Mathematical proof of God

[Loveeee]

Space and time are impossible because of infinite divisibility  

So this is consciousness a.k.a God 

Tons of arguments like this but society dgaf

 

[LastThursday]

Like any paradox the resolution to it is to look at it from a different angle. In this case it's a matter of realising there are two infinites at work, not one.

Essentially it says it takes an infinite number of steps to get from A to B because you can keep dividing the space between A and B forever, and so it should be impossible to get from A to B: that's one infinity. But what's missing is that for every division the space shrinks by the same ratio, and gets infinitesimally small (another infinity). So one infinity "cancels" the other infinity to produce a finite distance. This can seem super counterintuitive, but you see it all the time in maths. Calculus is based on the same idea.

I'm not sure it proves anything about God or consciousness.

[Loveeee]

@LastThursday You can't cover infinitely many steps in a finite amount of time, just like you can't count to infinity 

[Loveeee]

@LastThursday There can't even be an infinite amount of X, that's meaningless, what's infinity plus or minus one 

[LastThursday]

What can I say?

Either you believe in infinity or you don't. You can only have infinitely many steps if you believe in infinity. And as I said, you're only looking at one infinity. You CAN cover an infinite number of steps if they're infinitely small in size, that makes two infinities - which come together to make something finite.

The confusion with Zeno's paradox is that it is a pure thought experiment, not something you can concretely perform in reality. But I get where you're coming from, even some mathematicians don't believe in infinity.

It's would be interesting to try and find an actual infinity in reality.

Infinity is a super slippery concept to truly understand.

[Breakingthewall]

Space cannot be divided infinitely, it is not an abstract mathematical concept to which to add zeros after the decimal point, is something real. theoretically the minimum limit to which you can divide space is 1.6 x 10 to the power of -35. Below this, space is no longer space.

[Leo Gura]

Infinite divisibility is God.

[tuku747]

That's no grounds to say space/time doesn't exist. It means that space/time is infinitely divisible.

[tuku747]

8 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Space cannot be divided infinitely, it is not an abstract mathematical concept to which to add zeros after the decimal point, is something real. theoretically the minimum limit to which you can divide space is 1.6 x 10 to the power of -35. Below this, space is no longer space.

Of course it can. You just need to be more creative. Infinitely more creative. This whole "our understanding of space/time breaks down at the planck length" is purely programming. Go ahead. Imagine the planck length. Zoom all the way in. Then divide it up. There you go. I just concieved of a length that is 1.6x10^-40. Easy.

Edited 13 hours ago by tuku747

[tuku747]

When you deny Infinity, you deny God.

[Leo Gura]

There is no space. There is only Consciousness. Consciousness is infinitely divisible and has infinite resolution.

Scientists are stupid.

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[tuku747]

 

[Leo Gura]

@tuku747 That's very accurate.

He's wrong though about one thing: it is Good.

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[tuku747]

@Leo Gura Edward Frenkel. MATH IS GOD. The Source Code of The Human Mind.

His book Love and Math is incredible!! 

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[Breakingthewall]

12 hours ago, tuku747 said:

Of course it can. You just need to be more creative. Infinitely more creative. This whole "our understanding of space/time breaks down at the planck length" is purely programming. Go ahead. Imagine the planck length. Zoom all the way in. Then divide it up. There you go. I just concieved of a length that is 1.6x10^-40. Easy.

That's what you think, but maybe you are wrong and it's impossible to divide it. 

[tuku747]

Quote

Consciousness is infinitely divisible and has infinite resolution.

To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour

William Blake

[Nemra]

47 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's what you think, but maybe you are wrong and it's impossible to divide it. 

@Breakingthewall, it must be divisible; otherwise, unity wouldn't be possible, which is impossible.

The smallest particle doesn't exist because a thing—in this case, a particle—must be a unity of different parts.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Nemra said:

@Breakingthewall, it must be divisible; otherwise, unity wouldn't be possible, which is impossible.

The smallest particle doesn't exist because a thing—in this case, a particle—must be a unity of different parts.

Could be but physics don't say that it's impossible to divide, says that if you divide beyond that limit it's not space anymore.