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@Leo Gura what are some of the channels have you subscribed to on youtube? Others can share too! :) 

thanks in advance! 

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I have a whole list of these I enjoy on my journal here:

 


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I hadn't heard of Harry Mack, but he's phenomenal.


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Alex Hormozi for business is insane.

Mike Israetel (Renaissance Periodization) for strength and hypertrophy training is another special one. Despite having a huge following, the quality of the information is at the very very top.

For more typical personal development I either read books (currently going through Leo's book list), study courses, or watch Leo's videos. Most other channels are much more surface-level (but I'm sure there are quality ones I'm missing).

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On 9/3/2025 at 10:35 PM, The Renaissance Man said:

Alex Hormozi for business is insane.

Mike Israetel (Renaissance Periodization) for strength and hypertrophy training is another special one. Despite having a huge following, the quality of the information is at the very very top.

For more typical personal development I either read books (currently going through Leo's book list), study courses, or watch Leo's videos. Most other channels are much more surface-level (but I'm sure there are quality ones I'm missing).

Thank you so much. I really appreciate! 

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On 9.3.2025 at 6:05 PM, The Renaissance Man said:

Mike Israetel (Renaissance Periodization) for strength and hypertrophy training is another special one. Despite having a huge following, the quality of the information is at the very very top.

I have a huge bone to pick with Mike Isratael. His "slow and controlled" approach to seemingly all exercises is seriously problematic and the way he arrives at that position could be an example of "epistemic scoundrelness" in my book. I think critics like Eric Bugenhagen who you could consider a meathead is much more on point about how you should generally approach lifting ("gusto", intensity, while keeping full range of motion). I think slow and controlled is best reserved for only some exercises or if you are working to fix muscle imbalances or recovering from an injury.

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@Carl-Richard The slow and controlled eccentric has some advantages though:

  • Best way to maximize time under tension (a fast eccentric means skipping all of that juicy eccentric tension, because gravity does that for you, for a not-that-big decrease in load). So this should get you more growth not less. A slow concentric is problematic because load would drop too much, but Israetel doesn't advocate for that for that reason.
  • It's A LOT SAFER. I guess this is less of a problem for beginners and intermediates, because they're "too weak to get hurt" pretty much. But when you become more advanced, and very strong, you're always threading the needle between volume and injury. Exercises that you could've half-assed before now become super dangerous, and as soon as you do one thing wrong (and very often even if you do everything right)... inflammation. Any time you can make the same gains for A LOT less risk it's a huge long-term win.

Overall though, this is a nuance. Either training like Bugenhagen or slowing down the eccentric will lead to almost identical results (if you don't get injured). Because what counts is training hard, and training a lot. It must be that way.

If you're recovering from an injury you need everything to be controlled, not just the eccentric. Avoiding rebounds, controlling everything, and keeping loads as low as possible, so staying in higher rep ranges (20+).

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1 hour ago, The Renaissance Man said:

Either training like Bugenhagen or slowing down the eccentric will lead to almost identical results (if you don't get injured)

That's the problem: they don't. When you overly control everything, you make yourself weaker. You reduce the energy output during the exercise (this is a tautology: control is about holding yourself back. We can also go into the neuroscientific details of inhibitory signalling, etc.). You get less neurotransmitter recruitment, less hormonal recruitment, you feel like a sissy. Try horsing tremendous weight and compare how you feel then vs anally controlling some pencilneck weight.

The results might be closely the same if you only care about hyperthrophy (which is also highly questionable, and in fact, I don't believe it, for the same reason I stated above). But if you care about how lifting makes you feel, not just during the session but days after (and the direct "side effects" like increased cognitive functioning), you should go for intensity as the number one goal. That is why I like sprints, because there is nothing else that makes me feel the same way. It's like cranking my veins full with nitroglycerin, like the real Limitless pill.

Looking at the studies he and his buddy Jeff Nippard have been cooking up lately, the field of lifting-based exercise science for hyperthrophy is in its infancy. I would love for them to do a study comparing experienced lifters who train while maximizing for flow and intensity vs slow eccentric. And I'm not talking about just cranking weights like some lunatic who doesn't know what he is doing. I'm talking about intentionally and specifically trying to cultivate the state of flow, the state that is as far as I know the best predictor of performance in professional athletes.

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19 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

flow, the state that is as far as I know the best predictor of performance in professional athletes.

Maybe when we're talking about skill sports: basketball, football, golf. But lifting weights it's not about flow. It's about providing dumb, heavy-ass stimulus to your muscles.

You've completely disregarded injuries. Maybe in your personal reality they're not much of a problem, but for advanced athletes they're the very thing that's stopping them from making progress. Because to make progress when you plateau you need, unsurprisingly, more training. But there's a limit to how much you can train before you get hurt. So if you can train without getting hurt, that's a competitive advantage.

19 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

That's the problem: they don't. When you overly control everything, you make yourself weaker. You reduce the energy output during the exercise

This is just false by the way. Have you seen how strong jacked people are? Even the ones who control their repetitions (which at some point they must do otherwise they get injured 3/4 of the time).

Both Mike and Jeff Nippard are EXTREMELY strong by the way. Like top 0.01%. The kind of guy that when walks in a gym he's the strongest by a long shot.

19 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

The results might be closely the same if you only care about hyperthrophy

Which is what we're talking about. We're not talking about training philosophy. In the realm of training philosophy it's all subjective. If you like to do sets of 100 half-reps of inverted foot curls then go for it, as long as you're happy.

I feel like you haven't listened to the other side of the argument with an open enough mind. If you try to make elite strength athletes or bodybuilders train like Bugenhagen 85% of them will be crippled with injuries. They might get stronger in the first 2 months, but then they get hurt and eventually get surpassed.

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