What are psychedelics from the metaphysical perspective?

[Leo Gura]

  On 3/15/2025 at 11:43 AM, Salvijus said:

Let me rephrase it like this. "it disconnects, dissociates, shuts down, inhibits the body in one way or the other" 

I disagree.

You ever take them?

They clearly activate your brain, not deactivate it.

It is serotonin analog which gets consumed just like serotonin, but it runs out since your body don't make it. It's like injecting jet fuel into your car engine.

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[Salvijus]

  On 3/15/2025 at 11:48 AM, Leo Gura said:

I disagree.

You ever take them?

They clearly activate your brain, not deactivate it.

It is serotonin analog which gets consumed just like serotonin, but it runs out since your body don't make it. It's like injecting jet fuel into your car engine.

During salvia trip I couldn't feel my body. It dissociates/disconnects you from it. I became a floating awareness. My mental activity remained the same. So I'm talking about shutting down the body as a catalyst for expansion of conciousness. Not shutting down the mind, tho that too may happen. You yourself said that during your highest levels of awakening it's impossible to function physically. 

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[Salvijus]

Just look at any guy tripping on the internet. They are knocked out physically lying like vegetables in coma. That's what allows them to fly in Spirit realms. 

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[The Crocodile]

  On 3/15/2025 at 9:41 AM, Leo Gura said:

All of that is Infinity.

Infinity is EVERYTHING at once.

I - N - F - I - N - I - T - Y

is a spelling that forms a sound, and only makes sense in a particular flow of time. It might not be the best sound if you're in a world, that no longer has sound.

 

[Leo Gura]

  On 3/15/2025 at 11:54 AM, Salvijus said:

During salvia trip I couldn't feel my body. It dissociates/disconnects you from it. I became a floating awareness. My mental activity remained the same. So I'm talking about shutting down the body as a catalyst for expansion of conciousness. Not shutting down the mind, tho that too may happen. You yourself said that during your highest levels of awakening it's impossible to function physically. 

That's not how it works for.

It's impossible to function not because anything is shut down but because consciousness is going crazy high, like a fever. It acts like a stimulant.

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[Salvijus]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:19 PM, Leo Gura said:

That's not how it works for.

It's impossible to function not because anything is shut down but because consciousness is going crazy high, like a fever. It acts like a stimulant.

I think it acts like NDE. Body thinks it is dying while on psychedelics. And that causes the soul to dislodge from the body giving rise to higher conciousness. 

We don't need to agree tho. 

[Nemra]

@Salvijus, did you only do salvia?

 

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[Salvijus]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:26 PM, Nemra said:

@Salvijus did you only do salvia?

 

Pretty much yea. I tried some mild other ones aswell. But it didn't take long for me to see the consequences it has on the body and I stopped there. 

[The Crocodile]

  On 3/15/2025 at 9:22 AM, CoolDreamThanks said:

Andrew Tate says all problems would be solved if women had their body count on their forehead.

I think everything in the world would be better that if you took andrew tate seriously then that person is humiliated and made fun of and laughed out of town, and if you punch andrew tate in the face and beat him up really badly you get to be president.

I think things would be better if that's how the system works.

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:02 PM, Salvijus said:

Just look at any guy tripping on the internet. They are knocked out physically lying like vegetables in coma. That's what allows them to fly in Spirit realms. 

Salvia is a different thing. It's a dissociative.

This is salvinorin A:

Another is salvinorin B methoxymethyl ether (which is stronger and only available through chemistry):

 

They're both very different to just normal LSD:

muuch simpler right

LSD is like a perceptual blurring or dissolution of filters. You can't say it forces you out of the body necessarily because the body and everything else become one and blurred together liked a kid scribbling all the colors together. It basically dissolves boundaries and then crazy stuff happens.

 

 

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[Leo Gura]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:24 PM, Salvijus said:

I think it acts like NDE. Body thinks it is dying while on psychedelics. And that causes the soul to dislodge from the body giving rise to higher conciousness. 

That's just not how it generally works.

Your experience is too limited and weird.

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[Nemra]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:28 PM, Salvijus said:

I tried some mild other ones as well.

Mushrooms?

 

[Salvijus]

 

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:30 PM, Nemra said:

Mushrooms?

Blue lotus, morning glory seeds, bobinsana. 

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[Nemra]

@Salvijus, do mushrooms or truffles.

[Salvijus]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:34 PM, Nemra said:

@Salvijus, do mushrooms or truffles.

To achieve what 

[The Crocodile]

OK I met some random drunk guy who wanted to talk about psychedelics because he saw me and thought I was tripping, and he wanted me to get him some mushrooms.

He told me how the TSA found his giant bag of morning glory seeds and let it through. "Yeah, those are for gardening."

Anyway this guy said the world would end, in like, five years. That was August 2023, so we have about three years left.

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:34 PM, Salvijus said:

To achieve what 

It's a true psychedelic.

[Salvijus]

Here's the question. Why are people puking during the trip if their substances aren't poisonous to the body in some way? 

[Salvijus]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:35 PM, The Crocodile said:

It's a true psychedelic

Liver and kidney toxin. 

[The Crocodile]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:36 PM, Salvijus said:

Liver and kidney toxin. 

Well, your favorite man trump eats fast food, and he's survived (so far).

Your other man jesus get nailed to some sticks, and it was deemed worth it.

A little bit of drug-taking could be worth it to open you up.

[Salvijus]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:38 PM, The Crocodile said:

Well, your favorite man trump eats fast food, and he's survived (so far).

Your other man jesus get nailed to some sticks, and it was deemed worth it.

A little bit of drug-taking could be worth it to open you up.

There are better ways to open up. 

[Nemra]

  On 3/15/2025 at 0:34 PM, Salvijus said:

To achieve what 

Try and then you can tell me.