while Alah is renewing your skin just to make sure it hurts as hard as it can. Why God who loves you would want to do that...

 

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"Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our signs — We will burn them in a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through, We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise." (Quran 4:56)

 

[Breakingthewall]

41 minutes ago, Juressic said:

Isn't it terrifying... Isn't it an emotional manipulation trap?

The Quran's essence is threat. It's a book designed to enslave through terror and castrate minds, For example, the Quran tells you how you should wipe your ass, with which hand and how many strokes to remove the shit.

What's paradoxical is Sufism, which is first-class mysticism, perhaps the deepest mysticism 

[Willie]

6 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Megachurches and protests against homosexuals. I’ve never seen it here from Christians. Here Christians are just kind of low profile understatement living their lives.

American Christians came from Europe. It took centuries of humbling for European Christians to be this way. I hope with this recent codependency between American Christianity and Trump some massive humbling can happen here.

[Nilsi]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Christianity, by definition, is the worship of a single human being. Literally, a personality cult.

Is that an intelligent way of understanding God? Or is it a corruption? Do you really think worshipping a single human will not have negative epistemic and spiritual consequences?

Have you not been told to not worship idols? Yet you insist on doing so? Why?

Contemplate all this seriously and honestly.

It’s not a personality cult, wtf. Jesus’ teachings are about the community, where the Holy Spirit manifests - not in blind worship of a figure, but in the collective practice of love, compassion, and mutual care. At its core, it’s about love and selflessness - noble and deeply spiritual values.

For the 99% of humanity who don’t have the time, interest, or quite frankly, the luxury to contemplate all this for themselves, Christianity is about as good as it gets when it comes to tradition. Sure, most Christians don’t live up to those ideals, but that’s not the fault of the texts - that’s just human nature. And clearly, your standards are even higher than that, so I don’t think this is a discussion about pragmatism.

Edited Friday at 06:44 PM by Nilsi

[Aaron p]

Christianity is a massive trap. I mean it's a good thing for many many many people like h addicts and stuff...or people who literally can't govern themselves without dipping into chaos or destruction. It's a very good dumb handle to hold onto if the only other option is destination-fucked, but the same person could easily use Buddhism to hold onto and would be probably better off. A lot closer. 

I was born and raised into Christianity and studied it at incredible depths as a child and young adult. Honestly I love it, but only because I'm skilled enough to know how to interpret it. It lead to a lot of problems in my life. My family didn't have any real world help, all they were taught was "sing to jesus" and you'll go to heaven...which resulted in mass chaos and pain in my family. 

The real world requires a real religion. A religion that is wayyyyyyy more intelligent, powerful and accurate. A religion that is so powerful that it isint even a religion. I am so fucking glad nonduality and mysticism and enlightenment is real, I'd be fucked otherwise lol. It's a dream come true. When I discovered this...I screamed.

 

Bonus notes:

You can check out the books of the apocrypha (catholic scriptures removed by Protestantism), the lost books of eden and Mormonism. Mormonism is interesting. They have a saying: as man is, God once was, as God is, man can become. They also are led by their intuition by something they call "the burning in the belly" or some shit. Also some of the gifts of the holy ghost are legit like prophecy, word of knowledge, word of wisdom and I think speaking in tongues is legit. But it's all subject to massive interpretational inaccuracies, so yeah.

Also if you need some Christian half mystic info check out mooji and Andrew wommack. But be warned, wommacks material is highly deluded. Take it with 100 pinches of salt.

Edited Friday at 06:47 PM by Aaron p

[Alex_R]

 

 

 

 

[Nilsi]

2 minutes ago, Alex_R said:

 

 

 

 

That’s obviously a ridiculous take, based purely on the title.

Why would any branded attempt at reaching absolute truth be superior to a non-ideological pursuit of it?

[Daniel Balan]

I was born in a ultra Christian Eastern Orthodox community, and I lived almost all my life in this village.

MAN.... The amount of stupidity, the levels of sheep herd mentality... all their horrendous customs and practices and traditions... the way they fanatically queue to kiss corpses every year on some specific date.... made me totally abhor this religion. I hate it will all my guts and I hate everyone that practices this mindless retarded cult. It made me hate all my relatives because they shoved this cult on my throat since the day I was born.  And the second I speak against this cult they threaten me with violence. 

I WIPE MY ASS with every thing Eastern Orthodox Christians hold dear the most. 

Sorry for getting to vulgar here but, after a lifetime of being bullied into following this piss poor cult I could no longer be nice in regards to it. 

[Aaron p]

Check this shit out 

 

Here Mr wommack speaks against religion repeatedly and talks about false and true humility. He exposes current religious delusional ideologies that meekness and weakness are synonymous. 

Jesus was very anti-religion. He taught the apostles how to receive insight directly from the holy ghost and said "it is better for you if I go." 

 

Which is why I constantly underline the fact that jesus (who's real name was Isho/Eshoa) wasnt a Christian! Lol, nor is God

Edited Friday at 07:15 PM by Aaron p