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39 minutes ago, Vibes said:

And he created spiritual believes too. He believes he's some kind of evolved being or even martyr. He believes that Kobe Bryant quit Earth - even hinted that 'they', whoever tf they are, might have killed him. And he ascended to a higher realm, and it will 'probably' happen to him also. He seems to have this mentality of being persecuted by 'the matrix'.

He has a pretty good video about motivation, and he says that he believes that "he is sent by God on a mission to hard sell everyone in the room (his programs)."

Utterly delusional, but hey, this kind of delusional thinking seems to work for successful people like him, there is a lesson to be learned with it.

The problem is when the person is already an egomaniac narcissist (like Owen, Trump and Musk), this kind of mindset can be disastrous.

But, to "normal" people who have insecurities/doubts/impostor syndrome, I can see how this mindset can help.

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56 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

He still teaches/practices pickup and he even does bootcamps.

His "social game" is just a disguise to teach pickup and not get canceled. 

Show me his current pickup program …

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3 minutes ago, AION said:

Show me his current pickup program …

He often hints at his bootcamps on his current videos, he tries to not make obvious and easy to find but he hints that if you want, it is happening, ask for it.

Here is an example: in this video, on the time I shared he hints about his bootcamp.

He rebranded his "pickup BootCamp" as "social skills development". 

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@Recursoinominado actually most of his videos are about mindset and winning in life. He is not focused on getting the girl. I did Blueprint reloaded and like 1/4th was about social skills. Which program did you do? Nothing about how to get her in bed and so on which Leo actually teaches. 

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3 hours ago, Vibes said:

And he created spiritual believes too. He believes he's some kind of evolved being or even martyr. He believes that Kobe Bryant quit Earth - even hinted that 'they', whoever tf they are, might have killed him. And he ascended to a higher realm, and it will 'probably' happen to him also. He seems to have this mentality of being persecuted by 'the matrix'.

First time hearing this.

Oh God. It's worse than I thought.

He's getting lost in his own self-absorbed fantasy. The ego constructs a fantasy around itself, just like Trump and Musk.

In a sick sense he's teaching the ultimate lesson.

I was hoping he would outgrow the whole pickup thing.

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These guys are alright to learn from but to be honest how often can you really attribute any sort of meaningful progress you made to the knowledge you gained from their shared perspective? If anything I’ve found them to be more hype men than anything. Most knowledge based products especially on broad topics like business, marketing and social skills really culminates just in your own self belief and alignment with your inner brilliance, and that’s it. So really the simplicity of it all where all you had to be is 1) engaged and responsible for your life, taking committed action 2) parenting yourself through whatever hard emotions you create or resistance you create through the process 3) aligning with truth and your true worth and inner brilliance and value. Just these three is really all you need to then let things unfold in time and evolve socially or in any endeavor. The rest of his course or program or whatever else he piles on is just hot air to me. Socializing is far too contextual to map it out from my experience. I think many of you need to meet these type of guys in person, not them speaking at a seminar but just hanging out with them. 

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His HotSeat program is valuable. Any infield footage is super valuable.

Him selling courses is not the problem.

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4 hours ago, Vibes said:

And he created spiritual believes too. He believes he's some kind of evolved being or even martyr. He believes that Kobe Bryant quit Earth - even hinted that 'they', whoever tf they are, might have killed him. And he ascended to a higher realm, and it will 'probably' happen to him also. He seems to have this mentality of being persecuted by 'the matrix'.

Damn! Do you have the link?

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5 minutes ago, koops said:

Damn! Do you have the link?

Somewhere in his free videos from the past 1,5 years. I've watched many of those, so don't remember which.

 

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@Leo Gura Today, i saw a girl i liked on the street during the day, i went put my hand around her shoulders, and said : "hey, excuse me" and then she got my hands out of her shoulders and told me to get away, i said :"cool" and went away. Do you think what i did was okay, or was it too bold ?

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It's typically frowned upon to invade the personal space of people you don't know. It would only work if you were very attractive. 

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9 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura Today, i saw a girl i liked on the street during the day, i went put my hand around her shoulders, and said : "hey, excuse me" and then she got my hands out of her shoulders and told me to get away, i said :"cool" and went away. Do you think what i did was okay, or was it too bold ?

That is creepy and bad game.

The reason you are not getting results is because you aren't doing game properly. You need to find rolemodels who are actually good who you can watch and learn from.

If you keep gaming like this, you will be stuck for years with no results.

Game requires being ruthless with yourself about changing your behavior to what is required for girls to respond positively. You need to be socially calibrated. You don't just walk up behind a girl in the street and put your hands around her. You need to be aware of her safety concerns and make her feel safe.

You really need someone to coach you through the basics. At least watch infield video of how to do a proper approach.

Learning game requires serious attention to detail. Not just anything works. Most things don't work and lose you girls.

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15 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura Today, i saw a girl i liked on the street during the day, i went put my hand around her shoulders, and said : "hey, excuse me" and then she got my hands out of her shoulders and told me to get away, i said :"cool" and went away. Do you think what i did was okay, or was it too bold ?

Please don't behave like a wierdo. My advice is to never approach a girl if she didn't give you any social cues. Don't bother girls if they don't even make eye contact with you. If I were a girl and I was bothered like that on the street I'd kick that MF in the balls. And never cold approach. Only weirdos do that. U should always hot approach. Hot approach means you approach only if you see her giving you looks, or smiles, or makes it clear from her body language that she would talk to you. Approaching girls like you did strays into the #METOO teritory.

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6 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

My advice is to never approach a girl if she didn't give you any social cues.

Don't give him wrong advice.

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Just speaking more generally, you guys are going about learning to get good with girls all wrong. Unless you get serious about this you will fail and waste years. Learning game requires utmost seriousness. You must learn from experts, not just make up your own crap.

Really, you guys need to be beaten with sticks for some of your behaviors. Trained like dogs to act correctly in front of women.

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Just now, Leo Gura said:

Don't give him wrong advice.

What I gave is common sense advice. Honestly! I'm enraged whenever I see cold approach advice. To me cold approach is bothering girls whom are uninterested in talking with a stranger. I did follow your advice in 2018 and I got a black eye because of you. :D I learnt on my own skin to never bother girls whom are clearly uninterested into talking to me

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@Daniel Balan Dude approaching girls only when they give you social cues, is never approaching other than twice every decade.

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2 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

What I gave is common sense advice. Honestly! I'm enraged whenever I see cold approach advice. To me cold approach is bothering girls whom are uninterested in talking with a stranger. I did follow your advice in 2018 and I got a black eye because of you. :D I learnt on my own skin to never bother girls whom are clearly uninterested into talking to me

You learned wrong.


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@Majed That's not true. If you are well mannered and talk like a normal person many girls you interact with will be open to talk to you. And once you sense that she might want something more you ask her on a date. But if you sense that she has a closed body language you leave that girl alone. 

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@Leo Gura Dude girls are too spoiled these days, remember when my ancestors had rape game, today putting your hands around her shoulders is considered too much lmao. 

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