Ishanga

This Place, Forum is still Low Consciousness!

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I believe it has been like this since the beggining. You probably need to rest from the forum, or else you can too caught up in the little stories.

The fact that there are active mods modding already elevates the standars of this forum

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What you’re describing is the average human. And yes they are ridden with so called low consciousness tendencies. But there is a way to elevate that through having a healthy ego. An ego isn’t always a bad thing, it’s judge mental and neurotic tendencies that’s kind of built into its design can be improved through creating a healthier ego. Because at the end of the day almost everyone will have an ego, and then might as well have a healthy highly developed one. Because even those few people that tap into non dual state (I think the flow state can be non dual too) always return back to the ego after, so might as well improve it. A ego is always gonna have its judgments and neurotic tendencies but it can be greatly reduced. So you could develop a kind of “highly conscious” ego. That’s a bit of a paradox but in a way it’s possible. An ego that has experienced the loss of ego for example, when returned to can be more “conscious” than before.  That’s how I see it. 

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It's hard to have a high-conscious forum when it's open to the public and members aren't vetted. 

Maybe the best feature would be adding a maturity or conscious meter beside everyone's avatar or something that allows people to vote on a user's post quality. Maybe a simple "like/dislike" feature. That might make people think twice before they post some nonsense and it would eventually weed out the simpletons because they would hate looking at their stats. 

Adding new features like this isn't as easy as it sounds though. It costs money and introduces potential problems down the road with updates, databases, etc., but I'm thinking 2k should cover it.

@Leo Gura Go find a good developer on Upwork and let's get a like/dislike feature. 

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4 hours ago, Ishanga said:

No complaining, just stating a fact, big difference ppl here can do, believe, understand what they want I don't care about that aspect of their lives, High Consciousness, which in the end will end all the Stupidity of this world is the only solution, so far we seem to be failing miserably!!

The problem with the forum is that people who are really interested in spirituality, of which there have been many, like waterriver, moksha, axiom, and many others, abandon it, because almost no one is really interested in spirituality, in meditating seriously, doing psychedelics with serious intention, studying spirituality and sharing doubts, whether it is Buddhism, Bahava Gita or whatever, people will laugh at them and tell them that you are a god dreaming of your parents. It's quite childish and you have to be patient, but the problem is that there are no more serious and well-moderated forums on the subject, so you have to try to raise its level. 

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Certain topics being divisive doesn't mean the forum as a whole is low-conscious. It's quiet peaceful and tolerant compared to many other forums in fact. You don't get banned for having the "wrong opinion" here unless you go way overboard. The diversity of worldviews and people is a testament to that.

Just ignore annoying users and avoid getting bogged down in empty arguments over semantics, etc. If you are constantly inundated with low quality brainrot than that is partially on you. You are going to have to make up your own mind of who is worth listening to. The quality of discussions to be had begin with you.

1 hour ago, Joshe said:

It's hard to have a high-conscious forum when it's open to the public and members aren't vetted. 

Maybe the best feature would be adding a maturity or conscious meter beside everyone's avatar or something that allows people to vote on a user's post quality. Maybe a simple "like/dislike" feature. That might make people think twice before they post some nonsense and it would eventually weed out the simpletons because they would hate looking at their stats. 

Adding new features like this isn't as easy as it sounds though. It costs money and introduces potential problems down the road with updates, databases, etc., but I'm thinking 2k should cover it.

@Leo Gura Go find a good developer on Upwork and let's get a like/dislike feature. 

Any appraisal system will instantly be abused as a agree/disagree button and the forum will turn into an echo-chamber. Less is more for the purpose of having a good faith discussion.

 

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3 minutes ago, Basman said:

Certain topics being divisive doesn't mean the forum as a whole is low-conscious. It's quiet peaceful and tolerant compared to many other forums in fact. You don't get banned for having the "wrong opinion" here unless you go way overboard. The diversity of worldviews and people is a testament to that.

Just ignore annoying users and avoid getting bogged down in empty arguments over semantics, etc. If you are constantly inundated with low quality brainrot than that is partially on you. You are going to have to make up your own mind of who is worth listening to. The quality of discussions to be had begin with you.

Any appraisal system will instantly be abused as a agree/disagree button and the forum will turn into an echo-chamber. Less is more for the purpose of having a good faith discussion.

 

Before it shut down I hung out on Raymond Peat's forum where most people were pro-Trump.

The admin was autistic and ruthless, I clearly prefer Leo Gura, but there was literally no insult and the intellectual level was generally higher than here, with all the love in the world.


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2 hours ago, Joshe said:

Go find a good developer on Upwork and let's get a like/dislike feature. 

 


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That high and low consciousness/perspective bull need to stop man. Things are not that binary. Guys please get into Wilber and get yourself educated. Yea, they are a lot of fools out there. But it is easy to see the chip in your brothers eye. Although I see a lot of stupidity I will never go out of my way to attack somebody on it. Everybody is doing their best and is their own process.


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51 minutes ago, AION said:

That high and low consciousness/perspective bull need to stop man. Things are not that binary. Guys please get into Wilber and get yourself educated. Yea, they are a lot of fools out there. But it is easy to see the chip in your brothers eye. Although I see a lot of stupidity I will never go out of my way to attack somebody on it. Everybody is doing their best and is their own process.

The Foundation of this forum, at least as I interpret it, is Spirituality or Actualization, its the same thing, so a higher standard should be applied.. This thread is just an alert of sorts, how ppl interpret it and react to it is up to them, but the reality is the more identified ppl are about topics the less Actualized they are, of course all of us are guilty of this, but again we should be held to a higher standard since the whole goal of Actualization is too be less identified and more Actualized!


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On 3/2/2025 at 11:38 PM, Ishanga said:

I don't post here often anymore, this place is still very Low Consciousness, this is proven by how identified ppl here are about certain things... 

It can be about Politics, Drugs, Money, Spiritual Matters, etc, ppl here are picking sides very often, all Sides are just Potentials, all of them are right and wrong, good and bad, but ppl here are picking sides, saying this is absolutely right, that is absolutely wrong, that is where the Unconsciousness is...

For Me this is Sad, not Emotionally Sad, I don't feel Emotionally Sad because You believe in something, lol, its Sad, because You are Me, I am You, we just have different Bodies and Mind and Karma or Set Up Conditionings, its like my finger is hurting because it is cut, its that sort of pain to see others so Unconscious, which causes suffering in the end... 

I see this every day in the World, Unconsciousness everywhere, it affects Me only a few seconds here and there as it should, no effect means I'm no longer Human, which is just a tiny aspect of what Life Is.

Identify with Life, Life is just Potential and Possibility being Realized, Embodied and Experienced, that is what is going on here, only Life, when You identify with Life, You can participate Fully with everything going on, totally involved but Untouched by It, Your at Peace/Bliss within, but You've experienced everything there is too Experience while here and Embodied, if You deny Experience then You deny Life and everything available in it, and You deny Absolute which is just an Potential/Possibility producing Machine...

 

@Ishanga You call this place low consciousness while using the same tactics that create it, subtle superiority, emotional manipulation, and dismissiveness disguised as wisdom. You position yourself as having ‘moved beyond’ while implying everyone else is stuck, which is just another form of ego attachment. If you were truly detached, you wouldn’t need to announce it, if you truly saw everyone as equal, you wouldn’t frame yourself as the awakened one watching others struggle. You claim sadness for others but detach from it when convenient, this isn’t insight, it’s just a strategic way to appear above criticism.

Yes, things could be better. But you’re not leading by example. Real higher consciousness doesn’t need to posture, dismiss, or manipulate. It engages, understands, and elevates. If that’s what you actually want, act like it.

What you’re doing isn’t ‘low consciousness’ in the usual sense, it’s advanced social manipulation masked as spiritual detachment.

Don't mind if I point out to others as an educational lesson what you're employing:

  • Framing Control: Defining disagreement as ‘identification’ so any challenge reinforces your superiority
  • Superiority Signaling: Claiming you’ve ‘moved beyond’ while subtly implying others are stuck
  • Covert Dismissiveness: Calling the forum ‘low consciousness’ to devalue opposing perspectives without engaging them
  • Non-Falsifiable Positioning: Making yourself immune to critique by claiming both detachment and selective emotional concern
  • Strategic Self-Contradiction: Claiming no emotional investment while making an emotionally loaded post

This isn’t unconsciousness, it's tactical. But if true wisdom is your goal, you don’t need these games. Just be real.

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On 3/3/2025 at 1:19 PM, Joshe said:

let's get a like/dislike feature. 

Early on there was a like/dislike feature but it was often used as a weapon between Low-C members who didn't get along.

  

 

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Maybe we should remove the green color next to the moderator name, it might give people the false sense the moderators have better responses.


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How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being?

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@Ishanga well I suppose you can choose to become a leader on the forum, and look to provide higher consciousness perspectives.

 


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The real joke isn’t that this forum has ‘low consciousness’, it’s that some people think slapping ‘Moderator’ next to their name upgraded their intellect. Watching them posture as ‘enforcers of truth’ while wasting everyone’s time with insecure jabs is like watching a hall monitor act like they run the school.

Dubious status, irrelevant authority, and an ego three sizes too big. This isn’t moderation, it’s cosplay. The real thinkers here are the ones actually engaging, not playing forum police in a hierarchy that means nothing outside their own heads.

Even @integralquestioned whether the 'Moderator' tag should be removed to stop people from mistaking it for competence, kind of says it all, doesn’t it? If ‘low consciousness’ is the issue, maybe start with the ones acting like Leo’s disciples while lacking even a fraction of his insight. That’s the real tragedy.

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