What to do if getting money and sex isn't working the ethical way ?

[Majed]

Should you delve into the unethical ways ? 

[Ero]

You failed at your first attempt and now want to cut corners. That’s what separates the grifters and scammers from those who bring actual value. Choose which one you are and stick with it, accepting the consequences.

[tenfo]

I don't think the unethical way is actually any easier.

Grifting is also like a job that requires patience, consistence and some talent/charisma. So why not use it in a healthy way that creates value for humanity rather than pain?

[Leo Gura]

Success in these domains requires crazy persistence and also learning from your failures.

[gettoefl]

Getting money is always tricking trapping tormenting. Nobody wants to give up their cash. Same goes for sex. Only the ruthless win at life. Nobody admits this or writes books about it. If you win you are feted as a good guy. Ethical isn't what's right but what squeezes the juice.

Edited March 14 by gettoefl

[Twentyfirst]

Tai Lopez Notes for Chp: 34 “About life”: Suffering the 10-15 Bill Gates Dark years

"Imagination: You want something that appeals to the 5 senses. sound, sight, touch, smell, and taste. In advertising you need to work towards the 5 senses.

What you need to be different from the crowd. Alot of stimulus, out of that stimulus are messages. Ideas are imposed on you, for example clothing you wear influenced by what you saw in the media. You need to be different by investing your time and effort in what they call the dark years.

Bill gates at 12 started building computers. From 20-30 is unheard of, he locked himself in an office and never took off days to build his company. The 10 dark years

Aristotle taught Alexander the Great to learn how to live. You are not equiped to learn how to live parents aren’t taught to teach their kids to live.

Michael Jordan a basketball player, when he was in UNC no one expected him to become the most famous basketball player. 10-15 years of commitment in order to bring about his glory days.

The Amish “A fence that is built fast, falls down fast. Building a fence slow and steady makes a good fence.”

Friendships cultivated through the 10 dark years can be rekindled and used to build strong bonds.

Key to a good marriage: good business and investor partners and good marriages is the same. Low expectation. You may feel discomfort and alittle pain but they last based on the mutual understanding that everything isn’t perfect.

High life long expectations. Having a child and having to take care of him as he grows up and investing him him pays off in the end when he is able to take care of you when you’re in your senior years.

Unrestricted growth is equal to cancer. You don’t want to boom and bust. Stories about fame and losing it all shortly after.

Realistic time frame. Restrict how much tv or youtube. Look at autobiographies and read stories about them.

Social media bombards us with stories of success, never the 15 dark ages. Everyone wants to see the rewards, the harvest and gains it makes for good television. We need a reality check, everything takes work and time to succeed. Suffer and fight those 10-15 years and you will prosper."

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

The Amish “A fence that is built fast, falls down fast. Building a fence slow and steady makes a good fence.”

It is so ironic that Tai Lopez quotes the Amish but then goes around renting fake $100M mansions to impress his followers.

Tai's whole internet lifestyle brand is the opposite of steady and solid success. It's gimmicks and cons.

Edited Saturday at 02:59 AM by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is so ironic that Tai Lopez quotes the Amish but then goes around renting fake $100M mansions to impress his followers.

Tai's whole internet lifestyle brand is the opposite of steady and solid success. It's gimmicks and cons.

Him and Iman Gadzhi both confuse me. I hate the way they do marketing but sometimes they give good advice and show me parts of life that I never knew existed. People like that are so polished and photoshopped I never know what is real or not

[Nivsch]

Doing it unethicaly will harm you not any less that it will harm others. Actually it is the WAY you do the things which determines your satisfaction much more than the results.

Edited Saturday at 08:07 PM by Nivsch

[Leo Gura]

Tai Lopez bought the RadioShack brand to do a crypto grift.

That guy is something else.

[Nilsi]

On 13.3.2025 at 10:21 PM, Majed said:

Should you delve into the unethical ways ? 

If you're drawn to the lure of the unethical path, you should probably go for it - learn the hard way why it’s not a sustainable endeavor.

Nothing teaches quite like paying the price for being a greedy asshole. It definitely set me straight.

[Nilsi]

1 minute ago, Nilsi said:

If you're drawn to the lure of the unethical path, you should probably go for it - learn the hard way why it’s not a sustainable endeavor.

Nothing teaches quite like paying the price for being a greedy asshole. It definitely set me straight.

In general, I’m all for riding the wave of desire to its limit. It’s the only way to truly get it out of your system without festering in resentment over pent-up desires and unfulfilled fantasies.

That’s why Nietzsche’s path is, in the end, an ethical one. Perhaps the only truly ethical one - because it doesn’t rely on imposed restraint but on the natural unfolding of desire, experience, and consequence.

[AION]

Aren't you muslim? Go ask your parents to hook you up with some baddie.

I don't know what unethical ways you are thinking about but pimping girls is 20x more difficult than getting a gf. That is like wanting to do geometry when you don't even master algebra.

If you lack social skills your best bet is to get a baddie through your religion.

Edited Saturday at 09:52 PM by AION

[gambler]

4 minutes ago, AION said:

Aren't you muslim? Go ask your parents to hook you up with some baddie.

I don't know what unethical ways you are thinking about but pimping girls is 20x more difficult than getting a gf. That is like wanting to do geometry when you don't even master algebra.

If you lack social skills your best bet is to get a baddie through your religion.

He probably can't afford to provide for her. The Lebanese economy is in the dumps. She would have to be the breadwinner, so they got to find him a rich woman who can make up for his lack of provisioning while simultaneously being fine with that arrangement.

Edited Saturday at 09:51 PM by gambler

[AION]

4 minutes ago, gambler said:

He probably can't afford to provide for her. The Lebanese economy is in the dumps. She would have to be the breadwinner, so they got to find him a rich woman who can make up for his lack of provisioning while simultaneously being fine with that arrangement.

That doesn't sound realistic since no middle-eastern woman would accept that. Or he has to be very good looking and go for an older lady.

In difficult situations all a man can do is to embody the ideal man and hope for God's grace. Cheating your way up the social ladder might work on the short term but on the long term, it doesn't work.