WATCH: Trump argues with Zelenskyy in Oval Office

[Joshe]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But you're only saying he's his puppet because he doesn't want to keep helping Zelensky.   

There's a good amount of compelling circumstantial evidence to support the theory. I'm not saying he's his puppet—I'm just saying it's possible, and I think it's an epistemic mistake to lean too far away from that possibility and an even greater mistake to dispense with it entirely, as many seem to have done.

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[puporing]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No i respect that.  Just cool it with the I'm more conscious than you stuff.  

I don't really go out of my way with that unless it's necessary.

There's a kind of magic to how these things work.

It's hard to get some people to really pay attention otherwise. I mean even then, people can still easily dismiss me, so.

Sorry that it can be "annoying". Again, I don't really have an option sometimes.

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[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, puporing said:

Idon't really go out of my way with that unless it's necessary.

 

It should never be necessary.   If it's necessary you're getting too emotional.  Kinda of like resorting to calling names.

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[puporing]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

It should never be necessary.

Seems like a double standard you have. Leo also had to do this before if you still remember.

I will get nowhere if I never told a single person about more awakening.

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, puporing said:

Seems like a double standard you have. Leo also had to do this before if you still remember.

I will get nowhere if I never told a single person about more awakening.

This is the political forum not the spiritual forum...and i hope you dont base your existence on awakening people.  You're in for a long hard road in that case.  And if it's hard to get certain people to pay attention to you then maybe you have to really look within to see why you are so worried about what people think or whether they acknowledge you or not.  I do.  I think you're great.  But it doesn't matter what I think.

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[puporing]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

This is the political forum not the spiritual forum...and i hope you dont base your existence on awakening people.  You're in for a long hard road in that case.  And if it's hard to get certain people to pay attention to you then maybe you have to really look within to see why you are so worried about what people think or whether they acknowledge you or not.  I do.  I think you're great.  But it doesn't matter what I think.

Well everything is related if you haven't noticed yet.

I am not basing on anything other than responding to "the moment".

I'm not "so worried" about it. You can take what I say or leave it. Not sure where this is going. 

[Inliytened1]

34 minutes ago, Joshe said:

There's a good amount of compelling circumstantial evidence to support the theory. I'm not saying he's his puppet—I'm just saying it's possible, and I think it's an epistemic mistake to lean too far away from that possibility and an even greater mistake to dispense with it entirely, as many seem to have done.

It's possible. But the dude is cutthroat in business.  Maybe he's out of his realm when it comes to politics.  I thought that in the beginning but he's a snake as well.  He's too much of a narcissist to be anyone's puppet.  Push comes to shove he will have to exhibit dominance.   That's the whole issue here.  

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[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

He's too much of a narcissist to be anyone's puppet.  Push comes to shove he will have to exhibit dominance.   That's the whole issue here.  

Yeah, that's a good point. You could build a good case for both. There's a lot of compelling evidence that points in the opposite direction if you want to look into it. It's all circumstantial from what I've seen, but when you add it all up, it's not easy to dismiss. 

Also, "puppet" doesn't necessarily mean 100% controlled. It could just mean 25% or 50% controlled or it could mean "in cahoots" or colluding with. So "puppet" isn't the best term. I was just using Lyubov's term. Collusion for power/material gain would be more likely but it's also possible Putin has some dirt or leverage on Trump, which could explain a narcissist taking orders from someone else.

Russia is big into spying. Think of the weak security around Trump's properties, especially from the 70s to 2000s. Maybe they recorded Trump fucking a kid and are blackmailing him with it. That might get a narcissist to do your bidding, especially if you promise him unfathomable riches.

Remember, when Trump was asked by reporters if he'd release the JFK information, he said absolutely. Then was asked if he'd release the information of some other big thing, and he said absolutely. Right after those two questions, he was asked if he'd release the Epstein files and he said "that I'm not sure about, I probably would". Also, Epstein passed away from "suicide" when the cameras just so happened to be off. It's not outside the realm of possibility that the Russians have dirt on Trump. Again, I'm not saying they do, I'm just saying they might. 

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[Inliytened1]

31 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Yeah, that's a good point. You could build a good case for both. There's a lot of compelling evidence that points in the opposite direction if you want to look into it. It's all circumstantial from what I've seen, but when you add it all up, it's not easy to dismiss. 

Also, "puppet" doesn't necessarily mean 100% controlled. It could just mean 25% or 50% controlled or it could mean "in cahoots" or colluding with. So "puppet" isn't the best term. I was just using Lyubov's term. Collusion for power/material gain would be more likely but it's also possible Putin has some dirt or leverage on Trump, which could explain a narcissist taking orders from someone else.

Russia is big into spying. Think of the weak security around Trump's properties, especially from the 70s to 2000s. Maybe they recorded Trump fucking a kid and are blackmailing him with it. That might get a narcissist to do your bidding, especially if you promise him unfathomable riches.

Remember, when Trump was asked by reporters if he'd release the JFK information, he said absolutely. Then was asked if he'd release the information of some other big thing, and he said absolutely. Right after those two questions, he was asked if he'd release the Epstein files and he said "that I'm not sure about, I probably would". Also, Epstein passed away from "suicide" when the cameras just so happened to be off. It's not outside the realm of possibility that the Russians have dirt on Trump. Again, I'm not saying they do, I'm just saying they might. 

LOL.  Where are you seeing that Trump is taking orders from Putin?  Is that more propganda from the left?

 

[cistanche_enjoyer]

5 hours ago, puporing said:

But this is just what I have access to from a higher state of consciousness than the rest of you guys.

 

Man you have an enormous spiritual ego and you are very deluded. I recommend you do some self-inquiry