The media is utter trash

[Nemra]

There are comedians out there that are very entertaining and funny.

[PurpleTree]

7 minutes ago, Average Actualizer said:

Then that's a lack of openmindedness, but at least you watched his streams with Destiny so that's something.

Are you Nick Fuentes? Why are you promoting the kid.

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Are you Nick Fuentes? Why are you promoting the kid.

Who do you listen to?

[Nemra]

@SwiftQuill, did I say the left is unbiased?

I just stated that the what you said didn't make the right unbiased.

22 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

How many times do I have to point this out in this forum?

Why do you think that I should have read all of your posts?

It's not worth getting emotional about this.

Edited February 26 by Nemra

[Average Actualizer]

16 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Are you Nick Fuentes? Why are you promoting the kid.

I've explained my reasoning, the topic is "media is trash" and i gave an example of someone that i believe isn't a trash news source that spews propaganda, and i did it as a response to a guy asking for any right wing sources that aren't bad.

I also said that you don't have to agree with his opinions on the news but as a source of news he is valuable because he is really informative and grounded, he is not putting on a gimmick or false image.

And none of this can be understood if one hasn't watched his show for a week, seeing him through viral clips isn't enough because he is only shown in a bad light and they don't show the informative side of him. Imagine if you only saw one of those YT commentary hitpieces on Leo and because of that never watched his valuable content.

I mean Leo has many times said that rape and pedophilia is love and if one sees this without actually watching most of Leo's videos they will misunderstand the message and be put off and miss on a goldmine.

Edited February 26 by Average Actualizer

[Elliott]

19 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

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Third, I pointed out earlier that the "but the right wing is worse!" card is a mere deflection from criticism addressed to the Left. That does nothing to your case. The right wing might be a thousand times more dishonest and biased than the left. That doesn't in any way free the left from criticism. How many times do I have to point this out in this forum?

I don't see how anyone was trying to downplay legitimate criticism of leftwing sources. MSNBC is a lot of propaganda, vaush and hassan are completely propaganda, kullinski and meidas are heavily biased and spread propaganda. Pakman is a sagacious God 😐

Edited February 26 by Elliott

[SwiftQuill]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

@SwiftQuill, did I say the left is unbiased?

I just stated that the what you said didn't make the right unbiased.

Why do you think that I should have read all of your posts?

Don't get emotional.

I get frustrated when people misconstrue me even after I have corrected their errors and made myself clear.

I did not say or imply that the right is unbiased.

It's fine if you watch content creators who refuse to address immigration issues, crime, misapplication of LGBTQ rights, misapplication of dei/affirmative action quotas, anti hate speech laws, cancel culture, hate men, hate white people, hate western society, hate their own ancestors, hate the middle class, and hate anyone who is to the right of Stalin in the political spectrum. It's fine if you choose to only watch content with headlines like "white cop kills black man" and "neonazis protest against mass immigration".

There's no objective measure to qualify bias. But to me these 2 individuals - Destiny and Pakman are extremely biased. Their pride and their careers depend on them being biased.

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Who do you listen to?

I listen more subject not person based.

So subjects like Ukraine and so on.

But then obviously the people or channels i watched show up in my feed.

Some mainstream media like France24 english, some other media from Europe some BBC or channel4 or times radio.

And some people like Kulinsky, Meidas touch, Bulwark or whatever. 
 

 

[Nemra]

3 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

It's fine if you watch content creators who refuse to address immigration issues, crime, misapplication of LGBTQ rights, misapplication of dei/affirmative action quotas, anti hate speech laws, cancel culture, hate men, hate white people, hate western society, hate their own ancestors, hate the middle class, and hate anyone who is to the right of Stalin in the political spectrum. It's fine if you choose to only watch content with headlines like "white cop kills black man" and "neonazis protest against mass immigration".

Lot of assumptions about me.

I am aware that there are left wing people that believe and do some of the things you mentioned, but I have to disagree that those represent the left entirely.

I bearaly watch political pundits nowadays.

21 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

There's no objective measure to qualify bias. But to me these 2 individuals - Destiny and Pakman are extremely biased. Their pride and their careers depend on them being biased.

You cannot say that there isn't a way to measure bias and then say they are extremely biased.

Can you mention pundits that are unbiased or less biased than the ones you mentioned?

[SwiftQuill]

46 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Lot of assumptions about me.

I am aware that there are left wing people that believe and do some of the things you mentioned, but I have to disagree that those represent the left entirely.

I bearaly watch political pundits nowadays.

You cannot say that there isn't a way to measure bias and then say they are extremely biased.

Can you mention pundits that are unbiased or less biased than the ones you mentioned?

When I say " it's fine if you only watch x" I don't mean you in particular. I mean whoever.

These aren't assumptions. This is a perfect description of the likes of Pakman and Destiny and their woke ilk.

I don't know what you mean by political pundits. In terms of individuals, I watch a youtuber called Gonçalo Sousa. He reports and commentates Portuguese news. He identifies as right wing but in my opinion he's pretty unbiased for the most part.

99% of YouTube politics channels are complete garbage. Either right wing grifters or left wing insufferable wokies. I don't know any channel besides Gonçalo Sousa that is even remotely watchable.

As for news media, I watch Portuguese news channels. They are a bit biased to the left but overall ok.

And lastly, saying that there is subjectivity when determining if someone is being biased, and calling someone biased, that's not a contradiction. I think it's a mix of factors to analyse, and it's hard to be 100% sure and scientific when assessing bias. This is not an oxymoron nor self refuting.

Edited February 26 by SwiftQuill

[EternalForest]

7 hours ago, Elliott said:

If there was a right wing news source that didn't outright lie all the time, I'd watch it, haven't found a one. There are plenty of left wing news sources that outright lie too, never as bad as right wing, but there are many left wing sources that don't lie.

Why not get it directly from the horse's mouth?

https://www.youtube.com/@WhiteHouse/videos

I watch The White House's new uploads and live streams to get the full, unedited messages that the media will clip to fit their own individual narratives

Edited February 26 by EternalForest

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, EternalForest said:

Why not get it directly from the horse's mouth?

https://www.youtube.com/@WhiteHouse/videos

I watch The White House's new uploads and live streams to get the full, unedited messages that the media will clip to fit their own individual narratives

https://bsky.app/profile/davidcorn.bsky.social/post/3lj3wdxotms2g

"Trump just said "millions" have been killed by fentanyl. Not so. About 70K annually in past few years. Tragic number, indeed. But he's way off. Also claims US gave more than 3X in aid to Ukraine than Europe. Untrue. Says Soc. Sec. checks are going to people who are 200 y.o. Nope. It's a lie-a-thon."

 

Did you mean horse's ass?

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, EternalForest said:

Why not get it directly from the horse's mouth?

https://www.youtube.com/@WhiteHouse/videos

I watch The White House's new uploads and live streams to get the full, unedited messages that the media will clip to fit their own individual narratives

I mean that’s still mostly lies though 

 

Trump: Zelensky is a dictator with 4% approval ratings. 

Putin not really a dictator.

[puporing]

16 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I mean that’s still mostly lies though 

 

Trump: Zelensky is a dictator with 4% approval ratings. 

Putin not really a dictator.

That's just how the devils operate, black is white, and white is black. 

[PurpleTree]

11 minutes ago, puporing said:

That's just how the devils operate, black is white, and white is black. 

He "should" operate smarter though because most people can see through the lies even more and more republicans and maga i think. Honestly we’re lucky he’s such a narcissist.

[puporing]

7 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

He "should" operate smarter though because most people can see through the lies even more and more republicans and maga i think. Honestly we’re lucky he’s such a narcissist.

yeah but clearly he just doesn't care at this point, same with Musk. They are egos run amok, so now it's up to the rest of us to push them out.

Serial killers don't care what they're doing either and keep doing it until someone stops them, by force.

Edited February 26 by puporing

[Nemra]

5 hours ago, SwiftQuill said:

This is a perfect description of the likes of Pakman and Destiny and their woke ilk.

Again, they ain't woke.

Left-wing contains wokism, not the opposite.

Edited February 26 by Nemra

[SwiftQuill]

8 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Again, they ain't woke.

Yes, they are. They are wokies, that's their religion. They are the worst type of woke. The type of woke that portrays himself as neutral, scientific, and "a bit left leaning". They aren't loud as other wokies. You might like them. You might agree with their positions on things. But you must admit they are wokies. To say that Pakman and Destiny aren't woke would be like me saying Matt Walsh isn't right wing.

And people have demanded evidence from me of instances of these people being woke. Which is hard to do for 2 reasons:

1- EVERYTHING they do and say, and ALL of their content is woke. We're swimming in an ocean of liquid shit, and you ask me evidence of the shit.

2- I don't have a bucket near me. If you want me to watch an entire Pakman video, listen to his propaganda, write down his argument, summarize his argument, write down my argument and present further evidence and documentation and links that he's wrong or heavily biased, I need a bucket near me to puke as I'm doing that.

[Inliytened1]

On 2/25/2025 at 2:49 AM, PurpleTree said:

So for example yesterday Macron visited Trump and they had a press conference.

At one point Macron corrected Trump about European money spent in Ukraine.

I mean is this extremely news worthy?

Not really. But since then i have seen countless channels make big news out of this. How Macron was so brave to correct Trump. Or how he embarrassed or humiliated him.

It’s quite silly.

 

Now you're getting it.  There are a lot of news sources that want to go against Trump.  So you're going to see that.   All news sources are going to be bias.  Thats just something you'll have to come to grips with. 

[Inliytened1]

On 2/25/2025 at 3:42 AM, PurpleTree said:

What are some good news sources that aren’t utter trash?

Good luck