5meo dmt and infinity

[emil1234]

i just had my most intense 5meo experience yet.

i loaded 16 mg of synthetic 5meo vaporized, however Im a newbie and extremely bad at actually vaporzing it, so i would say i probably only consumed like 10 mg, probably less.

The experience was very intense. However, just as I was coming out of the experience, i nearly instantly forgot all of it. What i do know is that during the peak i only had an extremely vague memory of being human.

The comedown was beautiful as fuck. I saw how existence was absolutley inevitable, and anything that exists is absolute perfection. Infinite perfection. I didnt feel like the word God was suitable; while I did experience myself as the entirety of existence, it didnt feel like anyone was in control, not even God or consciousness. 

It was spontaneous intelligent perfection without any underlying mechanics. 

I dont know if i dipped my toes in the Godhead, I have a vague memory of feeling like the core of the sun. but only very vague, like a forgotten dream

this was my second real 5meo trip. 

my question is; how much does it take to reach the Absolute states, absolute infinity, penetrating the Godhead completely, etc? And when you breakthrough, how certain are you that you actually broke through?

I know from experience that with an NN dmt breakthrough, theres not even a question if you actually broke through. Sub breakthrough and breakthrough are like day and night

While this undeinably probably was the most beautiful experience of my life, I definetely sensed that much deeper states were possible. I do not believe it was an actual breakthrough, comparing to how other people describe the experience.

While I know the dose was relatively low, i also know that dose intensity varies dramatically from individual to individual. It definetely felt intense as fuck, i felt like i was about to black out in the beginning. i am however quite dissappointed that im unable to remember the peak of the trip

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:20 PM by emil1234

[Leo Gura]

Just keep tripping more and contemplating, and you will figure it out.

Plugging is better because it is less jarring and gives more time to contemplate what is happening 

Blasting yourself with 5-MeO is not ideal for sensemaking.

Edited yesterday at 06:25 PM by Leo Gura

[emil1234]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Plugging is better because it is less jarring and gives more time to contemplate what is happening 

I definetely think i will be plugging going forward. The experience felt too rushed and chaotic for me to comprehend what was happening 

[Leo Gura]

If you make a vape pen, you can slowly sip on 5-MeO without blasting yourself.

[Verg0]

It`s very common for people not to remeber the trip itself. You`re not alone with this. 

For a complete breakthrough you might go to 13-20+ mg, but with this dose it is not recommended to play with fire when there is a possibility for oyu to back-out / white-out. 

Also - all experiences seem to be valuable and one cannot force a full release experience it seems. 

Another aspect people point to is the depth of surrender as being a factor in how deep you go. Deeper surrender = deeper trip. 

 

 

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

How do you make one? Please 

[emil1234]

11 minutes ago, Verg0 said:

Another aspect people point to is the depth of surrender as being a factor in how deep you go. Deeper surrender = deeper trip. 

 

 

this is very true

[Verg0]

21 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

@Leo Gura

How do you make one? Please 

Here is a simple guide: 

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt_article2_vape_pens.shtml

[shree]

41 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If you make a vape pen, you can slowly sip on 5-MeO without blasting yourself.

Nothing beats blasting 5-MeO-DMT on an e-mesh, totally freaking out, blacking out, then waking up licking the floor thinking, "What the fuck just happened?"

[shree]

1 hour ago, emil1234 said:

i loaded 16 mg of synthetic 5meo vaporized, however Im a newbie and extremely bad at actually vaporzing it, so i would say i probably only consumed like 10 mg, probably less.

What kind of vaporizer do you use? One for e-liquid?

[emil1234]

@shree no a fucking oil burner

[shree]

20 minutes ago, emil1234 said:

@shree no a fucking oil burner

Yeah, that is crap. If plugging doesn't work, get some proper vaporizer for such serious trips.

[emil1234]

@Leo Gura is there an experiental difference in the trips vaporizing vs plugging?

52 minutes ago, shree said:

Yeah, that is crap. If plugging doesn't work, get some proper vaporizer for such serious trips.

i think ill just butt plug it

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, emil1234 said:

@Leo Gura is there an experiental difference in the trips vaporizing vs plugging?

Not really

[LambdaDelta]

Rectally administering freebase (assuming that's what you have since you're vaporizing it) may not go so well, both due to insolubility in water and potential for burning. I suggest getting a salt form, those will be restocked in the EU very soon, or at least neutralize the base with vinegar or some such. 

[OBEler]

@LambdaDelta freebase plus 2 drops of white vinegar works good. No burning sensations.

[Vynce]

11 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

Rectally administering freebase (assuming that's what you have since you're vaporizing it) may not go so well, both due to insolubility in water and potential for burning. I suggest getting a salt form, those will be restocked in the EU very soon, or at least neutralize the base with vinegar or some such. 

I'd be grateful if you sent me a post pigeon, with information as to where and when Meo-salt is restocked. Actively searching for that lately.

[LambdaDelta]

5 hours ago, Vynce said:

I'd be grateful if you sent me a post pigeon, with information as to where and when Meo-salt is restocked. Actively searching for that lately.

I can't go into full details due to the rules here, nor do I have complete information. But it should become available in the coming weeks at most or all the usual places you buy research chemicals from. It will most likely be a fumarate salt this time. It's already stocked at one NL-only vendor, they get it before anyone else. Maybe I'll make a PSA once I see it trickle down, as it's been unavailable for quite a while and may get sold out rapidly.

[Vynce]

2 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

I can't go into full details due to the rules here, nor do I have complete information. But it should become available in the coming weeks at most or all the usual places you buy research chemicals from. It will most likely be a fumarate salt this time. It's already stocked at one NL-only vendor, they get it before anyone else. Maybe I'll make a PSA once I see it trickle down, as it's been unavailable for quite a while and may get sold out rapidly.

Appreciate that. A reliable vendor is a huge quality of life upgrade.

[bobbyward]

@Leo Gura Hi Leo, are you currently doing any spiritual sadhana? If so which practices? 

Are you still doing phycadelics, if so which ones?