The media is utter trash

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Maybe issues caused by immigration/ streams of refugees for example.

 

 

 

They report on every major topic and explicitly and accurately state republican talking points to debunk them.

Edited February 26 by Elliott

[PurpleTree]

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

 

 

 

They report on every major topic and explicitly and accurately state republican talking points to debunk them.

Look at how for example Sweden changed for the worse with a main part being immigration from mostly Muslim countries basically.

 

Now you can say "why should they report about Sweden”?

 

But i‘ve heard many of those commentators talk about Sweden and Scandinavia in terms of social state, health care and so on.

 

^ I didn’t really watch this video. But there are obviously countless.

 

The thing is the left can basically not really address these issues. And i understand why. But it’s biased.

[aurum]

People have totally lost balance on this issue.

You criticize media now, but you have no idea how bad media will get the more Trump gets his hands on it. It will become rampant propaganda and disinformation, more closely resembling North Korean or Russian media. And the more you subscribe to this "fake news" worldview, the more it will give permission for Trump to do exactly that.

 What we have now is an oasis of free press in comparison. Legacy media needs to be defended right now, not mindlessly trashed. 

Edited February 26 by aurum

[Elliott]

21 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Look at how for example Sweden changed for the worse with a main part being immigration from mostly Muslim countries basically.

 

Now you can say "why should they report about Sweden”?

 

But i‘ve heard many of those commentators talk about Sweden and Scandinavia in terms of social state, health care and so on.

 

^ I didn’t really watch this video. But there are obviously countless.

 

The thing is the left can basically not really address these issues. And i understand why. But it’s biased

 

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Chat gpt

"Ezra Klein, co-founder of Vox and a New York Times columnist, has written extensively on immigration and its societal impacts. In a 2015 article for Vox, he discussed Sweden's approach to immigration, stating:

> "Sweden has taken in more refugees per capita than any other European country, and it has done so with a remarkable degree of public support."

Klein highlighted Sweden's commitment to humanitarian principles and the challenges it faces in integrating a large number of refugees, particularly from Muslim-majority countries. He noted that while Sweden's model is often praised for its generosity, it also faces significant challenges in terms of integration and social cohesion.

 

For a more comprehensive understanding of Klein's views on this topic, you can refer to his article titled "The Swedish immigration paradox," published on Vox in 2015. 

 

https://www.ezrakleinbooks.com/book/the-fear-of-islam-second-edition-an-introduction-to-islamophobia-in-the-west/

 

[puporing]

I follow Kyle Kulinski pretty closely https://www.youtube.com/@SecularTalk 

Recently this guy https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch

Canadian news is pretty solid imo https://www.youtube.com/@CBCNews 

BBC News https://www.youtube.com/@BBCNews

And then I just try to follow the key leaders/decision-makers themselves and what they are up to such as Trudeau & Zelensky (those are what I consider key leaders now because of what is happening with Trump/Musk).

I still dabble in the American news channels like MSNBC.

Financial Times was good when I had it, but it's pretty expensive to subscribe to.

These kind of gatherings can tell you a lot about what is happening too:

 

Edited February 26 by puporing

[Ulax]

This is why we trust in Vlad Vexler

[Leo Gura]

You don't need to trust anyone. Listen to hundreds of diverse perspectives as long as they are not bad faith grifters and propagandists, then generate your own conclusions.

Don't bother searching for some perfectly unbiased source. The biases will cancel out as you consume hundreds of diverse perspectives.

Just avoid wasting time listening to clearly ideological and closedminded people.

It's also good to rotate to new sources every 3-6 months, so you don't get stuck hearing the same old view ad nuaseum. After 6 months of listening to a source you will know everything he has to say on every issue.

Edited February 26 by Leo Gura

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura where are you getting your news from?

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Something Funny said:

@Leo Gura where are you getting your news from?

He's getting it from Fox News, The Quartering, Tim Pool.

[PurpleTree]

8 hours ago, Elliott said:

Chat gpt

"Ezra Klein, co-founder of Vox and a New York Times columnist, has written extensively on immigration and its societal impacts. In a 2015 article for Vox, he discussed Sweden's approach to immigration, stating:

> "Sweden has taken in more refugees per capita than any other European country, and it has done so with a remarkable degree of public support."

Klein highlighted Sweden's commitment to humanitarian principles and the challenges it faces in integrating a large number of refugees, particularly from Muslim-majority countries. He noted that while Sweden's model is often praised for its generosity, it also faces significant challenges in terms of integration and social cohesion.

 

For a more comprehensive understanding of Klein's views on this topic, you can refer to his article titled "The Swedish immigration paradox," published on Vox in 2015. 

 

https://www.ezrakleinbooks.com/book/the-fear-of-islam-second-edition-an-introduction-to-islamophobia-in-the-west/

 

I‘ve never followed Ezra Klein to be honest.

But that was 2015 10 years ago. Now the situation in Sweden is a lot worse.

Some other western European countries face some similar problems. Never on that scale of Sweden though. And it’s a big or the main reason for parties like AFD imo. 

[PurpleTree]

17 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

He's getting it from Fox News, The Quartering, Tim Pool.

Alex Jones is quite stable and investigative.

[SwiftQuill]

12 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Do you think it’s fine when journalists lose their jobs for being Israel/Trump critical though?

I don't know man. I personally think journalists should be allowed to express their opinions on things. But I understand the risk of being too tolerant to the point you get someone on tv justifying genocide or defending a tyrant like Putin. I wouldn't know how to draw that line.

@Leo Gura

@The Crocodile

The fact you guys keep insisting on framing everything in terms of left vs right, and that you use "but the right does it worse!" as an excuse to dismiss any criticism directed at the left, that is a huge bias. That is prevalent in this forum. I don't see why you even bother debating politics if you are unwilling to concede on problems in the left.

"Reality is left wing!" Preposterous.

Tsk. I can't believe I've been baited into this thread. My intention was just to drop that meme in the beginning and leave.

[The Crocodile]

Alex Jones and me

Tell each other fairy tales

Edited February 26 by The Crocodile

[PurpleTree]

 

[Scholar]

On 25/02/2025 at 10:42 AM, PurpleTree said:

What are some good news sources that aren’t utter trash?

THe news sources are trash because the humans that watch news are trash, that's literally 99% of the problem.

[The Crocodile]

@SwiftQuill 

 

[SwiftQuill]

@PurpleTree

I get my news from Portuguese media. RTP, Sic, CNN Portugal.

I find them a bit biased to the left. Every once in a while they do the "white cop kills black man" thing. But I'd say they are legit for the most part. I'm glad it's not like in the US where they do race baiting and pull retarded cards like that all the time. The news here are for the most part watchable and accurate. And there's no right wing equivalent to Fox News here.

Which is why whenever I watch American CNN or MSNBC it's so obvious to me those media are ridiculously biased to the left. Downright woke propaganda.

[Elliott]

If there was a right wing news source that didn't outright lie all the time, I'd watch it, haven't found a one. There are plenty of left wing news sources that outright lie too, never as bad as right wing, but there are many left wing sources that don't lie.

Edited February 26 by Elliott

[Average Actualizer]

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

If there was a right wing news source that didn't outright lie all the time, I'd watch it, haven't found a one. There are plenty of left wing news sources that outright lie too, never as bad as right wing, but there are many left wing sources that don't lie.

I recommended Nick Fuentes

(https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes/livestreams ) earlier in the thread and my post got deleted and i got a notice for "spreading right wing propaganda" while at the same time there are people unironically recommending the robotic zionist David Pakman, that guy is soulless, he has quite literally never uttered a single authentic sentence in his life.

I was watching his election stream and the guy was blueballing his audience hard throughout it's entirety, it was a disgusting watch, and all his posts are literal peak propaganda, he doesn't post serious content.

On the other hand with Nick Fuentes people like the mod that deleted my post don't even watch him and have never seen a week of his show in his entire life and then blindly go and ban me because he's seen MSNBC and Kyle Kulinski call him Nazi from time to time. 

With someone like Nick Fuentes you don't have to agree with anything he says but he isn't propaganda, i watch multiple news sources from the far left to the far right and Nick is for me the best when it comes to presenting the news and giving his views on it in an authentic, non-propagandist way, and no he is not a Nazi, he is a Christian Nationalist and focuses on anti-immigration and anti-zionism, one of the reasons why he didn't vote for Trump and told his fanbase not to was because Trump is owned by the zionists in this term and isn't hard on immigration, worse than Biden and Obama number wise.

Destiny is a good example of a left wing news source, he doesn't make propaganda content like Pakman, i'll rather take someone like Destiny that makes a comment about that firefighter than someone like Pakman who is completely inauthentic.

And to the mod that deleted my post feel free to delete my post again, be that closeminded, judge someone based on an MSNBC article and let people unironically recommend the propaganda machine David Zionist Pakman without deleting their post, this forum is cooked.

Edited February 26 by Average Actualizer

[SwiftQuill]

24 minutes ago, Average Actualizer said:

I recommended Nick Fuentes

(https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes/livestreams ) earlier in the thread and my post got deleted and i got a notice for "spreading right wing propaganda" while at the same time there are people unironically recommending the robotic zionist David Pakman, that guy is soulless, he has quite literally never uttered a single authentic sentence in his life.

I was watching his election stream and the guy was blueballing his audience hard throughout it's entirety, it was a disgusting watch, and all his posts are literal peak propaganda, he doesn't post serious content.

On the other hand with Nick Fuentes people like the mod that deleted my post don't even watch him and have never seen a week of his show in his entire life and then blindly go and ban me because he's seen MSNBC and Kyle Kulinski call him Nazi from time to time. 

With someone like Nick Fuentes you don't have to agree with anything he says but he isn't propaganda, i watch multiple news sources from the far left to the far right and Nick is for me the best when it comes to presenting the news and giving his views on it in an authentic, non-propagandist way, and no he is not a Nazi, he is a Christian Nationalist and focuses on anti-immigration and anti-zionism, one of the reasons why he didn't vote for Trump and told his fanbase not to was because Trump is owned by the zionists in this term and isn't hard on immigration, worse than Biden and Obama number wise.

Destiny is a good example of a left wing news source, he doesn't make propaganda content like Pakman, i'll rather take someone like Destiny that makes a comment about that firefighter than someone like Pakman who is completely inauthentic.

And to the mod that deleted my post feel free to delete my post again, be that closeminded, judge someone based on an MSNBC article and let people unironically recommend the propaganda machine David Zionist Pakman without deleting their post, this forum is cooked.

You can't be serious.

Nick Fuentes, the incel Nazi holocaust deniar? And when I use these terms, I'm serious. I don't overuse these terms as wokies like to do.

Within the same post, you defend both Destiny the woke cuck, and Nick Fuentes the neonazi? It truly shocks me.

And no I don't call him a Nazi because everyone calls him a nazi. I've seen actual videos from him saying he agrees with Hitler and that it's "ok" to wear a Hitler t-shirt. And a video of him doing gymnastics denying the holocaust.