WATCH: Trump argues with Zelenskyy in Oval Office

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1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

Putin seems like a one man party. 
 

While in China it’s the CCP.

That's a good point. I think Xi is more at risk of losing his position if he is too corrupt.. than Putin, is the point I guess.

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Also China did suffer from the invasion and horrors from WW2 so in my view it is less likely to want to be that invader themselves. That's just my view.

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[Nemra]

36 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I'm saying that what he's doing is just business, same than any other president, but more rough, without diplomacy, like a cheap movie cowboy, but the reality in the end is always the same, business. everything for me, nothing for you, or the least for you

That's a huge thing.

How can you elect someone who cares about you and others less than the previous one?

You like to bring up Biden's mistakes but fail to bring up Trump's as if he has done nothing and it doesn't affect anything.

[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, puporing said:

No you are the one who has to "learn", not me, seriously. You keep thinking you are more aware of the situation, you are not. 

There is a major epistemic mistake you are making and like I said before it is very hard to come around from it.

Ok, then don't go deep, don't try to know the reality of this conflict and keep your opinion based in generalisation and intuition. Almost everyone do that, they follow their intuition without knowing the facts. Then they are very easy to manipulate. That's how the world works: advertisings. 

This documentary is very interesting:

 

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5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Ok, then don't go deep, don't try to know the reality of this conflict and keep your opinion based in generalisation and intuition. Almost everyone do that, they follow their intuition without knowing the facts. Then they are very easy to manipulate. That's how the world works. Publicity. 

This documentary is very interesting:

 

You are obviously the one who is falling exactly into "your intuition" as opposed to facts, and when anyone tries to tell you you just conveniently keep reiterating your points as though you have the upper hand.

Your arguments have been so flawed from the beginning, that I am no longer interested in engaging with you.

You clearly have zero opening to new information while accusing others of this.

I am warning you that you have basically lost your mind at this point.

Maybe you are a Putin clone, who is deeply self deceived and nobody can change his mind except to get locked up in jail. That seems to be the trajectory you are on .

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[Applegarden8]

8 minutes ago, puporing said:

Also China did suffer from the invasion and horrors from WW2 so in my view it is less likely to want to be that invader themselves. That's just my view.

Interesting point. Maybe even true. China still propagate getting Taiwan pretty heavily.

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Nemra said:

That's a huge thing.

How can you elect someone who cares about you and others less than the previous one?

You like to bring up Biden's mistakes but fail to bring up Trump's as if he has done nothing and it doesn't affect anything.

About this war, Biden is more relevant, because he was the president when this war started, and he was very involved in ucraine when he was vice president with obama

The war really started in 2014, but the invasion happened when Biden said that ucraine was going to join NATO, in a moment that was in war against the Russian population in dombass. When Biden did that, he knew the consequences

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4 minutes ago, Applegarden8 said:

Interesting point. Maybe even true. China still propagate getting Taiwan pretty heavily.

Yeah I understand that. It's unfortuante and a kind of self-deception you could say. I hope they don't act on it militarily however.

[Nemra]

@Breakingthewall, Trump isn't the person you should rely on to solve issues. He literally scams others.

Also, weren't you following the news when he was picking his loyalists?

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@Nemra He lost his mind, I think he's as self deceived as Vladimir Putin.

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[PurpleTree]

8 minutes ago, puporing said:

Yeah I understand that. It's unfortuante and a kind of self-deception you could say. I hope they don't act on it militarily however.

I mean they destroyed freedom and democracy in Hong Kong which is quite sad. Hong Kong used to be really cool 😎 

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1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

I mean they destroyed freedom and democracy in Hong Kong which is quite sad. Hong Kong used to be really cool 😎 

Yes I know.. very sad. But I think there's some tolerance about their identity and evolution, or maybe I am wrong.. 

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[Breakingthewall]

42 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Breakingthewall, Trump isn't the person you should rely on to solve issues. He literally scams others.

Also, weren't you following the news when he was picking his loyalists?

Maybe, but the topic is about the war in Ukraine, how if begun, etc, not about the personality of trump. I don't know yet how trump is. Seems quite crazy and impulsive, and of course corrupted, but it's a must in politics. Let's see what he does, not what he seems. For now it's soon to make an opinion. 

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22 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe, but the topic is about the war in Ukraine, how if begun, etc, not about the personality of trump. I don't know yet how trump is. Seems quite crazy and impulsive, but let's see what he does, not what he seems. For now it's early to make an opinion. 

You are clearly trying to help Putin. Are you from the KGB?

I'm sorry but I have the duty to warn people on this forum about what you are up to.

You are a danger to mankind.

And I will not let up with my efforts because you are obviously a devil for Putin, trying to mix in with the rest. That is a "no-go" zone for me.

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[Raze]

1 hour ago, puporing said:

Also China did suffer from the invasion and horrors from WW2 so in my view it is less likely to want to be that invader themselves. That's just my view.

Yet Russia was invaded as well 

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, puporing said:

You are clearly trying to help Putin. Are you from the KGB?

I'm sorry but I have the duty to warn people on this forum about what you are up to.

You are a danger to mankind.

And I will not let up with my efforts because you are obviously a devil for Putin. That is a "no-go" zone for me.

I'm talking about the facts in the war, anyone who read what I wrote could see that I'm only concerned by the facts. Do you remember that yesterday I told you why Crimea was ucranian and why is populated by Russians? Tell me, it's an interesting fact for you? Do you remember it? The facts are the key for understanding  

Some clues: krushev, Stalin, ottoman empire. Then? 

Other facts very important: why dombass is populated by Russians? What is holodomor? Who's Stephan bandera? What was Treblinka?

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[PurpleTree]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

Yet Russia was invaded as well 

Almost everybody in Europe was invaded and many in Asia. 

[Nemra]

@Breakingthewall, FYI, he was a president once. You have had time to observe him.

You just can't ignore what he is. What he is has been formed by his past actions. He's not the type of person that changes for the better.

Don't ignore his past connections to Russia, which you can easily find out.

Also, he gave a (fake) promise to solve the Israel-Palestine issue, and yet he doesn't even recognize what Israel is doing.

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[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, puporing said:

@Breakingthewall is a KGB Officer trying to spread Putin's propaganda.

I don't think so.

He just doesn't like Biden's decisions and actions while ignoring Trump as if Trump was born yesterday.

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3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I don't think so.

He just doesn't like Biden's decisions and actions while ignoring Trump as if Trump was born yesterday.

Well , I have access to some things that almost nobody here has access to. So excuse me for being a bit "out there".

@Breakingthewall does not care about facts just claiming he does to try to brainwash you.

The Devil is always more clever than the masses. Remember this.

You guys are actively being brainwashed by Vladimir Putin and his puppets on this forum.

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