Remaining deeply connected to pickup or porn,

[PenguinPablo]

10 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Why aren't people losing interest in their addictions quickly.

Romance fades and can turn to a more deep connection if that was one's intention in the first place. Not if it was just sex they were seeking. Not in all cases, but some and if that's who you are energetically. 

Your brain hasn't lost it's interest in the pursuit of truth, so your reasoning doesn't stand and that's only one example.

If one is addicted to porn. Porn isn't just one thing. A guy can go from vanilla stuff to bizarre fetishes in order to chase that 'high'

Same with drugs. They might jump onto crazier drugs. Or take a higher amount of the same drug when it stops giving the same pleasure it did initially. 

To be fair Leo has been going deeper and deeper with his pursuit of truth and chasing different facets of truth. Different and stronger flavors if you will. So even that applies here. Although his addiction is arguably more healthy. 

[gettoefl]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No!

My point is deeper.

Eventually you will get fed up with the whole person.

I'm talking about serious stuff here, not your fantasies.

I would compare it to food.

I am fed up with food. But it does what I need. I eat the same menu month to month. It ticks my boxes. It's blah but okay. I do not seek any variety or want any deviation. Other things are important. Not food.

Same with sex. It's a need that serves both but no big deal. Other things are important. Sex is just us both ticking each other's box. We will both continue like this. We are what the other needs and nothing lacks. It's a solved problem and it  frees both of us for higher pursuits.

Edited March 14 by gettoefl

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

I would compare it to food.

That's a good comparison.

Trying eating the same 1 food for 30 years. Let us know how that goes.

Edited March 14 by Leo Gura

[RendHeaven]

43 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Trying eating the same 1 food for 30 years. Let us know how that goes.

Year 4 of eating beef and rice every meal every single day.

26 more to go

[Girzo]

46 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's a good comparison.

Trying eating the same 1 food for 30 years. Let us know how that goes.

Thanks God I deviate slightly to the autistic side and that's exactly what I dig. I can eat curry everday for 30 years.

Love and relationship success awaits me!

 

[gettoefl]

50 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's a good comparison.

Trying eating the same 1 food for 30 years. Let us know how that goes.

Thanks. I am actually doing so. It's fine too. I have no more roving eye for the rare delicacies. Food is just gas to put in the tank.

Edit: Well more than 1 of course 

Edited March 14 by gettoefl

[Leo Gura]

Sounds like you guys are so boring that you could be happily married to a loaf of white bread.

My mistake.

Never assume.

Edited March 14 by Leo Gura

[Davino]

Too much union with a meal for you, right?

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura why would you get bored of the same person? What really changes if you get a new girlfriend? Isn't it like the same structure, different content?

Would you be bored of having the same cat for more than a few years?

It sounds like you are just hooked on that initial feel good hormone spike or whatever.

[Princess Arabia]

33 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Leo Gura why would you get bored of the same person? What really changes if you get a new girlfriend? Isn't it like the same structure, different content?

Would you be bored of having the same cat for more than a few years?

It sounds like you are just hooked on that initial feel good hormone spike or whatever.

This happens when you're addicted to sex. It's not the person it's about the sex. 

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, RendHeaven said:

Year 4 of eating beef and rice every meal every single day.

26 more to go

Seems too unnecessarily restrictive to me.

I'd even allow myself a beer here and there if I liked it. I have almost no restrictions anymore; it's useless most of the time.

I'm also interested in manifestation and a higher degree of consciousness in general, and maya is a projection of beliefs; an echo chamber (well, it's a dual illusion, but it's a representation that makes the phenomenon understandable and usable) between what is "impulsed" and "received."
If you nofap, you end up not being able to ejaculate without feeling sick; if you become a frugivore, you end up not being able to eat a hamburger without getting sick; if you become an athlete, you end up not being able to have a decent physique without going to the gym. You say you have "brain fog," you have "brain fog," etc.

Edited March 14 by Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's a good comparison.

Trying eating the same 1 food for 30 years. Let us know how that goes.

I've known someone for 15yrs. I've seen them eat oatmeal every morning for the 15yrs I've known them and still counting. Every morning, with the exception of when they forgot to purchase it the day before and ran out. Also toasted bread, 15yrs straight. I'm actually amazed. Structured people are like that and maybe when they're not addicted to food. 

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Sounds like you guys are so boring that you could be happily married to a loaf of white bread.

My mistake.

Never assume.

I resemble that remark Leo. I am a borne and bread pale skin and haven't had complaints to this date. Variety isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

I've known someone for 15yrs. I've seen them eat oatmeal every morning for the 15yrs I've known them and still counting. Every morning, with the exception of when they forgot to purchase it the day before and ran out. Also toasted bread, 15yrs straight. I'm actually amazed. Structured people are like that and maybe when they're not addicted to food. 

This is me. Breakfast identical every morning, not just items but quantity: oatmeal whole milk toast peanut butter greek yogurt black coffee. Lunch and dinner nearly identical but doing some switching in and out and basically on a 3-day cycle. Same number of calories every 3 days. Makes life a breeze.

[Eskilon]

Would you seek variety if you had a more evolved than you sexy alien girlfriend?

[aurum]

7 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

@aurum how do we feel about this?

We think it’s a good point.

Certainly this is a challenge for monogamy. We could find countless examples of couples whose feelings have faded for each other over the years. So you have to contend with that.

From a personality perspective, some people are going to be naturally wired for high novelty / variety. These are the people on the right tail of the normal distribution. They may have an extra hard time with monogamy compared to those in the center.

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

Would you seek variety if you had a more evolved than you sexy alien girlfriend?

Doesn't depend on her, depends on me. It's a choice, a lifestyle.

[Leo Gura]

It's actually very important to recognize that people have hugely different needs for variety and new experience in general.

Most people are not creative nor innovative because their mind is satisfied with the same old things. Such people can work in a factory and be satified. These kind of minds tend to be conservative and closed.

If I had to work in a factory, I would rather just kill myself.

Some minds are built for lifelong monogamy and others aren't.

This is not commonly understood. You have to understand who you are.

Guys who are into pickup have super high sex drives. Freakishly high. Which is not me, btw. If you guys think I have a high sex drive you don't understand what high sex drive is. If I had their kind of sex drive I could not do my work.

It's challenging for someone with a low sex drive to understand someone with a high sex drive.

Edited Friday at 11:20 PM by Leo Gura

[Davino]

9 hours ago, Something Funny said:

Would you be bored of having the same cat for more than a few years?

It sounds like you are just hooked on that initial feel good hormone spike or whatever.

That clearly wasn't his point. 

9 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

This happens when you're addicted to sex. It's not the person it's about the sex. 

Getting fed up is rarely about the sex.

[Jayson G]

47 minutes ago, Davino said:

That clearly wasn't his point. 

Getting fed up is rarely about the sex.

@Davino It seems like that's what he implied. But if that's not his point, what is? Because if he's saying you will get fed up with the same person over time, sounds pretty clear that's his point .. That humans need a degree of newness in the beings they come across.