Experiencing Literally Everything

[stephenkettley]

Based on the implications of being awareness (God) experiencing itself through infinity, does this mean one day as pure awareness, I will have the experience of being a red triangle riding a camel through a tunnel of green light? I am purposefully picking something absolutely random to drive the point home. Make sense? Anyone got any feedback on this question?

Furthermore does this mean I will experience every scene from every movie that I've seen, exactly as it happened?

[Leo Gura]

You don't need to live through every possibility.

But when you realize Infinity, it contains whatever you can imagine. Just in pure abstraction. Like, you don't need to see every number written out on paper when you grasp that numbers are infinite.

You are like a child asking if infinity means that every number is written down somewhere in God's diary.

It doesn't need to be because Infinity is abstract.

Edited February 24 by Leo Gura

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura So god is not so autistic and must live through every random possibility to infinity? He just live through possibilitys which are somehow interesting like my human life right now?

[Xonas Pitfall]

@OBEler Nope, God is Everything! 

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need to live through every possibility.

But when you realize Infinity, it contains whatever you can imagine. Just in pure abstraction. Like, you don't need to see every number written out on paper when you grasp that numbers are infinite.

You are like a child asking if infinity means that every number is written down somewhere in God's diary.

It doesn't need to be because Infinity is abstract.

Sri Aurobindo: Plato had very mathematical ideas about these things. If he meant by it the creative conception then there are several things in it. First of all, it is not a mental idea but what I call the Real-Idea: that is, Idea with a Reality and a Power. Now, corresponding to every form there is what may be called the archetype, the type-form, and it already exists in the Real-Idea before it exists in matter. Everything exists first in consciousness and then in matter.

Disciple: Could that be the Mahat-Brahma of which the Gita speaks?

Sri Aurobindo: I do not know if Plato had some dim intimation of the Supramental; but as his mind was mathematical he cast it into rigid rational and mental forms. That was the Greek mind.

Disciple: The Buddhists have an idea that there are Gods without form — there are Rupa Devas and Arupa Devas. What could that mean?

Sri Aurobindo: I do not know Buddhist mythology. But what do you mean by Arupa Loka?

Disciple: A plane of consciousness where the Gods have no forms, perhaps. Or they have forms which are so different from man’s, that for man they are no forms at all.

Sri Aurobindo: What do you mean by the Gods having no forms?

Disciple: On the plane of the Gods there are no forms, perhaps.

Sri Aurobindo: What do you mean? The origin of all the forms is there. Even if you call it Arupa Loka still there must be some form. The Gods there must be distinguishing themselves from one another and that means they must have forms. If you say they have no ‘human’ form it is understandable. All forms need not be human.

Disciple: They say that all abstractions belong to the Arupa Loka. For instance, the idea of beauty.

Sri Aurobindo: Beauty is not an abstraction. It is a power of the Supreme on the plane above the Mind. On the mental plane you have abstractions. It is the mind’s way of representing realities of planes higher than its own, but behind these abstractions there is a reality. On the plane above the mind there are no abstractions; there are realities and powers. For instance, you form an abstract idea in the mind about the Supermind. When you get to the Supermind you find it is not an abstraction at all. It is more intensely concrete than Matter, something quite overwhelming in its concreteness. That is why I called it the Real-Idea and not an abstract idea. In that sense there is nothing more concrete than God. If we were on the pure mental plane we would find Mind quite concrete and real. But as we are on the physical plane we always think that mind is abstract.

Before the Supermind Matter dwindles into a shadow!

Disciple: What is that concreteness like?

Sri Aurobindo: The sense of solidity, mass. That is perhaps what the Veda meant when it said, “Agni is wider of light, and concrete of body.” You can say that the Supermind is harder than diamond and yet more fluid than gas.

[LostSoul]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need to live through every possibility.

But when you realize Infinity, it contains whatever you can imagine. Just in pure abstraction. Like, you don't need to see every number written out on paper when you grasp that numbers are infinite.

You are like a child asking if infinity means that every number is written down somewhere in God's diary.

It doesn't need to be because Infinity is abstract.

Very very interesting. But intrinsically It has to happen. It is Infinity. For eveeeeer. I can't imagine otherwise. But i'm not enlightened so I leave that to you.

[Leo Gura]

@LostSoul Enlightenment is not going to answer that for you.

Edited February 24 by Leo Gura

[tuku747]

Given infinite time to dream, sure.

You will probably dream up some pretty goofy shit.

In every case you will eventually remember that you are dreaming, then you can clarify your desires, and begin your ascent into the lucid dream once more. So you exploration of the infinite dream is punctuated by periods of lucidity and remembering your nature as The Creator.

Edited February 24 by tuku747

[Rafael Thundercat]

My God, everytime I dare to come to this section to see if the conversation changed I get you guys talking about Infinity. Reality is Infinite..good.Period. please Get a life. 

Edited February 24 by Rafael Thundercat

[cetus]

8 hours ago, stephenkettley said:

 I will have the experience of being a red triangle riding a camel through a tunnel of green light?

 Pure awareness is the potential for all things regardless of whether they are manifest or not. At that level of awareness, a red triangle riding a camel through a green tunnel is just as valid as a blue sky with puffy white clouds on a sunny day.

Edited February 25 by cetus

[OBEler]

17 minutes ago, cetus said:

 Pure awareness is the potential for all things regardless of whether they are manifest or not. At that level of awareness, a red triangle riding a camel through a green tunnel is just as valid as a blue sky with puffy white clouds on a sunny day.

And will there be every random thing be fully manifested and experienced?

[cetus]

27 minutes ago, OBEler said:

And will there be every random thing be fully manifested and experienced?

 I don't know.  Time and space would have to be infinite. Is it?

* It really doesn't matter. It's still just as valid.

Edited February 25 by cetus

[Hojo]

@OBEler You will want too, to understand what infinity means means you will make that decision. You can say no now but you will, you have to in that way. You wont be you forever you can reach levels of demention no one can help you from, not can but will cause its infinite. Not wanting to do something is running from it, to God.

Edited February 25 by Hojo

[stephenkettley]

@Leo Gura In terms of God living through itself so that it can understand its own entirety and love itself fully (this was alluded to in "The Radical Implications of Oneness), will God eventually experience EVERY possible version of what can be imagined in its awareness? Even though it doesn't have to.

[Sugarcoat]

What is awareness? It sounds like duality to me. Awareness being aware of self and being aware of something. The self possesses awareness of itself and other. I think that’s the conventional use of the word.

Ive been wondering this too. Such a thought can be scary when it feels like you’re stuck in eternity experiencing itself over and over. But “experience “ is only possible in duality, when there is a self having an experience. Without the self I assume there would be nothing, not experience. So in that case you’re not trapped in infinity, because who would be? But when there’s a sense of self it’s like you’re trapped in experience, in consciousness

Edited February 25 by Sugarcoat

[Yimpa]

On 2/24/2025 at 0:33 PM, Leo Gura said:

every number is written down somewhere in God's diary.

Damn God, I see you. Clearly the best PUA in town