Don't worry, Trump supporters will be forced to come to their senses,

[Breakingthewall]

Trump seems crazy and all that, but the US was close to entering a recession, or at least had the biggest inflation in 40 years and the war in Ukraine saved that. The US is on the edge of a precipice, and if it falls it will not be pretty. Trump thinks he must take radical measures to mitigate this and if possible turn it around. BRICS is a reality, the multipolar world is a reality, the US is going to be relegated to the background. It will cease to be the leader, it is inevitable. Its industrial power is not a leader, its military power is not a leader, its dollar will cease to be a leader. This is a radical change in world politics.

The way the US works must change radically and Trump is a radical. The result of his actions? I don't know, perhaps disastrous. But the reality is that walking calmly towards the precipice is ruin, there will not always be the possibility of provoking a war to strengthen the dolar.

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[Joshe]

The idea that Trump might be healthy and what the U.S needs at this moment is ignorant. Con men bring destruction and ruin, not health and prosperity. Trump will exacerbate degradation, not halt or reverse it… OBVIOUSLY.

Ignoring Trumps’s character and long history of corruption and con artistry would be like ignoring the history of a successful manager who was convicted of rape and then hiring him to manage a chaotic orphanage for girls and saying “he’s possibly just what this place needs. He might rape more girls but let’s wait and see what happens. No one knows what’s in his head so let’s just wait and see”. That’s the fucking level of idiocy we’re talking about here. 

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[Leo Gura]

@Joshe But Kamala laughs funny!

[Consept]

14 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Trump seems crazy and all that, but the US was close to entering a recession, or at least had the biggest inflation in 40 years and the war in Ukraine saved that.

Inflation was due to the Ukraine war (energy reliance on Russia), covid and other global issues, every country was affected and it wouldnt have mattered who the president was, the US wouldve still felt the affects. What was positive is that these global were handled the best by the US out of every other western country, record breaking stock market highs, lowest inflation of all the other countries. So essentially the US was in the best place it could be. What Trump is good at is misleading his audience with effective messaging that leaves out important context. So he was able to convince the voters that the economy was terrible, it was only good with him (he inherited Obamas economy in his first term) and that he would save it and America, all of it is not true but sounds good and got him elected. 

The real threat to the US is him, Musk, project 25 etc, because his plan is to enrich himself and his friends at the expense of the everyday person. Ive noticed his supporters give him the benefit of the doubt no matter what and assume that he is just a radical and is using different tactics to shake up things, nope. Bringing in things like tariffs and creating a completely unnecessary trade war is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen a leader do and its not 3d chess. 

I thought this is interesting and relevant, its called basic law and assumes humans fall into 4 categories - 

 1. If Tom takes an action and suffers a loss while producing a gain to Dick, Tom's mark will fall in field H: Tom acted helplessly. 

2. If Tom takes an action by which he makes a gain while yielding a gain also to Dick, Tom's mark will fall in area I: Tom acted intelligently. 

3. If Tom takes an action by which he makes a gain causing Dick a loss, Tom's mark will fall in area B: Tom acted as a bandit. 

4. A stupid person is a person who caused losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.

Really you want a leader to act like 2 because you want everyone to win, its not always possible on a large scale but at least the most amount of people. For sure Trump does not act this way, not only because of America 1st but because of how he treats the other side ie people that dont support him, he doesnt care about them. His supporters want him to act as 3 the bandit, which he does for the most part if he can get it right but a lot of the time he doesnt get it right which means he actually acts like 1 when being subservient to Putin, creating a loss for public perception of him as well as trust amongst allies while giving a huge benefit to Putin. If he was getting paid or some other benefit from Putin it would make him a bandit, but he would still be creating a loss for the whole of the world bar him and Russia, which obviously is not great. Theres also the argument that a lot of his actions fall in the stupid category, as I mentioned tariffs, most likely are not going to help either side and so creates negative outcomes for everyone. The 3d chess would be if he was deliberately trying to crash the economy maybe so he and his rich friends could buy it up. 

So to summarise, hes either incredibly stupid or incredibly devious, I dont see any other possibilities. 

[Breakingthewall]

@Consept

I asked Chatgpt about inflation before the war.

Just before the war in Ukraine (which began in February 2022), inflation in the United States was already at high levels. In January 2022, the Consumer Price Index (CPI) showed an annual inflation rate of 7.5%, the highest in 40 years.

Why was inflation so high before the war?

Several factors contributed to rising inflation in the U.S. before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine:

Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic:

Supply chain disruptions made goods and raw materials more expensive.

Demand for durable goods surged due to stimulus checks and accumulated savings.

Massive economic stimulus:

In 2020 and 2021, the U.S. government injected trillions of dollars into direct aid, subsidies, and loans.

The Federal Reserve kept interest rates near zero and bought bonds to stimulate the economy, boosting spending and investment.

Labor shortages and rising wages:

Many workers quit their jobs or retired early, creating pressure to raise wages and production costs.

Rising energy prices:

By late 2021, oil and gas prices were already increasing due to economic recovery and limited OPEC+ production.

Then I asked how the war benefits US

 

1. Increased Energy Exports

Before the war, Europe relied heavily on Russian gas and oil. With sanctions on Russia, the U.S. became a key supplier of liquefied natural gas (LNG) and oil.

Benefit for the U.S.: Record exports of gas and oil to Europe, boosting revenues for American energy companies.

Example: In 2022, the U.S. became the world’s largest LNG exporter, with high prices benefiting giants like ExxonMobil and Chevron.

2. Higher Demand for Weapons and Defense

The war led many European countries to increase their military spending, benefiting the U.S. defense industry.

Benefit for the U.S.: Increased sales of weapons and defense systems.

Example: Companies like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon secured major contracts, especially for Javelin missiles and air defense systems.

3. Strengthening of the U.S. Dollar as a Safe-Haven Currency

The war created global uncertainty, prompting investors to seek safe assets like the U.S. dollar and Treasury bonds.

Benefit for the U.S.: A strong dollar helped contain inflation by making imports cheaper.

Example: In 2022, the dollar reached its highest level in 20 years, reinforcing its role as the world’s primary reserve currency.

4. Increased Foreign Investment in the U.S.

Many businesses and capital that were previously in Europe shifted to the U.S., seeking stability amid the energy and geopolitical crisis.

Benefit for the U.S.: More foreign direct investment and growth in sectors like technology and manufacturing.

5. Acceleration of Reindustrialization ("Reshoring")

The war exposed the risks of relying on certain suppliers (such as Russia and China), leading companies to bring production back to the U.S.

Benefit for the U.S.: More jobs and investment in domestic factories, particularly in strategic sectors like semiconductors and renewable energy.

 

[Consept]

@Breakingthewall yeah exactly, global issues, i was going to mention covid as well but i was just focusing on the immediate global issues. Either way this is nothing to do with inflation being directly caused by any president, it's more to do with how it's dealt with, I would argue Biden dealt with inflation really well. Trump blames inflation on the dems which is just not true 

[Breakingthewall]

@Consept

I don't think you understand how the US acts in the world. The long-term plans of the US as a nation include weakening and, if possible, causing the balkanization of Russia, putting as many obstacles as possible to technological development in China and to China in general, if possible provoking an armed conflict in Taiwan, weakening Germany, causing instability in the Middle East. It's not Trump, it's the US as a nation.

Where will this attitude lead the US? We'll see. They are no longer the strongest industrially or militarily. Printing dollars is not the long-term solution.

 

[Breakingthewall]

16 minutes ago, Consept said:

would argue Biden dealt with inflation really well.

Yes, provoking the war in Ukraine 

About the inflation, it's not the COVID, it's a tendency. US is getting down, it's inevitable. Printing tons of dollars is a solution for a while, but long term is a disaster 

About the foreign policy, weaken Russia, china, etc. For you the Americansb it has a absolute obvious explanation: they are evil. 😅

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